S/PV.28 Security Council
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The agenda was adopted.
The representative of Iran may remain.
Mr. BYRNES (United States of America): should like ta make a statement. Assurances have been· given ta the Council by the USSR representative that the USSR has already commenced ta withdraw its troops from Iran; that it is the intention of the USSR Government ta proceed with the withdrawal of .its troops as rapid1y possible, and that barring "unforeseen circumstances" the withdrawal of all USSR troops from the whole of Iran will be completed within five or six weeks. .
The Iranianrepresentative hasstated that the dÎl3pute with the Union of Soviet Socialist Re-
Even if the Council should now proceed to consider the substantive issues. involved in the dispute between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Iran and to recommend the withdrawal of USSR troops as requested by Iran, USSR troops could not be withdrawn from Iran in a substantially shorter period of time than that within wmch the USSR Government has declared it to be its intention to withdraw them.
But the members of the Council must be solicitous to avoid any possibility of the presence of USSR troops in Iran being used to influence or coerce the Government of Iran in negotiations wlth the USSR Government.
If the Council could obtain more adequate and exact information regarding the status of the negotiations between the USSR Government and the Irax1Ïan Government, the Council might he able to satisfy itself that the assurances of the USSR Government as to the prompt withdrawal of troops from Iran are in fact for all practical purposes unconditional.
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In that event, there might be no need for the Council to go into the substantive issues, provided it reserved the right to both parties to have the case ïnunediately taken up by the Council should there be any developments wmch threatened to retard the withdrawal of troops.
1 suggest that the President of .the Council request the Secretary-General to endeavour to abtain from the USSR Government and the I:anian Government through their representatives and report to the Council at its meeting on
~uesday, 2 April, the existing status of negotia-
~ans between the two Governments, and. particularly to ascertain from the representatives of the twoGovernments and report whether or not the reported withdrawal of troops is conditional
substan~alIy shorter period," we should say, "the withdrawal of alI USSR troops would not be completed in a substantially shorter period time."
As this was a statement by the representative of the United States, 1 wonder what·he thinks about the observations made by the representative of the United Kingdom.
Mr. BYRNES (United States of America): No resolution is presented. That is my statement;·you may want to calI it a speech. 1 accept the amendment. to my speech because 1 think it is a good amendment.
Colonel HODGSON (Australia): The principle by wmch the Australian Government· stands that the Council should not take any decision without careful, orderly and methodical examination. of aIl the facts and information relating to the dispute.
We believe that the Council should not discuss the merits of the case and, before it is ready to do. that, permit assertions, counter-assertions and charges to be made, but that at an early stage it should call for proof to ascertain the real facts toenable it to malte a just and impartial . decision.
As the body primarily charged with the maintenance of peace, we are here to seek the solution of disputes in conformity with the principles justice and international law in the interests
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cette question soit inscrite à l'ordre par une complets.
The Australian delegation voted for this item to be placed on the agenda, but aU our subseqUeIit actions have been directed to obtaining full documentation and information.
Now as to this particular proposal, the Australian delegation thinks it is a good one for the following reasons:
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et un parties impute Conseil tance des fixe produise
First, it takes note of assurances and statements without attempting to pass any judgement on the case.
Secondly, it does îlot impute to either onf" or the other party any blame or any wrong. It asks for information vital to this Council: that is. what is the actual state of the negorlations ai the present time? And in asking for that information it fixes a limited period of time so that there will be ~o undue delay.
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In that regard, 1 mightsuggest for Mr. Byrnes' consideration that he might' make it a little bit more elastic, and 1 would suggest probably 3 April or 4 April because, if the USSR representative had the same difficulty as 1 had'in communicating \Vith my Government o~g to what they caU this "magnetic storm", 1 think it would he practica1ly -a physical impossibility for him to send his communications and get the considered reply back from his Government by 2 April. 1 would suggest for consideration that it might be fixed for 3 April or 4 April.
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The last point is that the statement of the United States representative provides that after we have received the information we shall then he in a position to examine it" and in regard to that point 1 should like the President to note that 1 have reserved my right later on at the proper time to make suggestions as to the procedure we should then follow.
Consequently, we accept this proposal and we trust it will he acceptable to the other members of the Council. You will note that it is very close ta the original proposal submitted by the Australian delegation on Wednesday, and in the light of the developments of the last two days it is a matter of regret to us that the Council did not. see fit to accept then what we regarded as. areasc:n3.ole mean hetween two opposing pomts of Vt~w.
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1 want to say that 1 am very happy about the proposal of the United States representative, Mr. Bymes, and 1 want to inform this Council that it can count on my Government's support of an attempt to findan understanding and a solution acceptable tn all the interested parties. Mr. VAN KLEFFENS (Netherlands): Since we are discussing an idea of the United States Secretary of State, Mr. Bymes, and since the Secretary of State signified his desire to speak, shoûld be quite willing to yield to him. Mr. BVRNES (United States of America): asked only because no one was asking for recognition. 1 should much prefer that the representative of the Netherlands proceed.
Mr. VAN KLEFFENS (Netherlands): 1 wanted only to say that 1 endorse this idea wholehearted1y. 1 think it is an admirable one. It will help us, 1 am sure, to deal with this matter accordance with the letter, and in the true spirit, of the Charter. Itherefore think we should proceed with it. Now, with regard to the date on. which we should meet next, 1 do not profess to know much about magnetic storms. 1.donot know whether anybody does. 1 do not think we should necessarily proceed on the assumption that there will be magnetic storms until 4 April.. Therefore 1 should like to suggest that we simply take this date, which seems to be reasonable in oI'dinary circumstances of communication, as a thing to go'by, unless this date is proved to be impractical. The date to which 1 refer is 2 April.
Mr. CASTILLO NAJERA (Mexico): 1 want to support the date of 2 April as the final date fixed l'anglais): for the report of both parties to the Council. 2 1 voted against the proposal of the Anstralian deux representative, .ùthough he stated substantiaUy voterai the same thing as did the United States reprel'Australie, sentative. Howe.ver 1 think there is a difference. même The Australian proposal did not fix aily date, Cependant, but left ittû the parties themse1ves, so far as the 1proposition' de time is concemed, to present aU kinds of docupour ments and. facts. It asked that this information mais be written and it stated that this body is a demandait tribunal before which aU the documents must be sentés presented., sorte devaient
proposition celle la que, tion n'aurait n'aurions renseignements
So there is substantially a difference. The pro- :1osals submitted by the United States and Australian representatives respective1y are different in sa far as the question of time is concemed. 1should like to point out that if we had adopted the Australian proposal on Wednesday we should not have had the Iranian representative here and we should not have heard aIl the information he has 'laid before us.
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Besides, Mr. Bymes' proposal asks for specifie information in order to avoid, if possible, discussion on the substance of the case and aIso to enable the two G()vernments to try. to reach an understanding.
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. The Austra:lian proposaI was'to request written information in order to go into the discussion of the substance. of the case. Therefore, there is a difference in time and a difference in substance between this proposal and the one we rejected a few days ago. 1 will support the date of 2 April for the presentation of the information.
Mr. BONNET (France) (translated tram
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~rench) : 1 should also like to express my admiration for the statement made to us by the Secretary of State of the United States of America; this statement was both well thought out and well drafted, and all the members of the Council have
Mr. LANGE (Poland): An outside observer might get the.hnpression that this whode Council was convened ody in order to discuss dates, and 1 sometimes wonder whether 1 am attending meeting ofa pnlitical hody or a meeting of astronomers. We spoke about dates at diffe'.ent times and magnetic storms. 1 hope that we shall be bit less interested in dates and consider r. . much astronomy but the sI.ilple pulitics of the situation. After all this is a political body.
The only reason why 1suggested the date supported by my colleague from Australia was· a simple matter of courtesy to one of the Govem~ ments which unfortunately isnot represented nere today, and the representative of which maintains that he needs some time to .prepare himself for the discussion of the issue.
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Mr. BYRNES (United States of America): May 1say this: If on Tuesday afternoon the Secretary-General reports that he has been unable to hear either from the Government of Iran or the representative of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, then this Council can tletermine what further time, il necessary, should be allowed. That can be settled. And 1 really think that wc ought to be able t;} agree now on this date.
Je M. voyons, cette d'heureux nous comme le discussions,
Mr. VELLOSO (Brazil): 1 want to say only a few woros to congratulate Mr. Byrnes on bis statement. The Council, as we can see, is in full agreement with this proposaI. 1 am convinced that it will work weIl, and that next week we shall be able to proceed with the matter as is the wish of an of us. As for the date, 2 April or 3 April, which has been the subject of sa much discussion, 1 have no preference.
HASSAN Pasha (Egypt): 1 would say thatl am glad that th,e session today is in good spirits glais): and that good humour prevails. 1 just wanted to esprit say that the Egyptian delegationwishes to thank qui the United States delegation for having taken au the trouble.of putting into words such a just and sentant equitable recommendation as has been ôffered rédiger by Mr. Byrnes. équitable.
1 believe that the greater ment is due to Mr. Byrnes because 1 think he infused the spirit whichgrand, animatcd each one of us and he reconci1ed all chacun the views which we have expressedand put them les avis exposés into the right words. 1 wish to thank Mr. r '"!les C'est more especially for that. à
As for the date, the Egyptian delegation would Dot like to discuss this matter, but as a matter of vo~drait courtesy to both parties, ta which our Polish par colleague will no doubt be agreeable, 1 would sentant de suggest that we decide upon the date which has d'Ü1coÎlvénient, been fixed by our French colleague.celle
If we ask the Iranian representative, probably he will wish te have that date tao. If we ask which l'Iran, date the USSR representative would prefer, prob- Si ably he would wish 4 April. 1 think it would be a qùelle good solution and, dS a matter of fact it would le •he courteous to both, if we selected 3 April, and serait ~II i.I.
The PRESIDENT ~ One correction. 1 think used the word "resolution"; as a matter of fact Mr. Bymes has made only a statcment and vote has been taken upon it, so we shaIl calI it suggestion instead of a resolution. Anyway, it adopted unanimously by the Council.
The meeting rose at 4.35 p.m.
TWENTY·NINTH MEETING
Held at Hunter College, New York, on Wednesday, 3 April 1946, at 11 a.m.
President: Mt. Quo Tai-chi (China).
Present: The representatives of the following countries: Australia, Brazil, China, Egypt, France, Mexico, Netherlands, Poland, United Kingdom, United States of America.
17. Provisional agenda (document 5/23)
1..Adoption of the agenda. 2. (a) Letter dated 18 March 1946 from the representative of Iran addressed to the Secretary-General, and lettet dated March 1946 from therepresentative Iran addressed to the President of the Security Council (document S/15).· (b) Letter dated 19 March 1946 from the representative of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics addressed to the Secretary-General (document S/16).2
1 See Official Rect)r(ls of the SeeurityCouncil, First Year, First Series, Supplement No. 2, Anna 2a. 'Ibid., Supplement No. 2, Annex 2b.
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