S/PV.293 Security Council

Friday, May 7, 1948 — Session 3, Meeting 293 — UN Document ↗ OCR ✓ 17 unattributed speechs
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The agenda was adopted.

52. Continuation of the discussion on the Palestine question

At the invitation of the President, Mahmoud Bey Fawzi, representative of Egypt; Mr. Malik, . representative of Lebanon; lamal Bey Husseini, the representative of the Arab Higher Commit- tee, and Mr. Eban, the representative of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, took their places at the Security Council table.
"The Security Council,
1. Questions to Egypt, Saudi ArabiaJ Trans- jordan, Iraq, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon:
The President unattributed #142489
The United States representative's statement will appear, in any case, in the verbatimrecord wmch you will receive in due course tomorlOW moming. 1 think, however, that if the Secretariat can reproduce it at once, it could be cÏrculated during this meeting.. Mr. EL-KHOURI (Syria): 1 do not think we should be called to comment upon and discuss tb.e statement we have just heard, without first . having the time to read it in order to see wh:ü is intended. 1 refer especially to the questions which were proposed by the ,rêpresentative of the United States. Furthermore, l' think we met today in accordance with the suggestions made at the last meeting of the Security Council [292nd meeting] by the representatives of Colombia, Argentina, and other States, in conjunction with my suggestion, to study the international status of Palestine. 1 thought this meeting would be limïted to that question,. and to no other. Wei"e we to continue this procedure, it would be very us~ful to have a good understanding regarding the international status of Palestine, so that -the Security Council might be in a position to judge the situation at the end. If the Presidel1t wishes the discussion to be confined to the proposaIs presented today by the representative of the United States, 1 think we must have sorne tune to think them over, and, in respect to many of them, it would be .. necessary to consult our Governments.
The President unattributed #142491
l obviously 4ave no intention of asking the Se~ curity Council to take an immediate decision on the resolution just submitted by the United States representative. We shall .aIl certainly have to consider the proposaI and shaH probably want Ml'. EL-KHOURI (Syria): 1 have heard nothing new regarding the situation in Jerusalem. May 1 suggest that if the President has any fresh information on' the subject it would be useful if he wOllld advise the Ser.urity CouDcil of its nature? Ml', LOPEZ (Colombia): As 1 understand the position, we are not meeting today for the purpose of àiscussing the ÏJ.,ternational status of Palestine exclusively. That was only one of three matters which came up for discussion last Saturday [292nd meeting] and 1.believe that we were to discuss. first of aIl today the question of the Truce Commission. Some suggestions have been madenot only in connexion with the work of that Commission but aIso as to its composi- " tion. 1 notice that in accordance with the terms of th~ resolution submitted by the representative of the United States this afternoon, this Truce Commission is again requested to report to the Security Council on the compliance with th{; cease-fire Qi'ders by the parties in Palestine. 1 am strongly of the opinion that we should begin to discu...~ the proposaIs submitted by the representa,tive of the United States, even if only in a preliminary way, and it seems to me that we cannot postpone consideration of this threat to, and breach of, the peace, whether it cornes within the meaning of Article 39 or of any other provision of the Charter. The' situation as it stand~ today requires urgent consideration and therefore, as 1 have said, 1 believe that we should discuss these proposaIs. To begin with, in addition to the matter of the Truce Commissi0n and its composition, . to which 1 have already referred, 1 would l'aise the question as to whether we should Dot consider ,appointing a mediation commission, and whether we should not give this new,commission the task of acting as a truce commÏ3sion and of exploring the possibility of hringing about an understanding between the two parties, without prejudice to the information for which the representative of the United States has very properly suggested that we should calI.. ,1 should like to add that the idea of this new commission springs from the fact that the five permanent members of. the Security Council were ex~ected, according to the' resolution of 14 May,'to appoint a Mediator in Palestine. As
The President unattributed #142492
1 shall first call on the reprcsentative of the Argentine to speak, and shall then answer the Colombian representative's question. Mf. ARCE (Argentina) (traTlslated trom Spanish): 1 wi"h to submit three matters for the Cmmcil's consideration. The first has just been mentioned by the representative of Colombia, namely, the General Assembly's resulution calling for the appointmen.. of a Mediator to be chosen by the five permanent members of the Security Council. 1 do not know whether this has been done. Next, 1 should like to place on record a telegram 1 have received; 1 presume that it has aIso been received by the Secretary·-General and i., known to the President. According to this communication, before leaving Jerusalem, Sir Alan Cunningham, the British High Commissioner, appointed the Municipal Commissioner as provided by the Assembly. 1 recolle<:t that as President of the Assembly 1 signed, together with the Secretary-Geneml, a telegram giving the name of MI'. Evans for that post, and suggesting that until he reached Jerusalem, MI'. Azcarate, who was in Jerusalem, could fill the position. It is now known that the British High Commissiom:r appointed both these persons. The third matter concerns the instructions to the Truce Commission in Palestine to try to gel in touch with Arab and Jewish representatives in order to see whether arrangements could be made for a general tmce. We have now received a communication from the Commission consisting of three Consuls informing us that it has been able to make contact with only one of the parties. Perhaps the Secretary-General could give us further information. These are the three matters to wilich 1 wished to draw the Council's attention. 1 consider the last one.to be of particular interest.
The President unattributed #142493
1 shall begin by answering the Argentine representative's first question, which was aIso raised by the Colombian representative, and shall then ask the Secretary-General to give us some explanation in answer to the other two questions just raised by the Argentine representative. The first question concerns the appoilltment of a Mediator whose nomination was provided for by a General Assembly decision. In accordance with that decision the permanent members of the Security Council met just before the present meeting to exchange views. Two names were put forward, and it was agreed that· the 1 now call on the Secretary-General to be sa kind as to give us some clarification on the other two points.
AU the information which the Secretariat has received has been distributed to the members of the Security Council. Only two new telegrams have been received. They are not of much importance, but copies of them will be distributed. In regard to Mr. Evans and- Mr. Azcarate, 1 received a message from the United Kingdom delegation today, for my information. l distributed copies of this message to the Presidçnt and the members of the Security Council. Mr. Evans is making preparations for his departure, 1 and 1 hope he willleave this week for Palestine. As the members understand, transportation ar-I rangements are difficult. However, 1 hope that we shaH get him tothe right spot very soon. Meanwhile, Mr. Azcarate is functioning as the Commissioner for Jemsalem, and he is now there. He was in Amman on 14 May, in consultation with King Abdullah and the authorities there. He returned to Jerusalem on 15 May and has been there s;,nce that time. We have now established very g~.: 1 teIecommunication contact with Mr. Azci11ate. He is in contact with the Truce Commission. TeIegrams are now coming in rapidly over the United States wire-' less station. This is aIl the information 1 can give the Security Council at this time.
The President unattributed #142496
. In regard to the Syrian representative's question concerning the situation in Jerusalem, 1 was alluding to the 8\eneral Press news which we have been receiving from minute to minute, as weIl as to certain information which 1 received from our Consul. One particularly characteristic piece of information was received through the United States Consul, to the effect that the radio station at the French Consulate had been destroyed, or at least damaged, and that several persans attached to the French Consulate had been wounded. The first question jg how t'O organize the Council's work. 1 do not think we shall be able to discuss the United States draft resolution at our present meeting, but 1 believe we should devote it to the consideration of the other questions which were raised last Saturday and have just been brought up again. If you agree to this, We know that military operations are still going on in Palestine ~d it is obvious that the Security Couneil must, first of all, deal with the situation which has arisen in Palestine and not with other questions, although they may be of ,interest. It goes without saying that such questions are secondary in comparison with the fundamental issue raised in the above-mentioneà communications. The USSR delegation considers that the Security Council should take a decision calling for the cessation of military operations in Palestine. ünly such a decision would meet the situation now existing there. What 1 have said about the statements made by the representatives of Syria and Colombia, 1 could also repeat ·with regard to the statement made by the President, if 1 have understood him correctIy. The President has suggested that the Security Council should not consider the question which has arisen in connexicm with the deveIopment of military operations in Palestine, but should deal with sorne other questions which may be of interest but which, as 1 have aIready said, should be regarded as being secondary in comparison with the fundamentai question.
The President unattributed #142497
Does the USSR representative wish ta make a proposaI to the Security Council? Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated trom Russian): When a representative in the Council has a proposaI to make, he usually puts it forward. The Security Council already has a proposaI before it.
The President unattributed #142499
If 1 have understood our USSR colleague correctIy, he would like the United States proposaI to he discussed at once. Is that correct? Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated trom Russian): It would be desirable for the Security Council not only to examine the question, but to take a decision calling for the cessation of military operations h., Palestine; there is no need for delay if the Security Council is ready. Mr. VAN LANGENHOVE (Be1gium) (translated trom French) : The situation seems to me to be th~: certain members of the Council appear to he able to take a decision on the United States proposaI at once and, if 1 am not militaken, our USSR coUeague is one of them. Other members are less fortuuate. 1 believe, howev~r, t.'at it would be extremely interesting both for them and their Governments to hear the views of those members of the Council who are in. a position to state mem.
The President unattributed #142500
1 think that the Belgian representative's suggestion is wisest. The United State::. delegation's draft resolution touches the crucial point of the question, namely, what action the Security Counci! could take. As far aS this matter cau he discussed immediately, it should be given priority, since it is inherently the essential problem. If any time remains after the discussion of this point, we shall consider the other questions which are obviously connected with this one, in which case we shall come to the legal questions and those raised by the Colombian representative. 1 therefore caU on those of my coUeagues who are in a position to state their views on the United States draft resolution at once, to do so. Would anyone like to speak on the first point just raised by the USSR representativer Mr. LOPEZ (Colombia): It is true that the essential thing which the Security Counci! has to discuss is what action it could or should take. But then there is another question, namely, whether it can take any action. 1 believe it is very pertinent to ask that question because, apparently, it has been takenf(' granted that the question of the Truce Commission which has been raised is quite a secondary one. 1 respectfully beg to cilffer. 1 should like to point out that today we are having very evident confirmation of what we said on Saturday [292nd meeting]. We are getting more information in regard to what is happening in Palestine, but we are not getting it from the Truce Commission. The President has given us new information and the Secretary- General has given us some additional iriformation. It is beginning to intrigue me as to why we get information from êvery possible source except from the Truce Commission. Ànother point is this. So far we have seen Î..11 the Security Council and in the General Assembly that the permanent members of the Council 1 ~elieve it is extremely important ta know how we are going ta proceed and whether the Security Council will have someone on the spot on whose infonnation it can depend. 1 very respectfully submit that this matter is not of secondary importance, but is of the utmost importance.
The President unattributed #142504
Before calling on the Egyptian representative who wishes ta speak, 1 should like, with his permission, ta make two remarks on the Colombian representative's observations. 1 shall begin by asking members not to presume that the five permanent members of the Security Council will fail ta agree on a Mediator. 1 think they will be able to agree, aIl the more sa as the Committee of the five permanent members was set up by the General Assembly, and as unanimous agreement of the members of this Committee is not required for the choice they have to make. My second remark concerns the Tn::e Commission. The latter was undoubtedly prevented from communicating with us because its Chairman tried ta get in touch with the two parties with whom we had instructed him ta consult, and more especially because he left Jerusalem for Hamma. During his absence the Commission ceased ta exist as such. The serious aspect in this affair, 1 think, is that the Commission, which was instructed to assist us in effecting a truce for the whole of Palestine, is at present in Jerusalem. Had we been able ta prevent fighting in Jerusalem, it might have been the best place, or at least as good a place as any other, from which to observe events and to get in touch with both parties. Unfortunately the General Assembly ln view of the way in whieh events are developing in Palesl3ne, we cannot hope to receive official information on all of them. No matter where our Commission may be, it will probably never see more than a minute part of what is happening. . Mahmoud Bey FAWZI (Egypt) : In connexion with the statements made by the last four speake.rs-and especially with that made by the representative of the USSR, who called not only for an immediate discussion of the matter, but also suggested that a decision on the draft resolution l'''esented by the representative of the United S'tates be taken-I should most respectfully submit that one or Ùe other of the organs of the United Nations made mistakes on certain occasions, although they had almost complete information at their disposal and were given ample opportur.ity to discuss and ponder the matter. Therefore, in view of the fact that the matter we have before us is so sericus, we must be allowed at least a minimum of time to discuss and ponder the matter, and we must have the elements and the atmosphere necessary for taking a decî.-sion. We must have, for example, the te..x.t of the draft resolution submitted by the :epres~ntativ~ of the United States. Also, we must have at our disposal much more than the fragmentary information which we Lave in our possession at the pr~.sent moment. Then, all.hough 1 am not fond of the idea, we should indulge in all sorts of details with respect to the legal matters involved, and 1 think we should know what Palestine is today, internationally speaking. We cannot make a sound, safe and legal decision without knowing that. We must know what Palestine is, at the present moment, in the family of nations. We also have to know what sort of State it is, or whether it is aState.' Of course, this will seriously and basieally affect any opinion we might reach. Therefore 1 do not quite grasp the idea which was suggested that we discuss the draft resolution ~ubmitted by the United States nrst, that we give it priority, and that, if pel'chance sorne time is left for other matters, we can then have a look at them. Of course such an idea is plausible, but 1 submit that it migh: Îlot be quite exact from the practical point of view. This is not. a matter whereby we can siinply say that the subject suggested by the draft reso'iution of the United States is of a very urgent nature-and it might well be. However, in order ta form an opinion
The President unattributed #142506
The Egyptian representative's statement again raises t..'le question of our meth<?d of work. We have not yet exhausted the question of the Truce CoIIlIDÏfJsion, and 1 think we had better return to it. Since, however, the Egyptian representative has reverted to the United States draft resolution, 1 should like to make a' remark. 1 have just received the text of this draft resolution, and it seems to me, in the light of the statement just made by Mr. Austin, that he is suggesting that the Security Council should immediately begin to study the questions wh~ch he proposes should be put to the Governments concerned. 1 believe that if we are to put questions to the various Governments, the Security Council could perhaps study them at once, and take a decision on them. We would not be committingourselves deeply, since these are questions to be put to the parties concerned. 1 therefore suggest this to you and, if you agree, we shaIl study this point and come back afterwards to the question of the Truce Commission. 1 believe this suggestion is in line with the statement made by the USSR representative a short while ago. . Mr. GROVYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): If the Security Council is not ready to take a decision today, we could meet tomorrow. Mr. LOPEZ (Colombia): 1 believe that before the Security Council does anything eIse, it should consider the matter just presented by the President, that is, whether the Security Council agrées to bis sentling out these questions to the different parties. 1 do not believe there would be any objection, and we would be gaining time if we request the President of the Security Council to send out three or four telegrams and bring these matters to a head as soon as possible; then the Security Council could proceed to consider the other matters. . Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist :Republics) (translated from Russian): 1 doubt whether thé Security Couneil must wait for the replies to the questions dl'afted by the United - States representative before taking a decision. 1 think the Seeurity Couneil can take an appropriate deeision without waiting for the replies to Mr. AUSTIN (United States of America): 1 believe it is an inadvertence that 1 couched this statement in language that might be interpreted as ~ condition. 1 do not intend that. 1 do not think that the Securlty Couneil should be under the veto, as it were, of these parties, so that they could withhold their answers and thus postpone our action. 1 take no such position. My position is that the Security Council should act, and act just as promptly as the member States are able ta advise their representatives on the Security Council. If a vote could be take!} today, 1 would he for taking it and obtaining the answers to these questions, too. Except in the case of the Arab Higher Committee and the Government of Israel, these questions are addressed to Member States and they are bound by the Charter to co-operate with ml and ta furnish us the answers. The Security Council is. calling upon them to perform their Charter duty in this regard. Therefore, my answer is: No, it is not intended ta suspend the decision of the Security Council by an understanding that these auswers must be in before the Security Council acts. If the Security Cauncil can act within a reasonable time; it ought to do it whether the answers are here or not.
The President unattributed #142509
ln the light of the answer just given, the situation is just this: the purpose of the questionnaire is ta provide the Security Council with the most complete information, but in such a serious " matter, we cannot delay either ofir discussion or the order of work until we receive the replies. ls there any need to discuss the questionnaire part by part, or do you agree to deal with its three parts as a whole? Is there any objection to this questionnaire being sent? , . Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): 1 completely fail to understand the procedure the President suggests. He proposes that we should discuss the quest:ons drafted by the repres~ntative of the Unite. States. Replies ta these questions must he given by those ta whom the questions are addressed. The questions themselves should not be a subject of discussion here. Replies must he received fro~ those to whom these questions
The President unattributed #142512
1 apologize to the representative of the USSR if 1 did not quite understand bis remarks. In order that the questions may be answered they must fust be put. In arder that they may be put, we must take' a decision ta do sa. 1 simply wanted to ask the Security Council whether it wisheil to put these questions, which is a condition precedent to their being answered. If the USSR representative fears that the questionnaires are being sent to de1ay the discussion, 1 èan assure him that that is certainly not my intention and, as a meeting of the Security Council is fixed for tomorrow in any case, we will of necessity return to the discussion of the Palestine question which is the most urg~nt of aIl. Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian) : If it is difficult for the President ta understand me, 1 can assure him that it is even more difficult for me ta understand bis statement.
The President unattributed #142514
1 do not think that 1 am responsible for the difficulty. Mr. ARCE (Argentina) (translated from Spanish): If it is desired to take a decision regard~g the dispatch of the communication in question, 1 ask that a {ormal vote be taken, so that my delegation can put its position on record. 1 would aIso like to point out that although the French representative does not understand the remarksof the USSR representative, and the USSlt l'epresentative, in turn, does not understand the statements of the representative of France, there is one thing that we aIl easily understand; and that is that none of the representatives wish to speak on the question of substance. That is the truth, and it is not rig:"t to try ta mystify the listening' public by making it. believe that we are discussing a question of procedure. We are discussing how we can avoid speaidng, how we can say nothing. This seems ta be a paradox, but paradoxes are often the best indication of the state of mind of people. It is evident that the Security Council could not, at.present, take a decision on the questions on thé agenda. Egypt, and the Arab and Jewish Moreover, any decision of this nature would require unanimity, and I, who a few days ago said that it was not possible to ask for another .war in order that the five great Powers might reach agreement, can now see that even when war appears to have broken out, the great Powers continue to disagree. One of them has submitted a draft resolution and has declared itself prepared to have it considered and voted upon immediately; we have been told that by Ml'. Austin. The representative of the USSR, on the other hand, who wanted, the question of substance considered today, has spoken haH a dozen times on procedural matters, but has not expressed his views on the substance of the question. As for the other three permanent members of the Council, we know nothing of their position in this respect. Thus, if there is no agreement between the permanent members-and 1 somehow suspect that there will not be-discussion is useless; and for that reason 1 am opposed to reconsidering the matter tomorrow, for tomorrow we should again try not to discuss the substance of the question and, naturally, should not reach any decision. 1 repeat that we can do nothing until the other four great Powers state their position on the draft submitted by the United States of America. 1 am willing to speak on procedure but, if possible, 1 wish to be the last to express an opinion on the question of substance, if 1 express any opinion on it at aIl. Let us admit the truth: fo~r permanent members of the Council do not wish to express thdr views on the substance of this draft resolutiof! and the representative of the United States has been the only one to take up a clear and concrete position by submitting a resolution and stating his willingness for ~ decision to be taken on it. My own opinion is that until the positiem of the other four great Powers is known, we had better go home and attend to the affairs of our delegations or embassies, read a good book, or do anything that i5 really useful ana, if possible, of service to the world. 1 repeat, therefore, that as we are weIl a;ware, no one has any doubt that none of the four great Powers wishes to express an opinion on the draft submitted by the United States representative. Mr.TsIANG (China): 1 hope that the President will not press us to authorjze him to dispose of these questions tonight. The questions are . numerous; their meaning is not quite clear. My de1egation may wish to pro~e changes or additions. However, 1 think it would be right and. praper for the President to set'a time limite We cannot evade these question'!. The Security Council should not try to evade questions or decisious; therefore,a time limit would be proper. However, to ask us to authorize the President to dispose of these questions right away is not, 1 think, giving the delegations the fair opportunity for consideration that t.qey should have. There is another point 1 would like to make in regard to these questions. It is clear that we could not'confer the .right of veto upon any of the parties to whofr!. we are to put the questions. The fact that they did not reply could not possibly prevent us from further action. But as 1 study these questions, 1 see that they are pertinent to the situation. These are not questions to which we give just a cursory examination. They are questions intended to help ~. arrive at a proper solution of the problem. If that is so, it is orny reasonable that we should allow the parties a reasonable amount of time to give us a reply. We could address these questions to the parties, and then, whether they send us a reply or not, we must go ahead and make our decision. Otherwise, it would make our prôceedings rather childish. Therefore, 1 suggest that the President give us a little time, that the President fi.."'C a time limit and that we should give our authorization for the disposing of these questions and also allow the parties a reasonable amount of time tO send us their replies. The PRESIDENT- (translated trom French): .I should like to ask the Chïnese representative what time limit he has in mind. Mr. TSIANG (China): It appeRrs to me that if we are to send out these questions at all, we should send them out no later than before the end of our next meeting. 1 think that we should allow at least forty-eight hours for the replies. Mr. EL-KHOURI (Syria): 1 wish to say a few words about these questions. On a first reading, 1 notice a significance in them to the effect that . the .spor..sors or authors of these questions have the intention of dragging the Sel'urity Council into a tacit recognition, wiilio..!; saying 30 openly, of the Jewish State which has been proclaimed. There are many things in these questions which would indicate that to be the case. That question is worded as if it intends to say that all the operations which ~!l:ay be carried on within th~~ area are allowed.. And then the question says, in effect, "You can tell us if you have forces outside that area." What area does the United States delegation mean? Is it the area that was mentioned in the partition plan? The Security Council did not agree that the partition plan was to be implemented or respected. Also, the General Assembly' itself abandoned the partition plan. The partition plan picked 1 October for the proclamation of a Jewish State and an Arab Stafe in Palestine. Now that such an action has been taken prematurely, the representative of the United States has not condescended to ask a question such as: "On what legal basis have you proclaimed aState whichyou call the State of Israel?" The United States delegation did not put such a question. The United States delegation did ask the Arab States the following question: "Who is now responsible for the exercise of political functions in the Arab areas of Palestine?" What is meant by "Arab areas"? The idea seems to be to have these questions asked by, the Security Council, thereby having the Council recognize that Palestine is divided into two areas, a Jewish area and an Arab area, and that aIl our action in the future will be measured accordingly; but this is not the case. We consider that Palestine is one area, and that there are, not two 'areas in Palestine. In respect to the political aspect of the question which was raised on Saturday [292nd meeting], 1 said that we should first study the international status of Palestine, and if the representatives have any doubts about what 1 mentioned, 1 would suggest that the matter be submitted to the International Court of Justice. 1 would suggest that the International Court of Justice be asked if the situation in Palestine is in accordance with what is stated in the draft r.=solution submitted today by the representative of the United States, that is, tllat thefe is a. "threat ta the peace and a breach of the peace". Is the "peace" now existing in Palestine supposed to be threatened or breached? Is it "international peace"/ and is it provided in the Charter that the Security Council beseized of thisquestion? 1 am not sure as to what were the intentions · of the authors of these questions in framing them. If, as 1 suppose, it was intended to bring the Security·Council into a tadt endorsement of recognition of the State of Israèl, to· present us with a fait accompli, we certainly do not accept that. If that is not so, the questions should be. . framed in another way. 1. have no nbjection to qu.estions being addressed to the parties concerned, but they should be questions without any .arrière-pensée, questions without intentions that are not honest. In accordance with what the representative of China has said, 1 believe·that we .should be given at least twenty-four hours to consider these questions, and ta try to frame them in a legal, just and equitable manuer, sa as not to' commit anyone, nor ta prejudice the positions, daims and rights of the parties, as has been stated several times bythe representative of the United States..At the end of the next meeting, these questions can he accepted by the Security Council and can be addressed to the parties concerned, and those parties can give their answers directly tothe President of the Security Council through the Secretary-General. The representatives of these States here need not, as therepresentative of the United States has said, give their replies. It is not possible for them to do so. Not aIl the States are represented here, and not aIl of them have representatives at Lake Success. These communications should he sent by the President of the Security Council directly to the parties con~erned, and the answers should· come directly ta the Security Council. 1 am not sure whether the forty-eight hours suggested by the representative of China would be enough, becauSe these are questions which ought to be studied by the Governmentsand parties concerIied. For these communicatio11$ to be sent to their destinations and returned, will take a long time. 1 do not think that the frequent mention here of the urgency of the situation is ofgreat use. It is now more than one month since the Security Council issued a series of resolutiollS for a truce, a cease-fire, and sa forth, but they have not stopped anything.If the Jews are permitted ·to.do anythihg they wish·within the area which If the Arabs are to be asked to cease fire and to remain where they are, who will take care of the 200,000 refugees and rehabilitate them in their homes? Who will take care of their belongings and their wrecked homes? Who· will take care of all these matters in thè areas claimed by the Jews in Palestine? ln the past month the Jews have cOlltinued to dû many things against the truce resolution of the Security COUlll;il, and now another resolution will be added to the previous series. Are we sure it will have any effect? 1 do not believe sa, since we have the precedents of the pasto It is better to be firm and to study the matter seriously and tr.orougWy, and adopt reasonable and legal resolutions which may be executed and which may be obeyed. Any resolution which is not based on legality and which is con.tested by the palt.ies as not being legal, equitable or just cannot be implemented without difficulty or bloodshed. Implementation has to be carried out by force, and it is certainly not correct to adopt resolutions of that kind.
The President unattributed #142515
There are still two speakers on my list. 1 propose that the Council adjourn till tomorrow morning. A'l the Chinese representative has asked for a very short time in which to consider the question, it could be taken up tomorrow morning. It is my intention ta complete this examination tomorrow morning; should it take long it would be better to abandon the idea of sending the questionnaire. MahmoudBey FAWZI. (Egypt): 1 had a rather long statement to make, but since the President is thinking of adjouming this meeting, 1 shall be very brief. 1 shaH deal with two points onIy, and 1 shall be able to do that quite briefly in view of the fact that the representative of Syria has said the greater part of what 1 intended to say. The tirst point' was mellltioned by the representative of Syria, the reprCSf:ntative of China, and other representatives, namely that, despite the urgency of studying the questions which have been placed before the Security Council, we should be allowed some time for reflection. These questions might be of a prejudicial nature. They involve various matters, ranging from the mere1y formaI to the fundamentally serious, and we should be allowed a minimum of time in order Ml'. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): It is not quite clear ta me why it is necessary to examine these questions. They are not clear to the representative of China and he apparently wishes to study them from a legal point of view. 1 think that, as these questions have already been asked, we should agree today that those to whom these ouestions have been addressed should now prepare appropriaté replies. 1 see nothing obscure in. these questions as such. 1 do not understand why it should be necessary for anyone to re-draft them. 1 think they have been drafted quite clearly, and 1 feel, therefore, that there is no need ta waitfor the next meeting. We can already sayat today's meeting that the questions have been drafted and that the Govemments concemed must reply to them. Therefore, we should agree to consider these questions, after today's meeting, as having been officially put ta the Govemm"ents concerned. There is no need for any special baptism in arder ta call them "questions". As regards our next meeting, 1 think that if there is no objection, we should meet tomorrow.
The President unattributed #142516
Are there any mOrt: remarks on this matter? If the USSR representative's proposaI for an immediate discussion is not seconded, 1 suggest that we meet tomorrow moming at 10.30 a.m. ta continue the consideration of the questionnaire. As 1 have already said, it is my intention ta complete the discussion of the questionnaire in the morning. The other question of a time limit will aIso he considelied tomorrow morning. Ml'. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian): 1 do not understand the President's statement. 1 merely say that the questions have already been drafted and that there is no need for the Security Council to take a special decision at its next meeting in arder ta dispatch them to the Governments concemed. Let us agree i..~ today's meeting that wc consider that these questions should be . . Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom): A member of the Security Council has asked for a short delay in which to stlldy these questions, which, after aIl, were presented to us only this afternoon. 1 should have thought that the Security Council would have liked to accord that delay. That is the usual thing, l think, when a member of the Security Council asks for a shott delay. We aIl do that in our tum--even Ml'. Gromyko, sometimes-and it îs always granted. Meanwhile, there are certain of the parties present at the Council table, and no ooubt aIl of these proceedings will be published. The questions in their present form will be seen by aIl those to whom it is proposed ta address them, and 1 hope that they will set to work to start drafting their replies. If the questions are changed, if the drafting of the questions is altered, they can adjust their replies accordingly. 1 hope that n'le Council will resume tomorrow the discussion and examination of these questions.
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