S/PV.2802 Security Council

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The President unattributed #141870
x must say that for aoue time I have noticed the practice (The PresiQnt) delivery by 8ou ceprsrmtativer. It ia really dioturbing the wark of tho CoumoiL md I 8ppeal m repoemntatives who are sObsking not bo 6istr ibute their ebennts in the Cmnoil Cha*er. They aan do it au~ido in any way they like, but not here. Mr. PFIRISS (Argentina) (interpretation from Spanish)t My Governmnt ie acmaerned at the grauing ten6iano in Curtral Ameriua and at t&e hat that foreign troop hwo W oent to a aocntry in the ragion. Qlae again wa would l rqlhaeioe that a aolutian bo Um aukfllat in Central Ameriaa requirea full tea-et for the grinaiple of naa-intmvmbtion. That prinaipre met be res&wtad by tbe umtriea in the regiaa, amy thomelvu and betueea tbae aountriea that have linL8 with and inwrrti in tlm tagioa. A nwtiatod 8olutioa W th* arnfliet in Central llwriaa - rrbiah m country firmly mpprtr - mut be bd an the prindplem aaitairub in the Cmtrdotr kt On PUa and Nmratiab in Crrtcal -rim and m the Bmquipular II acuwQ. Staility in tbr regim will be adhved mly when there L full rempat for the prinuiplw of nab-intermticm and relfdaterminatiar and a &watia way of life. #aeva itbn l ddreoaed thequutiar of Central Curtiin the hawity Counail Argentina hu mdr alwt tbat the ucisia affecting that ragim, to which we are alaely linked by tiw of blood, history and lengum~, io of tbe gtmstrst mnurn to it. A aonfrartaticm in Central hmatiaa would huve irreparable iapli~tims for the entire hemiephere. It would crwte deep division0 in the C&m snd auld have 8 netgative impact on the beimcratic inetitutiare that hwe deweloped ln our cattinemt in recent years. bardiqly, we vould m&e a fraternal appeal to the &wermxtnte of Ecmduurrs and Wicaregua indiately to leaaeen the tensfan in the border area and to guarantee respect for each other’8 territorial integrity end the non-use of their territories as bases for w&led actiona against other States in accordance with the (Mr. Pfir ter , Amentim) m%iru rutmint utd to rotrain from any l atiar thet might wormon the aatfliot or ~eomtdi80 thepeaa pmrm inCrrtralAlbriu8. The ~IDlUPt The next speaku i8 the reprwentative of Cata llioc. I ilWiU him bo trke a plm at the Camail table and Co mks hi@ l titaant. #. QfiIM (Gate Rise) (intapretatian fra Sp8nirh)t X l m gratrful fOr thio apowtunity b prtidipte in the puent &beta, a trak whidr, ao the ceprraatitive of Cata BLa8, I feel l yaelf in duty bourd tD pufm. I regret the ixuent muto of affair8 md rppeaiata Umt tbe par of event6 has prwd the CoanaUtordmdulathimmtinqmor~dil~. ~eatudrp the lllnimtrr for Poreigr Affaira of C!mb Rica iuued th follaing .Ia vim ob roant eventa ia the bar&t uu b&mea Bar&ru 8nd lieuagu8 ute muruat of cata Alao &plaeu the l otiata eat have tatah .“P& Qoerrmmt of Cootr Rio0 rishea ta eqhamire its prmnant oomitmnt60 the pitwiplw thatin8pirecl thene(lotiating proaereknow, aa WUiLum II, wbicrh oormtitub the emamtiel frarauork for the rtbinmnt of a luting, nonviolent eolutiar bo the serious problem3 enfeting in the region. “Sinilrtly, the Wertnt of Costa Rica urges the various Wrr in the to guarantee the pcesetvation of peace in the Iethaue and a apse&y return trD normalcy. ’ In acmrdenoe with the terms of that mmmuniqd, I feel it necesesry briefly to inform the m~ere of the Security Council of our apprasch to the eituatia that (Hr. tbtierres, caetcl niaa) me GQwunwntofcata maa aoluidua timtour aountry ienotpBrtof the p~&lvotCIlrt~rlAlwria buttbrt Central&mica im l aourof problem foe cart8 maa. 0L, do not think t&t we bwe aantributed to the arids, but we feel it ematiel that wa aontribu* to itr eolution, ainoe it l tfeutfa uuI and pofomdly 90. The mormom flw of refugeee, the unaertrhty in the etea that bee 1eU to Mt-b&m in ewaaio life, the ga*Peiling alhmtb of tenrian, amnot feil to afteat a aaunttp *id, ia newuthelen oarthuing to prrerwe internal peece ad to Pwtiae dowarwy ad whidb weld wiob the ma to apply in neighhwring sad 8a$ment natiau. Ok. Gutierrea, Costa Rica) AU of thoee autter QrcmQted our President, Dr. Oscar Aria8 sanchea, to put forward his peace plan. &mere1 satisfaction and relief uere felt at the signing by the five Presidents of the Central Amerioan Republics on 7 August laet year of the l Procedure for the eetsbliehment of a firm and lasting peace in Central AWWiW.. Since then we have worked b imQlement the plan and enmare that all the uamituenta entered into were haroured. At the beginning of this weedt the OUtIh& See+i!Ed quite promising. The Emuutive Comieeian set up by the five Foreign Ministers had a aemd meting Planned for 23 Mar&. The previous meting, in mbrwry, had taken Qlaoe in an atipbere of cordiality md harmmy and a desire to find 8olutioma. In Pebruary the Qvanmnt of Wiczaragua had presented a detailed verification plan, rhidr it had bean agrod would be diecussed at the Mr& meeting. At the national lwel, the adrievewnt of a negotiated cease-fire in m Salvador and Wicaragua continued to be the crucial pmblefa in the proceae. tiwer, after mmy efforte and despite oppoeing position8 and difficult ciraumtanws, there had bean agreement that a meeting should be held on Mtmdmy, 21 -rdI, in the Wiwragtm tarn of Sapoar near the bar&r with Coats Rica. Thu, at the lea&, we had a procedure to work towards a cease-fire. R-ever, during thie week, inetaad of prepering ite negotiating position, the #icarsguan Government attempted to achieve the total military defeat of it6 Opponente, carrying out an offensive with all the equipent available to it as a result of ite arm6 build-up over a number of yeare. FkHz mntent with carryinq out thoee activities in its own territory, its army entered the territory of the Republic of Rclduraa in order to try physically to eliminate its opponents once and for all. That provoked the inevitable reaction by the Honduran authorities - their request for assistance from the kited States Government - the sending of military (Hr. QItierrex, Caata Rica) l ndlng of mtlitsry forces by the bited a-tee, and mother emergenay eituutipr ~I’I Centsal mmer ice. OJe are back to aqume one, after thinking at one stege that we oould achieve uom of our goals. WB tbougbt that we bad pulled bask from the ~eoipieu of ViOleWe and suffering, but nm we are at the edge moe again. Tberefote, it ie logical tit the Coata RLcen Oarernment should de&ore whet he happened. Barever, nothing can be geined by uondematiam or seeking to apportion blame. Wothing irteperable bae hapgened yet. m can etill return ta the aourse we have mt ourselves. we mmt return to the dtment to peace and progreee tamrd that ml. The wtinge me ecill s&e&lad for next week. Furthermxe, I mdurtmd tbut the Pruident of the rmtpublic of ~uatemalu, Hr. Vinicio Cereoo, ha8 awaled to tie other Central &uricun Preai&nte to tske part in an easrgmcy meting, rhiah wuld tdce p&w wet tbe wee&ad; that is not yet certiin- In my event, we urrt nm atrive to t3ec that we all return to the negotiating tam. Thin new crieie should be a vivid, lasting example of tie trl~eh that the Ptl, Of war and violence will not lead to any final solution to t&e Central Ameriom crisis und that no one can mink of exploiting the mmentsry weakness of biu opp~nentu. mther, in the epitit of the EequiprLa,e MreePBnt, we mat all work bo adrr u reality of peace and derfocr: cy in Central AIPsriCB. The PBEBIDIBTz I Phauld like tr:, inform peubermr of the Council that I have received a 1etLer frcm the repreaenbtfve of PWJ in chish he requests to be invite~¶ to participate ln the diecueeian c f the item on the Council ‘8 agem&. Zn canformfty with the usual practix pro-e, with the consent of the Coimcilr to invite that represekcative to participate ii-3 the ~~EUEIS~~, without the right 50 Voter in accordance w.tb the relevant provfsicim of the Charter and rule 37 of the COUnCil’s provisional rules of prwx&re. (The Oteeident) Tbue being no objection, it ie 80 decidm3~ At the invitition of the Pteeident, WC. ~loslata (Peru) took the plam reserved for him at the aide of the Counoil Chadert The OR~SXDIST~ The next speeker ie the reprarentative of peru. 1 invite him to take a plme 8t the Coundl table md TV make him e~tment. He. AfiswlQu (Fwu) (interpretetia, fra Spmieh)t The Gwumnt of Peru uirbu to infoslr the Cotnioil of its grwe uawern QPU the draieion by the Unit& St8t~ 000urnt to Swd miliury fOtw0 t0 tb0 tUri&ty Of the ILlmbli0 of awdurw tollwing the armed ale&ma that bme t&en plaae in reomt deya in l oe UatdutudUiau0gua botdu atu bebeen unitm of the 00ndini0ta Puplo’ Amy and tbeit regulu foraee operating in the urn. m aamidu @at tbi0 mjuatified inereaaed United States milihry gwmnm in thr l ree rffoata the pDlitiw1 dkrk Amriam Bee&e of Stete at the Bmquiprlre II maeting end thrwtine the seaurity of tit0 mttu of the area- The Govunmnt of Peru makett an urgent frabtnal appeal to the Qwuwnta of aum,ucup end wicuagua to take the path of tawueign, direct dialogue to bedme tendon QI the bxder between them, pusten~ twpect for the tettitocidl integtity of each and emore that t!.mir territorba are not used for iaattt of e99ret3eian crgainet other atatee, in scowdonce with the uxdtmentr, altered into in Etquiptiatt II. In ecoordance with ticwe cwmitwnt6, Peru also calla fcr the vitht¶~ewl of all foreign military foroee from Central bericm and en end to outside reaiotanca to the irreguler forcee and ineurrectim ukcwusienta opereting in the regicm. We ccmider that torlrs’j it is mre urgent than wer that there be strict reapeec*, for tie basic pttnctplee Cjf non-interference, the non-we of force oc t)?? TRIO meting was ouspended at 5 p.m. ard reaumd at 6 PasO* The PRFNIOHTt & I ctated earlier, 6018 representatives had requested that the mee&ing be suspended 60 that consultatima uould be held. I am now informd thet these have taken place. The rcprasentstive of Nicaragua baa asked to mke a etatemnt, and I call upon hU. ble. CA503 (Nioarague) (interpretation from Spanish)8 ny Gooerrnt ie not in Ole least eusprised by the aauumticm levelled against it this aftunoon by UIe representative of emdutse. lcaragua kncwe Ohrt the Qvernrsnt of the united BUtas ie premuring the Government of flunduras to adopt pmitions not in keeping with the intumtr of the Eanduran peaple gt with the intereuU and wisbee of Central meriaans in gmrcal. The united Bbtes has been uain9 ita influence and power W dorob thora pwitionr QI ikmduras. I do not want to take up the Beuurity Council% tim by wing int0 the Niuraguan Govunmnt*s efforti with swoaesive ~andwan ~vunmanta since 1981, beginning with the CWunmnt of General Policupo Par Garcia, with e view to wing the masums neoeseery to elladnste eituatiane and irmidente in the Nicaragua-Eenhrae border ereaa that awld heightm tension betamen our two oountriw and develop into threats tro international peace and eeuurity. We wde tboee efforte in the belief &at such incidentei do not aerve the interests either of the people and the Government of Ekmdurao or of the people and the Oorrzmmant of Nicaragua. lwt we tinderstand thut they 8ecve the interesta of B bver em&l d(B tried by all pbeeiblo mssns to aeate aonflicte that cmld later be wed tD justify it8 eqgreseim egalnst my camtry. Yet it ia strange that the Govermnt of P -w%urae should speak of a Nicaraguar, "invmionm of its territory when there has never been a ccmfrontstion between the (Ha. Casaa, Nicaragua) armiem of our wo aolmtries. The Garernment of Bandwee kncwa that the logal definition Of aggre86ion inoalves am St8te 0aQIByhg the territory of another with the rim of undermining ite turitorial integrity. we therefore find it sbaurd to weak of an inveeiun uhm the (iovernmnt of Bcndurae kncwo that the Wverrubnt of Eicaregua har no intartim of ooaupying its turitory. Tim arly occupstim of Hudum6 mtbyof tben6m ie tie pemnor, anBan&ran territoty of United States troqm and Bnganite l eraenuiee. &8 everyone knwe, the International Vuificrsticn and Bsllar-op Cararieeion - 0QpQIBd of the Foreign Hidetore of Cantrsl American ccmtriea, the countries of the Cmt~bora crad Support %~OU@J and tie ~~g~gh+&n~al of the Unitid t&tions 1 ad the Orgakatim of Auriaan S&ta, and four&d in the frawuark of the 4uiplles II Agraamnt - vinited Centre1 Mericm, q,waifically Bcndllrse, end waft givab alerr 6nd&mQmtteatimany by trade union, paerantand ooffae-grWing 9tW that foreign forms ueze occupying lugs oectore of territory in the 6aMmrn part of the wuntry and that In aone~uenae hundred6 of Eandurm familke had been cslpved from their ham. That is the invaeian~ that ie the OCaUpatiOn irporred UI ti GaPunrent of ~anduree by mitad statea preaeure. It is tbie that ahad be bmunoed in the security Council. There should be no benunciatione impoeed by the tbhited Ststee fkargh preeeute end bledcnrsilo (Ms. Caaw, Nicaragua) Niaaragus has faithfully abided by eadr end every commitment entered into within the fremvork of the Eequiprlae II peace rcaorda. 8y wnteaet, the GovernPant of ~m&uss has dieregarded its abligationa arising not anly from those egrrementa but also from internatianrl law. It hae an &ligation not to allad ita territory to be uaad aa a epcin@oecd for sate of eggreseian againat another aOWttY. We were plwoed to hear the representative of Fhdurae esy that hie Goverlupent i8 prepared to resolve the present taituatl4n thcaugh bilateral and regional UhrMele. If tbrt i8 indeed the aa8er wby has his Govermmnt not responded to Presidmt Ortage’e propoesl to met with Preeident Asme &oyol Why have they not ruponded to the propoasl of Preoident Cereso of C&mtemla to hold as a matter of uegeney a meting of the Central Rruriaan Foreign Hinistetce, scheduled to take place on the 22 and 23 of this mntb in Guateala - a meting which may not be held in view of the fast that the Randursn Governmmt hse already fmid that it will not attend? The olesreet proof of the faleity of the sccuestions levelled by both the representatives3 of Emadurae and of the Dnited Eltatee to the effect that lOfcereguen troop0 are on Bunduran territory is the Ecmduran Govermmnt’s refusal ti receive a teahnical mieoicm of experti from the United ?&thaw and the Organizatim Of hr iun States (OM) to inVe8tiga3te the incident8 that took pleoe this week. Pf fimduras really feeti invaded, then why does it fear a visit to ita country and to Nicaeegua by a naut.rgl ~IMM~E~* & per*= l 2 I=& fr.b,- A&\= *.=:9,-g’: :f ~e~&~~;~ oan eaiss-51 iah +het there are Uicaraguan trcope on its territory, why does it not aCWpt today a Visit by international jojol;rnaliets TV the border -31‘88 on the Honduran side as Nicaragua all.o+Jed foreign nevspapermen and Nicaraguan reporters to a0 yesterday on its side to establish that our operations were In&cd limited to (He. Caaoo, Nicaragua) th defence of our territorial integrity an8 sovereignty? If the Government of i?aulurae ie sure, and not afraid of the falsity, of ite accusations, why doee it not agree to have the Support Group go to Eltor:durm to lcok into the charges levelled against my Government? My CbVEtCnmnt urge8 the CSoverNaent of Rm&ras to heed the international amity ‘a clallpur urging both our Governmente and the Government of the ullted 8Wxm to dieplay wiedom and prevent further bloodsbed and agree to having a technical mieeion frm the united #ations visit hie country end mine ti hnmstigate the ekuation prevailing there. I Aculd like to cay the following fn amnecticn with the etetemnte ra& by the repreeentstive of the United Stites. If the Government of the u1ited Stat430 truly desirea to support the peace ptawee in Central &eri~l), it ie not by eending Anrican young men to risk their livea in our etittled region; that ie no way to ~ugportpemce inCentcelweJrics. It is not by stepping up ite milibry peeence in 64nduras that it will -tribute to the peace efforts that we Central and fstin APericme in general have been amking, quite the contrary. It ie by abiding by the spirit end the letter of BeiqI.dpUlatI, ohi& OhoWe that there is an arrerriding need to end support to meroensry force8 and abandon ite intention of avert&wowing the 1egitilpat.e Gcwernment of Nicaragua. It should ptt an end to its policy of State terrorism which it ha8 been pxsuing in Nicaragua by its tseraenery foroee. That is how the united Statea can cartribute to peace in Central rbnr 4-s VC u.rC Qarrr .hm--c .&-a. A&- -^. A-. L-^ L-- .A---*AL-- --- --. -- -SC- .."co ..s.w &awn. U.Os. *a ~ILCI ‘saw ~wsza VIPCCWYL bay iiLG emhx3bd. X&I mly results have been suffering and terror brought upon the lagaufferhg Nicaraguan people. Zt must abide by the ruling of the International Court Of JWtlce of 27 June 1386, which calls on the ta‘rited Ststea to end it6 ~lawful and immral. p!.icies. That is lrclw it can contribute ti pace in Central (Ms. COSOO, Nicaragua) Pot th8t reafaa we urge the thited Ststee OQ9ernment, in partiauler President Reagan, to aaaept President Orlpge*e proposal, mm% laet Ootober in the bneral Assembly, to hold bileteral talJce aimed at a final solution to the existing differencm between our Governmnte. That is harJ we should poceed towards nasmalising our relations and contributing to the peace efforts being lpsde in Central her ica.
The President unattributed #141871
The representetive of Haduras has ashed to be allared m speak. I invite him to t&e a place at the Council table and to make his Otatemnt. MrfEEWMDEi3 CUXBRRO @on&was) (intsrpretation from Spanish) t I sm obliged to speak in reply to eom of the questione gut by the repemntative of Uicarague. E&tither the acaurstiorm mde by Ecndurse nor our forms1 denunaiation of Iearagw~s immeiar of Honduran territory should 00~8 ae any great eurpriee to her or, indeed, her Govermmt. This ia a justified position, for my awntry ham been tbo victim of an act of territorial viobtion by the Nicsrsguen Governrent. At no tiaa have we esid that the Governumt of Mcaragua has no intention of occupying or invading ilmduran tptritoryi quite the contrary. i&at aanduta8 bemnbs ie that Nicaragua withdrew from our territory all its troope who are still there toddy. That would be genuine proof of its ccnumftment to peace in the Central kuerican region. (Mr. Rernandao Alcerro, Rondurae) The Gowunrwnt of Niauagum ehould outainly not toll the CWmmment of Bar&a8 what type8 of denudetim it obould w&e. m two ibnounced tbie fnvmim, a8 we bme tRe expmtWmi8t aggreeeive attitude of the Nicaraguan Governmust - and not anly twarde y country, but barer& other countries nei&bouw of Uhurgub We aluo 8ay that NiCIM&gw haa not rbidbd by the 7 August 1987 agreemnte, not ha8 it&i&dby theaauty, tha aem-fire, the prooesseof national rea3adlietion. Quit41 the Qlbtruy, it ia trying to dierupt the entire regional peaa0 pr0ee.a. WB are pregered ta bold 8 rating of the mecutioe Ccmittee of the five Centrtkl A8eriaan Parotgn Ninimtua. fl6 muld agree to a meting in ~gucigalpa a0 ##r a8 the@mmcnmnt of Earduraa con mtebli8h that all Senbiniettroope heve been remwed fra, Etarbwan territory. The Pruaident of Wcaragua bae given that CoPittee the power toee~blisb the facts and ta dollar uptheI&quiprlaee If Agteu3ent. I do not knot ubetbu what we have beard here MQy from the repremmmtive of Nicaragua cantradiate the agreements rea&d m 16 January of thie year in S8n Joeb, Cacti IUca, rhenPreai&ntOrtiga amnittedhiarrelf. It ie not for us, Nicersgua '6 neighbours, to raeolve the internal problems of that COME. AS I eaid at the end of my statement, Nicaategue met make another conttibution to peaa in Central mmicat it rust gut an em3 to the internal conflict that prevail8 within it.a ee! hrrrrlrrew -_ --,. re -.mt. CSE 4.r --l-L-. *ba m-*-b,. I’r k.ii5L yive nu juotification for ~icataquans taking up weapcbne. It must demcmtize tie country and enter tit0 dialogue with ita people and not try physically to eliminate licaraquan qqoeitfon. TRe internal conflict that has existed for the pest 7 years in Nicaragua has cdverse1.y affected all the Central American mmtries t and principally my oountry, (Mt. liernandez Alcerto, Hondurae) because that carfliothaa overflawed into Rmduraa and other Central Ametiaan ~Mtti08. Nicaragua mat demonstrate ita good faith and faithfully abide by the aadtmente it has entered into. ‘Re wauld urge the Gooermmt of Nicaragua not only to heed the clanxxu of the intematiaml amity but to heed the clamour of its own pmple - its own people, who wantonly paa= and free&m. It amet aeek reomcilietion with the people of Uiausgua, with those dto, in their yearnings for peace and freedum, have seen anly military actions aucb am thosa being proaptbd at tbe present tima by the Ssndinista Gwulumt. Tham peaplehave slsowitneased peraeaJtiona and the imprisonment of oppmenntr,. I too would like to ask a few queatiars of the representative of Nicarsguar Are we to aumidu that the military operatiosre of the Sandiniat People93 Army are S siq8 of political willingness to aarry out a geoaeaa of reconciliation, to which it is mawitted? I aboulalike to knowwhether peace,uhich is lacking in Wicaregu~, ehould be sou@ in rhewtoric in international organisations? I should like to know &ether ooaritting acts of aggression against neighbouring countries and mnoentisting ttoape slang the borders of nei@bauZing counuiee ought to be oiwedas another oartributicm to peace in Central Americe? 1 ahodd like M knar whether this contributes to end is in keeping with the agreements eigned by the Presidennts of Central American countries at the Eaquipulaa II Bus&it );eeting? I should like to knad whether the international ~-+4+v &narlA SW l.-~~a+ 4~~~4at +hrt ~4~nrnntw~ ko &acr+tfza~ d that the -- ----- --- ---=- -_--_ _-_ -------=-- -- atmeaty to whi& it ia -mitted be granted? I should like to knar if it intend0 ti carry Out in good fsith the cease-fire negotiationa, to promte reaonciliation, ot Should we'focus OCR attention solely on blooil&!hcd in Nicaragua and Central America at large an the path to peace? It would Reem that that ie the path the Mr. OKUN (tmited Stoteb of Amriua) a lh have lietaned to this quite emwing statement by the regresantstive of Nimtagua, and through all of the charges I think me might dieoern bo gokrts. First, rrtoganae toward8 flmIurae, in that the Niaarsgusn representative eouqht to epeak for iianduraa and epoke quiti a lot about that - but the Nanduran repremmtative ha8 spoken for Me cm awntry. &icawJly, finger-pointing tararda my own country. But Eawlurae and the United States and the other countries in the reqion all knar am thinga the problem L not be-wean Wioaragus and the thited State& The problemis thstoftheSandintet8arith their ampeopleand tieit annei*boure. Therefore, it cannot be solved by meting8 between Presidents alone. A country ruled by the SandinLtrr Party, which praotiees mere&cm at ham and paati~~ee aggressian sbrd, will met resietan~, and the 8mGnnLta Mmini8ttation has mt that resietsnoe end will amtinue to met that reaimtinmt. It its not the thaited Sbtes alaw that is the cause of the prabletae, h-ever u& the LOiaaraguaM rrey pretend that it ie. We have hear& this ebted elapuently here at the table, and I #imply would like tomake that point, that the lhited Statea standa for peace in this area and when the Sfmdinista rdginm chooses TV make peaoe with ib domtetic opposition and cease8 to create problem for its neighboura, them and only then will peeve am to the area. The PRBBIDE#T$ There are no further apeekste inacribetd on my liet. The next meting of the gecurity Council to carthue coneide2ation of the item On it8 agenda will be fixed in ooneultatione with mders of the Council. Before adjourning the meeting I should like to remind me&era of the COU~C~ that we shall hsve informal amsultatione inamdietely after this meting. ~_rj._... _.. . ...,*,.., - a - 1
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