S/PV.1215 Security Council
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In accordance with the previous decision of this Council, 1 now propose to invite the representative of Cuba to take a place at the Council table.
At the invitation of tbe President, Mr. Alvarez Tabio (cuba) took a place at fhe Couacil table.
The Council Will now proceed with its consideration of the item relating to the Dominican Republic.
3. The first name of my list of speakers ts that of the representative of Jordan. but 1 first cal1 on the Secretary-General who bas a statement to make.
4. The SECRBTARY-GENERAL: At 4.24 p.m., New York tirne, 1 received on the Telex a message from W representative, Mr. Mayobre, tbat had been dispatch‘ed from Santa Domingo at 3.24 p.m.. local time. Tbat message reads as fpllows:
“Accompanied by General Rlkhye and Colonel
C*VtiCaIIti”--COlOne1 Cavalcanti is General Rikhye’s ass.istant-“1 bave completed the t0<rr of the no-man’s land between the lmbert and Caamaüo forces. While there bave heen a few scattered shots fired by bath sides, the cease-fire is ful~y effective. The Red Cross succeeded in starting their work early this morning near the fighting zone and are fidly engaged in their humanitarian task. I have been advised by the medical staff of
5. 1 shall keep the Security Council informed of fur.. ther developments immediately on receipt of further reports from my representative.
6. Mr. RIFA’I (Jordan): 1 should like to make some observations on the draft resolutions before the Council.
7. The position which my delegation is trying to take in this debate, and which it has tried to take in similar cases with respect to draft resolutions, is determined hy two basic considerations: first, the Principles involved in the situation and reflected in the draft resolutions; and. second, the objectives whlch such draft resolutions attempt to acbieve in support of those principles.
8. In my own region, mypeople InPalestinehave been suffering for seventeen long years because of their devotion to the basic principles involved in tbeir national problem. For those principles they bave sacrificed heavily and they Will continue to sacrifice. WBat we honour for ourselves, we honour for a11 other nations.
9. The Council now has hefore it two draft resolutions. The first, from the point of view of priority, is the text reintroduced hy the representative of Uruguay [S/6346/Rev.l]% 1 bave slready expressed my delegation’s support for that text. We believe that the changes made in the draft resolution bave brough$,it Gloser to the present requirements in the situation.
10. The second draft resolution is the one introduc& by the representative of the United States [S/13373]2r. That draft resolution involves the Security Council’s~“major responsibilities in the activities of ths regional organisation, and reqdests the representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations to co-ordlnate ths responsibjlitles assigned to him by the Security Council with the tasks of the Secretary General of the Organization of American States, in the light of the resolution adopted by OAS on 2.0 May 1965. That amounts to placing the regional organisation in the position of PL superior body.
11. 1 need net go into the details of the effect of mach a propo8al on the future fusctionfng of the United Nations wlth regard to any situation that might arise in any other region where a regional organisation exlsts. 1 leave that point to the judgement of Member States, which are aware of their obllgafions under the United Nations Charter and thelr obligations to thefr regional agencies.
12. 1 raise another important question in this regard: Are we. in the world of today, trying to establish a strong international system for world peace and order. or are we tendlng to substitute for it a regiOna1
13. The strong criticisms which bave been directed at the Securlty Council are unjustified, especially at a time when the members of this COunCil are Unceasingly endeavouring. day and night, t0 help preserve peace and security in the Dominioan Republic.
14. I hope, therefore. that the members of the Security Council Will continue. on behalf of all States Members of the world Organisation, to search for adequate measures to restore normal COnditiCnS in the Dominican Republic.
There are no other names on the list of speakers for tbis afternoon’s meeting. If no one wishes to speak at this stage, the Council must think in terms of when it should meet agaln.
If the other members of the Council agree, 1 would suggest that the Council should meet again tomorrow afternoon. 1 make that suggestion for two reasons. In the first place, it is to behoped thatbythen we shall bave more information about the progress that may have been made towards a permanent cease-fire or a ccntmuation of the present cesse-fire. In the second place, 1 hope that by then it will have been possible to work out the text of a draft resolution, in line with what 1 suggested this morning. whiohcould satisfyanumber of members of the Conncil.
It is net my alm and it is far from belng my intention to join issue witb the representative of the Netherlands over the proposa1 he lias just made. However, 1 intendecl to ask to speak as soon as you bad summed up tbe position, Mr. Président, to say that in my delegation’s view it would be appropriate, in view of the fact tbat there aere no more names on the list of speakers for the debate, to vote on the draft resolution submitted by my delegation.
18. The original draft resolution [S/6346]3/ was submitted many days ago and the revised version introduced today was explained in some detail at this morningts meeting. My delegation does not consider tbat more time is needed to understand the scope and meaning of tbis revised version a&, if the rules of procedure permit me to do SO, 1 wonld request that the Council proceed to the vote on our draft.
1 have listened with great interest to the sugge&ion by my coileague, the representative of the Nethe% lands. 1 am sorry to tel1 him tbat 1 do not agree with him. because 1 think that in any case to fix our next meeting for tomorrow-when we are still by no means certain tbat the twenty-four heur truce. which seems now to bave corne into force, Will be extended-is a very risky step for the Counoil to take. I think that the Council should bave its say on this point this evening.
If no other member of the Council wishes to speak now, I should like to make some remarks as the representative of MALAYSIA.
22. The revised draft resolution which was suhmitted this morning contains, in OUI judgement, substantive changes. 1 understoodfromthe representative of Uruguay that those changes were necessary because we bave to keep pace with the development of events. Undoubtedly events bave moved fùrther than we had contemplated earlier.
23. At the same time, 1 remember-as 1 am sure other representatives who took part with me in discussions with the representative of Uruguay will remember-that at that time we were trying to obtain a resolution that would bridge the gap between the draft resolution introduced by the representative of the Soviet Union [S/6328]q and theoriginalUruguayan draft resolution [S/6346]. At that time those were the only draft resolutions before the Council.
24. Today another draft resolution [S/6373] bas been introduced by the representative of the United States.
25. 1 feel that we bave now moved into a sphere which is concerned not SO much wltb the conflict between, as it is with the comparative and competitive claims of, the jurisdicC%n of the Organisation of American States and the United Nations. In that situation, it might be useful if we could be given some more time to study the new draft. If there is a willingness to do this, we could try-to use a local phraseto marry the revised Uruguayan draft resolution to the United States draft resolution and produce a compromise which might be acceptable to a greater number of members of the Security Council.
26. The representative of Uruguay will also remember that at one time it appeared possible to modify or withdraw some of the preambular paragraphs of his draft resolution, but at a later stage, because of the developments at that time, it became necessary to maintain the original draft.
27. It should still be possible to corne to a larger measure of agreement if we could bave more time to discuss the Uruguayan draft resolution than the twenty minutes or SO suggested by the representative of France.
26. Therefore, bearing in xind a11 the timc tbat our principal objective is to see peace and security prevail, and not merely occasionally, inthe Dominican
29. Bearlng all those oonsideratlons in mlnd, 1 would ask the representativeof Uruguay whether, as a gesture of indulgence tc the members of the Council who bave been in consultation with him over the past three weeks, he wouid agree tc defer a decision on his draft resülution untiI tomorrow afternccn. By that time we shculd be able-in consultation with hlm, of course-t0 arrive at some sort of compromise that might be more acceptable to a greater number of Council members.
30. MI-. RIFA’I (Jordan): Mr. President, the points which you made inyour statement as the representative of Malaysia bave validity and weight. 1 agree that the two draft resolutions before the Council-the one submitted by the representative of Uruguay and and one submitted by the representative of the Unlted States-are substantive in character.
31. However, thcre is an immediate situation to be faced. The twenty-four-heur truce which started at noon tcday and which, accordlng tc thepresentofficial information we bave, will expire by noon tomorrow, Will net, 1 am afraid, be followed immedlately, as 3 should be, by a cesse-fire. We gathar, on the contary, from informationthatwehaveandfromthe statements which are being made by one faction in the Dcminican Republic, that a new drive, a new offensive, might follow the expiration of the present brief truce.
32. Hence, we must give thorough consideration to the adoption of an interim resolution that would e&ure the continua.tion of the cessation of armedhostilities in the Dominican Republic. 1 trust that we cari adopt such a resolution. That should net wait until tomorrow afternoon: it must be done today in order tc continue our efforts.
33. In that respect 1 see the validityofthe suggestion made by the representative of France that this meeting should be suspended for a short time for the purpose
Of draftlng an interim text that could be adopted unanimously by the Council with the objective of securing au effective cesse fire.
34. Lord CARADON (United Kingdom): 1 support the suggestion whlch was made by the representative of France and has now been seconded by the representative of Jordan. It may well be that before comlug to a conclusion on the substantivedraft resolu+ions before the Council we may wish to take more time, as the President bas suggested as representative ol Malaysia. But 1 believe that it would be useful ij we could bave the proposed short suspension now il order tc deal with the immediate question,
35. ldr. VELAZQUEZ (Uruguay) (translated fro= Spanish): Mr. President, allow me tc say that I an
36. 1 ehould simply Hke to add sow that 1 did sot fully understaad what you, Sir, speikiug uot as the Presideut but as therepreseutativeofMalaysia. meaut when you suggested that the Uruguayas draft resolution 1aY at one extreme sud that the gap would bave to be bridged. If 1 understood correctly, that was thephrase you used.
37. 1 think that it is precisely the Uruguaysu draft reselution chat will bridge the gap.
1 thank the represeutative of Uruguay for bis very useful clarification.
39. The Presideat, having listened to the statements of the representatives of the Netherlamls audMalaysia, must corne to the conclusion that the members of the Security Council arû sot iufavour of au adjournment until tomorrow, but are in faveur of a brief suspension of this meeting.
40. If that is the general wish, we may still hope, during the brief suspension, to reach au agreement to meet again tomorrow. Such an agreement might be possible: that is what happened yesterday.
The meeting wss suspended at 5.10 p.m. sod resumed at 7.10 p.m.
1 apologise that the suspension of +he meeting held for purposes of cossultatious was precisely three times longer thsn we had plauned. It is uufortunate that the consultations bave net led to aay immediate results, but, of course, they will be maintaiued.
1 shall be very brief. My delegationproposesformzdly that at this stage of the debate the Council proceed to the vote ou the two draft resolutions before it, in the order in which they were submitted, that is to say first the text submitted by the representative of Uruguay, asd then the text submitted by me representative of the United States. ShouldtheCouucil agree to this suggestion, 1 would then like to bave au opporhmity to explain my vote ou these two texts.
1 must point out to the representative of France that up to this moment the ouly draft resolution that has been asked to be put to the vote is that of the representative of Uruguay. Ths representative of the United States has not asked that the draft resolution, which he introducedthis morsing, be put to the vote today. However, if it is his desire that it be put to the vote after the Uruguayan draft resolution is put to the vote, asd if it is the general wish of the Council, then, of course, the Presideut Will put it to the vote.
44. Lord CABADON (United Kisgdom): 1 spesk with great respect to the representative of France, who bas had much longer experiencp in the Security Council thsu 1 bave had. Nevertheless, i would like to express a different view, if 1 may.
While 1 hesitate to express any disagreement wltb the representative of France, 1 must echo what the representative of the United Kingdom has just said. Witb respect to tbe draft resolution of the United States, it was presented only tbis morning. 1 would prefer that it cet be voted on at this time and that we bave more opportunity to consider it. 1 hope very much that it Will serve as the basis, at least, of a further draft rosolution that we migbt adopt at some subsequent time. With the acquicscsnce, 1 trust, of the representative of France, 1 would ask that the draft resolution presented by tbe United States net be voted upon at this time.
There is one document, at least, that the Security Counci! is entitled to consider, namsly, the draft resolution submitted by the representative of Uruguay.
48. We bave heard various arguments on this subject, but we should like to know the opinion of the sponsor of that draft resolution himself. Does he feel that bis draft resolution should be put to the vote now, or does he bave any other views? We should like to know wh.at attitude the representative of Uruguay takes on this question.
1 thank the representative of the Soviet Union for two reasons: first, for having made bis intervention and, secondly, forhavingputtbe question that X intended to put to the representative of Uruguay.
During this afternoon’s meeting 1 expressed the wish that the draft resolution submitted by my delegation should be put to the vote.
51. 1 bave listened with the greatest interest to the comments by the United Kingdom representative and bave given them the attention which tbey deserve; in the light of the reasons adduced by him, 1 should simply like to reiterate my wish that the draft resolution be put to the vote.
1 give the floor to tbe representative of the United Kingdom.
53. Lord CARADON (United Kingdom): AmItounderstand tbat the representative of the Ivory Coast wishes to speak? If SO, 1 should be very glad to give way to him.
1 give the floor to the representative of the Iwry Coast, and 1 hope he will net return the compliment to the United Kingdom representative.
56. Lord CARADCN (United Kingdom): 1 apologize for misunderstanding the intention of the representative of the Ivory Coast. 1 did net realize that he was waiting for bis opportunity to explain his vote in advance. 1 wished, however, topursuethematterwhich we were discussing previously. 1 would seek your guidance, if 1 may, Mr. President, on theaction which should be taken. 1 myself feel strongly-and 1 have very much in mind the suggestion put to us by the representative of the Netherlands this morning-that we sbould seek to find a common basis on which we cari a11 agree. 1 feel that it would be well to allow ourselves more time to study the two draft resolutions before us and, if possible, to agree on a draft resolution wbich could command general support. I would ask your raliug and judgement, Mr. President, on whether the question of whether we shouldvote tonight could be put to the vote.
1 do not wish to add anything to what 1 have said but simply to clarify my thoughts in case they were net expressed in terms and formulas used in this Council. 1 said that my delegation’s wlsh was tllat a vote should be taken; 1 did net say that 1 asked for a vote. Ben 1 said that my delegation’s wish was that a vote should be taken, my intention was to make an appeai to tbe United Kingdom represefitative to agree to that .wlsh being met. After listenlng to the United Kingùom representative, 1 did not formally ask for a vote. As 1 said this afternoon, 1 shall be happy to accept whatever the Council decides.
1 understand the statement of the representative of Uruguay to mean that, while he desires that a vote be taken, he is net asking for it. However, he has net said whether he is wllling t0 ~>mply with the desires of the United Kingdom representative or wishes the question to be put to the vote. 1 should be very happy to bave a c2&ficatien’ of that. 1 give the floor tn the representative of Uruguay.
1 had not asked for the floor, Mr. President.
1 asked a very courteous question of the representative of Uruguay and 1 thought he would accord me the equal courtesy of @ving me a reply. That is why 1 gave him the floor.
I am ready to return to you a11 tbs courtesies due to you, Mr. President; but could you repeat the question for me, because 1 was unable to under-
In View Of the specifio request of the United Kingdom representative, who suggested tbat there might be a vote on the question of whether we should vote upon it tonight or not, 1 thought that the representative of Uruguay would either say he would like to bave his draft voted on or express some other desire.
1 am net going to insist on the draft resolution submitted by my delegation being put to the vote at this time, inviewoftheUnited Kingdom representative’s request.
1 am sure the representative of the United Kingdom would want to thank the representative of Uruguay.
65. Lord CARAWN (UnitedKingdom):Mr. President, 1 thiuk 1 had already indicated my anxiety to express my gratitude before you led me to do SO.
66. 1 would wish to say to the representative of Uruguay that I understand hls desire that ‘hls draft resolution should be put to the vote early: 1 greatly respect that desire. 1 especially thank hlm, however, for his readiness to postpone the vote on his draft resolution, and may 1 also add that it was in respect for his draft resoluti;x and in anxiety to study it more fully and more carefully that 1 put forward my suggestion.
67. 1 thereforeverywarmlywelcometheco-operation which the representatim of Uruguay has been good enough to show.
The only matter remaining to be completed at this meeting was to bave thls draft resolution voted upon. As the representative of Uruguay has agreed, in response to the request of the representative of the United Kingdom, net to insist on a vote today, the next order of business
would be to adiourn this meeting. IIowever, 1 should
like to ascertain the opinion of the representative of the Ivory Coast.
69. Mr. USHER (Ivory Coast) (translated from
French): 1 bave no intention of making a speech, because we bave been making speeches for twenty days and 1 think we have now reached the stage of taking a decision.
70. The representative of Uruguay said that he did net insist on his draft resolution being put to the vote thls evening, but you are ready to adjourn the meeting, Mr. President, without telling us whenthe draft resolution Will be wted on. That being SO, 1 wonder if 1 am exceeding my rights if 1 try to elicit from the President when he thinks these various
72. hasmuch as 1 do net bar any suggestionsusually, objections rather tban suggestions areheard; 1 make the suggestions sud invite the objections- 1 would suggest that we meet agaiuonMonday morniug.
73. There was a suggestion made a little while ago tbat we meet tomorrow afteruoon, in the expectation of which several consultations took place. These cousultations, however, did net lead to any successful result. and we are informed, and are aware, that the Security Council’s representative on tbe spot is making every effort to keep the situation stable and to keep the Secretary-General informed. We are also told that there is every indication of the suspension of hostilities beiug extended beyond noon tomorrow, if only for the reason that the health authorities do not consider it possible to complete all the necessary work withiu twenty-four Fours. If in the meantime, however, the Secretary-General should receive any information of an urgent nature which suggests to bim-and which, after consultation with me, suggests to me-that the Security Council should be called into urgent session at any time, either tomorrow or the day after, the Security Council will be convened at once. Subject to tbat reservation, my suggestion is that we mi& meet on hionday morning.
74. Lord CARADON (UnitedKingdom): 1 wouldmerely like to say tbat, after the courtesy shown by the representative of Uruguay, 1 would certainly be ready to Support any proposai for any meeting at any time after tonight to deal with his draft resolution and otber matters.
75. On the other hand, 1 think it is tme that many of us are still anxious to find. if we cari, a broadly based draft resolution on which there cari be general ement; aad K think our time would be well occupied in searching for that goal which we bave had in mind for some time. 1 would not have been happy about au adjournment to Monday. if it had net been for your last statement, Mr. President, that we mightbecalled into session urgently at any time between now and Monday .
76. On that basis, however, and witbthatunderstandin& may 1 net question what you have proposed-or
78. For that reason, 1 am making a forma1 proposai that we meet tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
The representative of France bas made a proposa1 that the Council meet tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. If that is the general desire of a11 the members, we shall meet at that time.
We havelistened attentively to the exchange of courtesies and mutual compliments between various members of tbe Security Council on the subject of whether tbe draft resolution submitted by Uruguay should be put to the vote or whether a decision on the matter should be postponed to a later date.
81. The underlying theme of this discussion, it seems to me. is the idea of a marriage which you, Mr. President, suggested in your remarks earlier in this meeting.
82. Obviously, there are many who are attracted by this intriguing idea of a marriage of convenience; but as we a11 know. such arranwments cari drae out indefinitely, especially as it appears that we bave manv bridearooms but little choice of brides. Naturally, wehave no objections to letting the matchmakers try to arrange this wedding. but we for our part should like to point out that a honeymoon would not well become the age and responsibilities of the members of the Security Council. We therefore find the sober considerations which bave just been voiced by the representative of France preferable.
83. We hope in fact that the Security Council wlll not lose its sense of urgency or of the emerkency nature of the events which are developing in the Dominican Republic. That is why we believe that the Security Cou&l should keep the situation in that country uncler the strictest and most watchful surveillance, bearing in mind that tbe interventionists who have occupied the country-the United States aggressors-have not tbe slightest intention of leaving
I simply want to say that my delegation also supports the proposai just made by the representative of France that the Security Council should Id its next meeting at 10 a.m. tomorrow.
If there are no other pros&, the Council Will adjeurn now and meet again tom~rmw mornbg at 10 o’clocl~.
The meeting rose af 7.45p.m.
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