S/PV.18 Security Council

Wednesday, Feb. 13, 1946 — Session None, Meeting 18 — UN Document ↗ OCR ✓ 17 unattributed speechs
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The President unattributed #130608
The suggestion has been made that the Council should now adjourn it'l proceedings so that the text of thé amendment proposed by thexepresentative of Egypt can be circulated and Studied. 1 trust that it ",ill be realized that as yet, as President, 1 have not indicated the ,gdmiSsibility of the amendment or whether it can be regarded as an amendment. 1 shall require to study that point dosely and shall make my announcement upon it at the next meeting. 1 will certainly ask for the Council's advice upon that situation. In regard to the adjournment, is it the wish of the Council that at this stage it should adjourn its proceedings? As there are no objections, that is agreed. The time that is suggested for the meeting of the Council tomorrow is between the hours of 2.30 and 5.30 p.m. Mr. VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): Such an interval between. meetings is too short. We have a great deal of other work to do in the Commissions and in the General Assembly, and we shall not be able to study this matter carefully if our attention is divided. 1 thinka matter of three or four hours is involved, and that does not mean that the meeting will be put off for long. 1 would suggest that we meet in the evening. The PR:ESIDENT: It has been suggested to me that nine 0'clock tomorrow night would be a convenient mne. Thé·hours that 1 have mentioned do not seem to be mutually convenient. If nine o'dock tomor!ow night is suitable to all members,then '1. shall take.that asagreed.. The COul.lcil stands adjourned. M. socialistes intervalle entre . avons et à pas si notre s'agit derait propose Le suggéré que l'ouverture demain, I~es agréer àce heures, d'accord. .heures, demain soir. Th~ meeting rose at 1.10 p.m. EIGHTEENTH' MEETING Tenue le Président:M. Présents: vants: Mexique, bliques Etats-Unis -01tWednesday~13 February 1946, at 9p.m. President:Mr. N. J. O. MAKIN (Australia). Present: The representativesof the following' countries: Australia, Brazil, .China,Egypt, . France,Mexico, Netherlancls, Poland, Union of ~oviet. Socialist .Republics, United Kingdom, Umted· States of AmeriCa. 5. Report by the Chairman of the Committee of Experts on the alterations made by Committee in the provisional rules of pro- cedure of the Security Council (document S/6)." 69. Adoption of the agenda . The agenda was adopted. 70. Letter from the Greek Foreign Ministèr to the President of the Security Coun. . cil6
Held atChurch House, Westminster, London
The President unattributed #130611
1 have here a letteil from the Greèk Foreign Minister addressed to me President of the Security Council and dealing with the question of the admission of Albania. to the United Nations. This will be required be .a part of the papers. dealing with this par-. ticular matter.· 1 would ask whether it is ~ish of the Council. that this letter be placed with other communications and form part .the file dealing with this particular matter the admission of Albania to the United Nations. Is it the wishof the Council to receive letter? Mr..VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Spcialist Republks) (translated trom Russian): r t4ink that this letter addressed by the Greek Foreign .Minister to the Security Council concerning admission of Albania to the United Nations shocldbe regarded as a 'private documentl3.nd '1îotmmy wayasan·official declaration' orthe Greek Government. Greece is no more interested in·tllequestion of. Albania than any other State oMember of the United Nations. The lettcr not, .therefore, an official document. It can· be transmitted tothe Secretariat like oth,er letters ahd telegrams dealing. with various questions, and.m particular ~th Albania.. 1.Ibid., .Annex 5. ··lbid.,Arl~.ex 5. 'lbid.,Arlnex 9; "Ibid., Supplement No. 2, Annex 1. 'Ibid.. Supplem.entN'l).·1, Annex.5. Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom): 1t is probably quite true, ~ the Soviet representative has said, that Greece may not have more direct interest in tbis question than any other of the fifty-one Member nations, but 1 do think that she has just as n'lUch interest as, for instance, the Yugoslav delegation. As a inatter of fact, if 1 may venture onto the ground of procedure, Ishould say, or rather submit, in connexion with the admission of new Members to the Organization, that the simple provisions of the Charter are that any State that wishes to become a Member should submit its· application and at the same time shauld submit certain assurances in regard to its readiness and ability to undertake certain obligations. There is no provision, and 1 should hope there would not be, for sponsoring candidates for admission. (traduit comme tique, rectement des qu'elle yougoslave, mettez cédure, faire de nouveaux Membres la siremç présenter simultanément volonté et à sa capacité gations.TI qu'il candidats patronner. It seems to me that the Charter provides a perfectIy straightforward procedure whereby those wishing to be admitted to the United Nations can pl.).t in applications with appropriate assurances. When it comes to a question of the relative interests of Yugoslavia and Greece, 1 cannot see that there is any distinction to be made. Il cédure candidats vent assurances intérêts Grèce, , une The 'PRESIDENT: The proposaI to the Council is whether this communication, addressed to me as the President of the Security Council by the Greek .Foreign Minister,should be received as a part of the documents dealing with the question of the admission of Albania to membership of the United Natiolls.ls there any objection? As the representativ~ of the Soviet Union has objected, it will be. essentiaI for a motion of the Council to be moved if it is the wish of the Council that this document should be included in the records. .I.e proposition est adressée de gères des l'Albanie y a-t-il de tiques le Conseil·soit .que ,cette Ml'. WeIImgton Koo (China): 1 haveunderstood you to put the question whethér this letter is receivable or not, and to that question 1 answer yeso 1 mean that al1 letters addressed to the President can be received; but whether this letter should be discussed is another question, which maybe dealt with at an appropriate moment whenthe question.cornes up. So 1 suggest that a voteis not neèessary, but that yoursimple annountement .that the letter has been received might he sufficientat the present stage. M. glais): mandé cette veux' dire au Président de savoir si cette lettre peut être discutée ou non, soulève minée en n'y pourrions déclaration a été reçue.
The President unattributed #130613
1 would'say, in answer to ~e re~resentativeof China, that we are pre~ent­ mg this matter to the .Council in exactIy the same way as the communication from Yu&,o- Le pondrai. présentons exactement Mr. RIAz (Egypt) (translated trom French): 1 support the suggestion of the representative China. As 1 see it, the matter is quite clear. have reached the fust formal stage in a matter which is vital to om future deliberations. shall have to make a decision regarding the mission of Albania, and for this purpose we shall ~ave to carry out investigations, to obtain opinions, and to ascertain whedler Albania fulfils the conditions laid down in the Charter. for mission to the United Nations. 1 cannot therefore see why the letter should not be admissible since, if we are to assume the task imposed us, we are compelled, before submitting a recommendation to the Assembly, to investigate qualifications of the candidate, in this case Albania. Mr. VVSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated trom Russian): In opinion the best procedure would be as follows: when we begin to examine the question of. admission of Albania, we shall ..need to establish general elernentary rules for the examination this question. It seems to me that we shall then have to decide what documents, what communitations, what information we. shall have examine, what communications'will have to attached to the application to permit the study of this question. 1 propose, therefore, that should Ilot try to reach a decision on this ques~ tionnow, but wait until wè have adopted general rules for examining this question.
The President unattributed #130616
May 1 suggest that we might formallY accept thiscommunicationas being ceived, and that the question of any consideration of the communication can be deferred until thematteris under consideration. If there is objection, then·that is agreed to.
That procedure was adopted.

71. Continuation of discussion'of the ter from the Head of the UkrCliniCin SSRdelegCltion 2

The President unattributed #130619
The second item on agenda is' the lettet ~rom. the Head' of Ukrainian delegation to' the President of 1 should not myse1f regard the proposaI made by the representative of Egypt as being an amendment to the proposal submitted by the representative of the Ukraine. To my mind, it bears the char-acter rather of an independent substantive proposaI. In my opinion, it must be considered as an alternative method of dealing with the matter that is before the Security Council. In substance, the Ukrainian proposal is for a commission of inquiry. The Egyptian proposal does not contemplate such an inquiry. Regarding the presence of British troops in Indonesia, it declares certain matters to be understood. Regarding the situation created by the Indonesian nationalist movement, it expresses certain desires, and, in fact, it reserves the Council's right to future action. Therefore, as 1 have said, the two proposaIs seem to be stricdy independent in character. 1 think that, if the Council agrees with the view that 1 have expressed, our next step should be to proceed at once tQ a vote on the Ukrainian proposal. There are.as yet no ruIes of procedure governing a case where the Council has two independent proposaIs before it. However, having carefully considered both proposaIs, 1 tlùnk that we showd put to the vote the proposal of the representative of the Ukraine. If, therefore, there is no objection, 1 shall follow that co~se. Do 1 take it that the course which l have suggested is acceptable to the.Council? ln the absence of objections, that course is adopted. The proposaI that 1 now place before the Council in order that it may register its decision upon it is the proposalthat has been subrnitted by the representative of the Ukraine, and which reads as follows: Mter having heard the statement made by the delegation of the Ukrainian SSR on the situation in Indonesia, which· threatens inœr- . nationaI peace and security, a situation in which British troops are being used in military action againstthe nationaI'movement of liberation, .and in which enemy Japanese troops are alsobeing used for the same purpose; Mter having heard the statements made by the Foreign Ministersof the United Kingdom and of the Netherlands, Mr. Bevin and Mr. ,van Kleffens; . '. Mter having exchanged Vi1;Vj<-::m the question l1aised; . The Security .Coul1cil decides to set hp a commission consisting ofrqxcôlentaûves of the 1 ask members of the CQuneil who support that resolution as proposed by the representa..; tive of the Ukraine kindly to indicate this by raising their hands. The PRESID~NT: As there are not seven votes, the number required under Article 27 to deter~ IIÙDe this matter in the affirmative, the resolu- tion is rejected. Mr. VYSHINSKY (Umon of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated tram Russian): 1 would like ta ask the President which paragraph Qf Article 27 he considers applicable to the case before us. In my opinion, it is paragraph 3, not paragraph 2.
Two represe1}.tatives vated.
The President unattributed #130621
1 wOuld say, in answer tQ the representative of the Soviet Union, that 1 was not aware that 1 had indiçated paragraph 2. l said· Aïticle 27. It will be seen that, under paragraph 3 of that Article, "Decisions 01 the Security Council üuall other matters shallbe made by an affirmative vote of seven· members including the concurring votes of the permanent members": 1 would indicate tt) the representa,;. tive of the Soviet Union tliat the case is therefore covered by paragraph 3 of Artièle 27 in regard to the actual vote. Mr. VYSHl~SKY (Union of Soviet 81)cialist Republics) (t'ranslated trom .Russian): Then ·you. beliew~ that· paragraph 3' àpplies in this case? The .PRESIDENT: Yes, that is quite' correct. We now have bef!l:re us the proposition thatwas putby the representative of Egypt. Mr. VAN K~LFŒNS (Netherlands): 1 should lik~ to makea staternent on this 'resolution. 1 shouldIike ta observe, fust of all, that it is divided futo' twoparts. The fust part refers ta the question placed on the agenda by the. Ukrainia,nrepresentative. For the reasons 1 have stateclrt10re than .once, l suggest that no case has been made out and that,therefore, this part .of the (".raft should be· rejected. British troops have· not deselVed.··the blame which the action. of. the .·lJkrainian···delegatkn seems ta ·imply. There is notI:ll'eat. to international pcace ~nd secunty.'l'h~':re il no,international friction which may leadto. a breach of international pe;ace. Tliere has beenanÙYitructivedebate,.which was .usefuLand alfo v~ryimportant because of its The seccnd l,art of. the Egyptian resolutiOl:i refers to a matter which is not on the agenda, that is, the situation created by the Indonesian nationalist mOllement. Since it is not on the agenda, we callnot deal with it. And if, purely for the sake of argument and without prejudice, 1 assume for the moment that this question is not oruy C ,1 the agenda but is not a domestic matter in the sense :} the Charter, then 1 can only say that, in the:-'::cumstances suell as they are, this question too does not impair international peace and security. Therefore, even in those cireumstanees, there is no case for a decision on the part of the Couneil. But, quite apart from the merits of this partieular case, there is the question of principle whieh is involved, and 1 would ask members of the Couneil to ponder this earnestly before voting on the Egyptian proposal. In the course of this long debate, 1 have stressed more than once the need for the Security Council to abide by the basic principle laid down in Article 2, paragraph 7 of the Charter, which denies to the • Organization the right to intervene in matters which are essentially within the dO,mestic jurisdiction of any State. We do not want at all to extend the notion of "domestic jurlsdiction" l;lnduly, and we know very weIl that the application of that notion has limitations, as shawn in the text of the Charter. Nevertheless, non-observance pf this principle could only lead ta a "free-for-aIl" policy of intervention in the domestic affairs of States which, in turn, would have a more unsettIing effect on the political structure of the international community. There is one point which 1 should like to add. 1 can very weIl understand that this Council is interested in the conversations whlch are now taking place in Batavia. They are, in·fact, not merely news in the technical sense of that ward, as sa many domestic questions are, but they quite naturally touch a chord in the human heart, .quite apart from whatever the . Charter cloes·or doesnot provide.For that reason, and for that reason alone, 1 shall be gIad ta suggest ta my Government. that this Couneil be informed of the outeome of the discussions, as an act of deference and courtesy toward this Couneil on our part. It goes without saying.that this does no.t, becauseitcannat, imply any stigma on .' ~ British troops. Measures have. been taken te fonn wor-ld public opinion by th~ establishment of a co-ordinated information policy, by virtue of which both the D'utch and the Indonesians who are partidpants in the talks, andalsothe British services, will publjsh each other's official statements fully. It hasalsobeen agreed that no obsta.cles shall .be .put in the way of the FinaUy, and as a point outside the strict scope of this debatt;, 1 should like to express a word of cordial thanks to aU those who, moved by the genuine interest they took in the outcome of the negotiations which are now taking place in Java, have e.,"{pressed their sincere good wishes for the succl"'..ssful outcome of these talks. 1 do this in the name of aU concerned. Sure as wc are of your sympathy, we hope to carry these talks to a satisfactory conclusion, in order that we may promote, in due course, the admission of the Commonwealth of Indoncsia to the United Nations.
The President unattributed #130623
1 would like to ask the representative of Egypt whether, in view of the statement made by the representative of the Netherlands, we s,liould now proceed to bis motion. Mr. RrAz (Egypt): The motion is before the Oounci1.
The President unattributed #130625
Then, 1 put to the Counci1 tll:e resolution that has been moved by the representative of Egypt. Mr. VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated [rom Russian): 1 wish to propose a third point to be added to the resolution proposed by the Egyptian delegation; that is, 1 wish to submit the following amendment: With a view to clarifying the situation in Indonesia and to hastening the re-establishment of normal conditions, a cOinmission should be sent composed of the representatives of China, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. 1 submit that, in accordance with the rules of procedure, this 'amendment should be. voted upon before the resolution of the Egyptian delegation. .'. 'The PRESIDENT: Do the members of the Council wish tp màkeany observations? Mr.. BEVIN (United Kingdom): l shall pe very brief. In the ameIldment just moved, it seems. to me that the text is the same as in the original·resolutio:Q-,. which has been defeated. With;~gàrdtotheproposa1orthe Egyptian tcpresentative, paragraph 1..says that it is dearly understood that British troops are not to be Ufled in any circumstances agaillst the Indonesian natiomil movement. .That has. an inference that theyhave \been,.0rWin he so used; àad therefore . rnyC;:overnment lias instruçted .me to vote With regard to the way in which British troops should be used~ we are under the Combined Chiefs of Staff, and if it is felt that the British troops are doing anything in excess, or in any way contral'Y to what has been laid down by the Combined Chiefs of Staff, it is for the Combined Chiefs of Staff to tell us where we are doing wrong. Up till now, nothing has been said ta us. 1 cannot accept either the amentime..."lt moved by Mr. Vyshinsky or the resolution moved by the Egyptian de1egation, as l think the whole honour of the British Government in its conduct of this business is involved. We can not accept anything from the Security Council which implies that we have either attackèd the Indonesian national movement, which we have never done, or that we are likely to do so. If other members of the Security Council ask to he trusted, 1 ask for the British Government to he trusted in carrying out the obligations which the Allied Command and the Allied Commanders imposed upon us. To l'aise the question, either openIr or in language which by inference can be interpreted as mea'1ing that we have done anything eIse than we have been asked to do, is a thing that arouses not only our resentment, but that .meets with our stubborn opposition. The British Government, His Majesty's Government, therefore, must resist both th Egyptian resolution and the amendment by Mr. Vyshinsky. Ml'. RrAz (Egypt): 1 shall be very brief. 1 wish to assure Ml'. Bevin that it never crossed my mind to cast any inference or reHection upon British troops, either in my declaration or in my proposai. Ml'. BEVIN (United Kingdom): If that is so, then 1 suggest that the resolution should not have been framed, because the language of paragraphs 1 and 2 would be read by the world as n1eaning that. Ml'. RIAz (Egypt): M<ty 1 say thatjf there is anythillg in the language which infers that, Ml'. Bevin can rightlyput in anamendment to alter the language in conformity with what he needs. Ml'. VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translatedfrom .Hussian) :We,have ~U;:.~e~d:n:;qn..nonin de- Ml'. MàDZELEWSKI (Poland) (translated from French): 1 said yesterday aU 1 wished to say regarding the amendment. 1 ended my state, ment yesterday with these woreis: The Polish delegation is ready to accept any solution provided it is in accordance with the spirit of the Charter, strengthens the authority of the Secucity Council and furthers our work for peace and international security.:J. The motion on which we .voted a short while aga fulfilled these conditions. 1 shall vote in favour of any resolution which may be drawn up on these lines,
The President unattributed #130626
1 should like to say ta the Counci1, as its President, that in the absence of rules of procedure which might guide me in regard to the acceptallce or otherwise of motions and amendments, 1 am not afforded the powers which are essential if 1 am to determine whether an amendll1ent which has been submitted, or maybe even a motion, COnfOrInS to any terms of order. That being so, it means that, if any amendment which is proposedd,oes not strictly conform to the provisions for an amendmeût, and furthermore if it may be said ta be, in substance, the same as a proposal already made, it can be ouly upon the resolution of sorne member of the Council that sucll an amendment or proposition is rejected. Therefore, 1 would say that,unless there is objection to my rcception of the amenc4nent that has beeIi proposed by the representative of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,· thereis no alternative to having it placed before the meeting as an amend.ment to the resolution that .has been moved by the representative of Egypt. . .Now 1 put the amendmentas proposed by the representative ofthe Soviet Union: With .a view. to clarüying the situation in Indonesia and tohastening the re-establishment .of .nOrmal... c()fiditions, a commission should he sent compooed of the representarives of China, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, the United States of fu"llericaand the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Two representatives voted.
The President unattributed #130630
As there is not the required number that is essential under Article 27, paragraph 3, to carry it in the affirmative, the resolution is not carried. The matter is now closed. W'e pass to the next item on the agenda. 72. Letters from the Head of the Yugoslav de~egation and the Yugoslav Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs 1
The President unattributed #130632
The next item îs the letter from the head of the Yugoslav delegation ta the Executive Secretary and the letter from the Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs of Yugoslavia ta the Secretary-General dated 9 February 1946. The question is one that deals with the request of Albania for admission as a Member of the United Nations. As this would need ta be submitted to the General Assembly for ratification, if a recommendation were made in those terms, it is apparent that this could not be forwarded to the Assembly until its session in Septf'.Jnber next. 1 therefore suggest that this matter mightbe deferred unm such time as it is possible for the Council to have the opportunity of a complete review of many of the other requests that may be made of a similar character for admission ta membership.Whatis the wish of the Council with regard to this item? . Ml'. STETTINIUS (United States of America): 1 heartily support the views that you have just expressed. ln one of our veryearly meetings~ 1 stated that.the matter of admitting States'to the United Nations was a very serious one which would require very careful analysis, and 1think that it. would be highly'desirable that th.is. question be deferreduntil a later date, when we would have ample opportunity. ta go into it thoroughly. Mr.. VVSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics}~\wanslated trom Russian) :When 1 wish to remind the Security Council that, when this question was discussed, 1 said that we understood it had been raised not in order that it should be excIuded under one pretext or another, but in order that it should be examined. 1 insist that it shotlld be examined, particularly since it is not .iluch a èomplicated question. The attitudetaken-by AlbatïÏa inthewar is absolutely cIear, and there are no difficulties in examining the substance of this question. 1 submit that we have no right ta postpone the examination of this matter on thegrounds that the Gerieral Asn 'sembly will not have time to examine it after we have done so. We must continue our work regardless of whether the General Assembly will or will not have timeto examine this question. 1 must insist that this questionbe examined by the Security Council now. 1 consider it an urgent and important matter.
The President unattributed #130635
1 can~..ssure the representative of the Soviet Union that 1 made no suggestion that this item should be removed from the agenda. In these matters,as will be quite understood, 1 am entire1y in thehands of the Council as ta whatever decision it.may wish to make. -MI'. BEVIN l United Kingclom): Iwouldaplo peal to the Soviet delegation ta postpone decision .·until•.•we meetagain after this Assembly session Îs.over, whenwecan look intothe whole question of admission of.. otherfowers to the :Agsembly and to the United.Nations. Very difficult questions arise in .cOnIlexion .witIi Albania which 1 do not want toargue tonight.. On the otherhand, .1. donot •.wantto.·beputin .the position ofvotingagl:linst anycountry.•r think, ifl May say. so . withrespect, thatthe Soyiet ,delegationwould bewiseifitgaveusa chance " to look at applications,not Oltiy from Albania If l were forced to vote tonight, l should have to vote against the proposal; but l do not want to have to vote against it and l do not wartc to be misunderstood. 1 am not antagonistic, but l should be perfectly willing, li time is given to the British Government to study this question together with many others, to devote a special session of the Security Council later on to all these considerations. Therefore l sincerely hope, and indeed l would urge the Soviet Government not to press it at this stage. It would be unfortunate, when somebody makes an application, to put us in a position to having to vote against it because we have not had time to look into àll the facts of the case. There are difficulties which are wel1 known in this particular case, but l do not think it is wise to l'aise them now; indeed, the further we move away from the actual war itself, the less likelihood there is of ever :.1aving to " Taise them. Therefore; a little patie.-;,;:,e alld tolerance in this matter may lead to an agreement which will be satisfactory to everybody. 1.would urge the Soviet delegation not to press us to a vote tonight. On behalf of my Government, l will give a solemn undertaking that, both in this case and in others which will be coming along, we shall give most serious consideraiion to the whole problem; but if l am forced now, l shall have to vote against. Therefore, in a case like this it is a question whether one country puts you in a dillicult position, or whether t.here is a spirit of compromise ta delay, in order that we may get agreement and probably not have any difficulties at aU.. . The PRESIDENT: l would like to say to the Council thatitwill benoted that l have not asked it to dèdd.é~hether the representative of Yugoslavia should be"admitted at this stage. l feel that we have to determine fust whether the Council proceeds îmmediately with this particulaI' question; then, at that stage, the Council will be asked whether the representative of that country shall be invited to the table. à pas Yougoslavie discussion. déterminer tement où d'inviter pays Mr. BIDAULT (France) (translated trom French): l Jully appreciate the weight of the l'importance argufilents which have been put forward to prove présentés that it would be highly expedient if general rules l'établissement. de for the admission of new Members to the United sion Nations were prepared. l also ftilly appreciate Nations Mr. VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated tram Russian): 1 am very sorry that 1 have to speak against the statement made here by Mr. Bevin. The fact is that Ruch matters are not settled on a basis of per" sonal favours. 1 would be prepared to do Mr. Bevin more than one favour, but not at the cost of Albania, 'lor at the cost of its interests. When this matter was discussed for the first titne, it was proposed to postpone its exa.mïllation until other applications' were received, in order that they might be examined together. That idea was not supported then, and it was considered that the question of admitting Albania to membership of the Orga.ni?ation should not beconnected with the admission of other countrÏes. Now this questionhas arisen again. Mr. Bevin has said that if this question were to' be examined he would vote against it, although ll,e was most'unwilling to do so. l welcome Mr. Bevin's statement that he does not wish to vote against it. But if Mr. Bevin wishes to vote for it, he can easily do so. We would join him in this, and 1 thi."lk that other qelegations would join him in supporting Albania, wmch wasone of the first victims of Hitlerite Germany, and whicn has also made its contribution to the cause of victory over. Germany.The fact that at one time, while 'under the Mel of the enemy, Albania waged waragainst Greece, means nothing. During the period of the Vichy Government, France waged waragainst us and against Great Britain. We· carialso adduce other exampleso.fcertain Gov.. emments waging war' against the United Nations.·contrary to the. will of their peoples, but this does not prevent the~e countries, now freed from the Hitlerite.yoke andwith their sovereiRIl independence re-establisheJ, from entering the United Nations, from, participating in that Organization, and, even frem serving on the SecurityCouncil.We welcome this decision, because peoplescannot' be held a:nswerable for the. ac- , tions ofquislings who have been imposed Œ1 ~hem by force. ''Vhat isthe Albanianquestion? It is not SUChl acompliçated matter to admit to the United, Ml'. BEVIN (Uni~ed Kîngdom): Not tonight. , Ml'. VYSHlNSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated {rom Russian): 1 ask him why we should make this question so com~ plicated? Why must we consider it insoluble? Why must we try ta reacha compromise? Must we always have compromises? 1 insist that we should judge this question on its merits, and 1 am sure that if the Council did judge it thus, it would come to a unanimous dècision to admit Albania to membership of the United Nations. Ml'. Bidault has reminded us that there are still thirteen European States outside the United Nations. LetthemaIl applyto be. admitted as Mèmbers of the Organization. We shall see to' what extent they satisfy the conditions and, if we consider it suitable, we shall admit them. We do not wish to turn the United Nations into a narrow, sectarian organization. Indeed, this is impossible, for we already have fifty:'one States. Let us do everything possible to expand this Organization. 1 insist thatAlbania would he a worthy Member, and 1 support its candidature. 1 repeat that, although1 should like to do Ml'. Bevin a favour, we are notspeaking here of personal favours, but of a question of·principle and of the vital interests of a nation.
The President unattributed #130637
Dô 1 .•understand that the representative .of France-wîsnes tOÏ'aISè-::Ft,llit of order? Ml'. BIDAULT (France) (translatet! jrom French): For the sake of the hon()im of my èountry and out of respect for my n.1.fwories of the period of terror, 1 feel it my dûty to point out to the Head of. the Sovietdelegation that there. was a passage inhisspeechewhicb; undoubtedly' went .further than he' in'œp.ded. He said just now that France, tmder the Vichy reginJ.e, fought against'the •Allies~ .Great Britain and the Soviet Union. . . I·wüU1d point out.::tP.at'Vichyfollght (anel that se,ems tome toi'be the'correct expression) againstGreat Britain, the Soviet Union and the le other Allies,and for tIlli: purpose· recruited .a handful of wretcIies;.) But France underVichy ques t (.·1.10·n'"'arOIulRd.esrJS.etcaanlcleth ...,·,.!.caot.unl-'c •.N'.ila)'S.....•.gPar......~.seidt·.ehl1etAlliof.tehs",eb'No"ta.•h~"_\ ." France!oJ.1s .' ,v , _ Président Mr•.VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated trom Russian): When 1 spoke of France, 1 naturally made a distinction . between the French people and the Vichy Government. 1 mentioned particularly that th~ fact that the Vichy Government was an agency of the German Hitlerite State and behaved accordingly during the Wai" can in no way cast doubt on the right of France and the French people ta participate in the United Nations, a right which we have never questioned and which, on th~ contrary, we have always welcomed. 1 thillk thatMr. Bidault's words only emphasize once again the necessity for a similar attitude towards the Albanian people; l(ffid 1 think Mr. Bidault will support my point ofview. Mr. BIDAULT (France) (translated trom French): The incident is closed. Mr, STETTINIDS (United States of America): 1 move that this item be kept on our agenda, but that disposition be deferred, pending further study, until the Security Council convenes at the temporary headquarters. My Governmenf desires to have more time ta examine the problem. 1 ask for a vote on that motion. Mr. MODZELEWSKI (Poland) (translated trom French): When we discussed the question' of placing the Albanian request for admission to the United Nations on the agenda, 1 spoke in .fa:vour of such admission. 1 would now like to read you à few passages from the letterfrom the President of the People's Republic of Albania ta the President and.Vice-Presidents of the ,Gen." eral Assembly, as.kingus ta examine his request for admission ta our Organization.1 In thefirst place, the President of thePeople's Repllblicôf Albania states' that he addressed a requestto the President of the Preparatory Commission as far back as 20 December 1945. This letter ,emphasizesthat the Govermnent of the Pegple's Republic of Albania is desirous ofgiving positive' evidence ofthe importance it attaches to the OrganiZaticinfor peace and co-operation r. nong nations, and of joining the other democraticcountries in working, out the' ilOble 'purposes and exalted principles which constitute' the basis of the Organization. d'attirer discussion a par sentée discussion sans pouvez cussion vouloir me
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1 would iSay to the representative of Poland that of course 1 realize that there are no rules of procedure, wmch does certainly make it difficult for me to know just how far my powers as President may permit me to go. But it is the usual practice, when a resolution is submitted which is equivalent to an adjournment of the proposition, to consider that resolution ashaving precedence over the other matters which have been before the body which is considering them. However, if the representative of Poland wishes to proceed, of course there are no rules which will permit me in any way ta deny him the opportunity to do sa. remarquer sais ce jusqu'à me lorsqu'un demande donne tous saisi si suivre sa règlement lui refuser. . .Mt. VYSHINSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): We are ' wasting time and 1 should like to speak. socialistes perdons dre Mr. MODZELEWSKI (Poland) (translated from French): 1 should like to conclude my remarks with a definite proposal. In the letter referred to, we read the following: "1 wish to declare on behalf of the Government of the People's Republic, of Albania that our country is prepared to assume all the obligations arising from the Charter of the United Nations." At this point, 1 would argue not so much on politicaI as on humanitariah grounds. Put yourself in the place of Albania, a small country which has undergone nazi occupation and later fought on the side of all the Allies. Today, Albania sees the United Nations beginning to .work, and it hopes that, by joining it, it Will be able to help, the Organization. and, at the , ,same time, consolidate its own position. Can we reply to, this litde. country that the rules of procedure have not h~en',finally settled, and that..we cannot evendiscuss theprinciple of such admission? 1 would like all of you to place yourselves in the position of Albania for a monIent and answer this question with sincerity. ' miner concrète. core ce qui suit: nement que obligations Unies." peut-être présente vous qui a l'Albanie Nations adhésion, même vons-nous ment que cipe se banie, tion. ponse }Jr,ésigeAt l, prop9s.e, and this seeInS perfecdy feasible to me, 'thatthe.SecuritV Council. should imdertake to.send ai'eply on'thefollowinglines: "The SecurityCouncil, in reply to the letter from the President of the Pe0l"le'~Republicof Albatùa Mr. BEVIN (United Kingdom) ~ Oh no. Not tomprrow. The PRESIDEt.'TT: Did the representanve of the Soviet Union wish to speak? Mr. VYSHlNSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated trom· Russian): 1 ouly wanted to say that· 1 thought we were wasting time.
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A motion has been submitted by the representative of thè United States of America. He moves that this item oe kept on the agenda) but that consideration of it be deferred) pending further study, until the Security Council convenes at the temporary headquarters. His Government desires t') have more time t;o examine the problem. 1 will ask the Council '0 vote. Is there any objection to the resolution? Mr. RIAz (Egypt) (translated trom French) : 1 tbink that this proposaI would prove more acceptable if a sub-committee of three members wereinstructed to submit to the next meeting of this .Council a report on the rules of procedure governing the conditions of admission ofnew Members. . Mr. STETTINIUS (United States of America): May 1 point out ta the representative of Egypt that our COIpmittee of Experts is already discussing rules of procedure for admitting new Members" so 1 do not think that an additional committee would be necessary.
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1 submit the resolution as proposed by the representative of the United States of America. As it isa procedural matter, 1 would indicate that it cornes under Article 27, paragraph 2, in regard to voting, according to which seven'members must vote in the affirmative. Will. members who are supporting this resolution raise their right hands? . The PRESIDENT: Therequired ntunber· to carry it has been obtained. The resolution there- fore' is adopted. Mr.. MODZELEWSKI (Poland) (translated trom French): 1 should like ta know what reply willbe 'sent ta Albania. The 'PREfJIDENT:.A communication will be addressed •to .the.delegation of Yugoslavia in Mr. BEVIN (United Kingdom): 1 think it would be inconvenient to meet at ten o'c1ock to deal with the very importnnt item of the agenda which will be before us. Could we make it later in the day? 1 really do not know what the en- gagements of the Assembly are and 1 do not want to inconveni~.nce anybody, but for the sake of our business 1 think it would be wiser to make it later.
Seven representatives voted•
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May 1 suggest it might possibly be agreed that a meeting be convened tomorrow at an hour ta be fixed by the President, with a view to finding a time that will be mutually convenient? NINETEENTH MEETING Held at Church House3Westminster3L.mdon3 on ThursdaY3 14 February 1946, at li a.m. President: Mr. N. J. O. MAKIN (Australia). Present: Therepresentatives of the following . countries: Australia, .Brazil, China, Egypt, France, Mexico, Netherlands, Poland, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, United Kingdom, United States of America. 73. Provisional agenda 1. Adoption of the agenda. 2. Letter from the Heads of the Lebanese and Syrian delegations to 'the Secretary-General dated 4 February 1946 (document S/5).1. 3. Report by' the Chairman of the Committee of Experts on the alterations made by the Committee in the provisional rules of pro- cedure of the .Security Council (doclL1!lent g. S/6)~ . 74.. Adoption of the agenda Première nexe'9.
After a brief discussion3 this frroposal was adopted.
The meeting rose at 11.30 p.m.
The agenda was aâopted.
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