S/PV.3502 Security Council
Adoption of the agenda
The agenda was adopted.
The situation concerning Rwanda Report of the Secretary-General pursuant to paragraph 5 of Security Council resolution 955 (1994) (S/1995/134)
The Security Council will now begin its consideration of the item on its agenda. The Security Council is meeting in accordance with the understanding reached in its prior consultations.
Members of the Council have before them the report of the Secretary-General pursuant to paragraph 5 of Security Council resolution 955 (1994), document S/1995/134.
Members of the Council also have before them document S/1995/148, which contains the text of a draft resolution prepared in the course of the Council’s prior consultations.
It is my understanding that the Council is ready to proceed to the vote on the draft resolution before it. Unless I hear any objection, I shall put the draft resolution to the vote.
There being no objection, it is so decided.
I shall first call on those members of the Council who wish to make statements before the voting.
My delegation thanks the Secretary-General for his report on the implementation of paragraph 5 of Security Council resolution 955 (1994). As members know, the establishment of an international tribunal was at the explicit request of the Rwandan Government, and in the interest of establishing justice and the rule of law, which had been lacking in our country since 1959.
The key points in the minds of the Government and the people of Rwanda included neither punishment nor vengeance, but rather justice: the establishment of the rule of law, in other words, the establishment of a basis for breaking the vicious circle of impunity that had prevailed in the country for over 35 years. Members will recall that
I should like to recall here that one of the reasons that could have prompted my delegation to vote against that resolution — which we ourselves had requested — was the question of the location of the seat of the International Tribunal for Rwanda. The Tribunal should sit in Rwanda given that it is a tribunal for judging Rwandans. In fact, the people of Rwanda, like all peoples of the world, need to see justice done for their sons and daughters. The Germans, the French, the Jews and the other peoples of the world did, notably after the Second World War. We cannot see why this right should be denied the Rwandans, a people who wish to use justice as a foundation for national unity following the genocide of 1994, for reconstructing a country destroyed by injustice. But also, and more importantly, how will the survivors of the genocide and the butchers forgive if they do not see justice done?
For practical reasons, my delegation believes that shifting the seat of the Tribunal away from Rwanda will entail mobilizing immense resources to ensure that the guilty are there to be tried and for travel and subsistence costs for witnesses and plaintiffs. My delegation is afraid that the International Tribunal for Rwanda will make a very poor showing indeed, given that Rwanda has no resources and the Organization is always complaining about the lack of finance.
The Government of Rwanda has already decided to work with the International Tribunal and support it as it wishes to cooperate to the extent that cooperation is possible and to the extent that the interests of the Rwandan people are not put at risk. Within this framework of cooperation, my delegation, while preferring the seat of the Tribunal to be in Rwanda, is not opposed to its being located in a neighbouring country and close to Rwanda in order to minimize the effects I mentioned of its being outside the country.
My delegation takes this opportunity to thank Tanzania, which, in Arusha, will once again play a historic and symbolic role for Rwanda. My delegation shares the concern expressed by the Secretary-General in paragraph 42 of his report (S/1995/134) about the justice and fairness the International Tribunal needs. None the less, the fact that this argument has been used in favour of relocating the Tribunal outside Rwanda does not mean that my delegation agrees with it in any way. Our
I should like to conclude by thanking the Secretariat’s Office of Legal Affairs, which regularly contacted my delegation about the International Tribunal. Given Rwanda’s current situation, such contacts are necessary and facilitate cooperation. I should like to recall that the concern for justice in Rwanda shown by the Security Council implies that serious thought must be given to support for the Rwandan courts competent to supplement the work of the Tribunal.
I shall now put draft resolution S/1995/148 to the vote.
A vote was taken by show of hands.
There were 15 votes in favour. The draft resolution has been adopted unanimously as resolution 977 (1995).
There are no further speakers. The Security Council has thus concluded the present stage of its consideration of the item on its agenda.
The Security Council will remain seized of the matter.
Vote:
S/1995/134
Recorded Vote
The meeting rose at 10.45 a.m.