S/PV.374 Security Council

Thursday, Oct. 28, 1948 — Session None, Meeting 374 — UN Document ↗ OCR ✓ 12 unattributed speechs
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The President unattributed #148231
We are now dealing with the draft resc1ution eubmitted by the representatiyes of China and the United Kingdom. Is the Couneil ready to vote upon the request? Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom) : ln order to clarify H, may [ say that as far as 1 am concerned 1 would accept those changes just suggested by th~ Acting Mediator, that is, that the fourth paragraph should .read, .< Endo1"Ses the request" and that it should end with the words oc to the positions the) ùccupield on 14 October, with a view to the establishment of a permanent truce line". As far as 1 am concerned, accept that.
The President unattributed #148235
l,cali upon the re'presentative of China to enquire of his reaction to this change. Ml'. TSIANG{China): l aœept buth changes.
The President unattributed #148238
Then the draft resolution, as at pre-sent constituted, contains the second paragraph which would read : " Endor;;es the request communicated ta the GoveTIl!l!lent of EgyJt and the Provisional Government -of Israel by the Acting Media'tor on 26 Odober, caW-g for a withdrawal {'f mUbHY ft-.c.ces to the ,positions they occùpied on 14 October, with a view to the ,e'st&blishment of a permanent truce line." Mr. PARODI (France) (translated trom French) : The answcr -given to my question does not seem ta be quite as clear as should have liked. This ls no douM due ta 'the existing situation being iboth complicated and confused. No douM, there could be no diff.erent answer. (traduit fication trième rempla.cé tion mande l,e le fier ou ne la Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom) : ln view of the change which we have I.Ila·de in the fOUl'th paragraph, where we substituted the words .. Endorses the request" for .. Endorses the oJ.'lder" Il think that we ought to make a change in the last Hne of the whole draft, where we refer again to " the o:rder". "'v.e say, .....to comply with the ol.der of the Acting Mediator... " 1 suggest tha.t, at this stage, we really ought tn say, .. if either party or both should fail to comply with this resolution. .. ,. nous
The President unattributed #148240
1 caU upon the representativ{-; ûi China for his reaction to this Suggestion. J Ml'. TSIANG (China) : 1 agree.
The President unattributed #148242
That is a substitution for the words " the oJ.'lder". Vexpression Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom) : Therefore, the end of the sentence would l'ead: "If either ~party or both should fail to comply with the preceding parograph of this resolution within whatev-er lime limit the Aoting Mediator may think it desirable to fix. " (traduit sera ou de le mblede paragr.aph,e
The PRESiDENT unattributed #148243
Now 1 understand that the perfected :paragraph at this stage would read as follows : "Appoints a committee of thr· Council, consisting of the five permanent members posé que qu'Ï'l graphe rim toget~er with Belgium and Colombia, to e~annne urgentlyand report to the CouncIl. on the measures which it would he appropriate to take under Article 41 of the Ch~-rter, if either party or both should fail 10 c0I?-Wly with the preceding paragr.aph ~f .thIs resol,ution, within whatever time bunt the Acting Mediator may think il d~sirable to' fix. " 18 that 'Correct? Sil' Alexander CADOGAN. ,(United Kingdom).,: Yeso . wor~e, and complicate the task of peaceful seUlement. Both parties to the conf1ict in Palestine were under the oiblïgation to fulfil the Se- curity Council resolution on the imme- diate cessation of military operations-ou resolution which !lad been unanimously adopted-and also to take aIl necessary measures to ensure a strid observance of the truce. The Acting Mediator has reportercl. to the Security Couneil today andassured lit that the situation in the Negeb was quiet. The Security ·Council has therefore achieved Hs aim. Thal most important resolution of principle on the immediate cessation of military operations, which was adopted on 19 October, has been :compHeod with. Both sides haveagreed to abide by thaï decision and to act accordingly. At; regards othar questions raised Iby the resolution, which had not been examined in detail at that meeting of 19 Octobe!', the Se.curity Council has taken a hasty ded- sion. The USSR delegation drew attention to this fact as it considered that Security Cauncil resolutions should be authorita- live, clear and precise. If they are to be snch, however, the problems to whioch the resolutions relate should he thoroughly examined. Acting under pressure'from several delc- gations, the Security COUDcil adopted a Sir Alexand,er Cadogan, supported by tbe Chinese representatlve. is now propos- ing a llP,W resolution for the setting up of a ,committee to examine measures whkh it woul:d he appropriate to take under Art- icle 41 of the. Charter, etc. Has the Acting Mediator, however, already exhausted al! possible ways and means under the pre- vioas resolution? The USSR delegatioll considel'8 that he has not, and that having received wide powers from the Security Couneil, he should act aocordingly and use aU possible means for the seUlement of the questions that have arisen between the two -parties. The USSR delegation considers that it would he useless to take a hasty decision now, after the Gouneil has already taken one such hasty dpdsion and can see the results of its haste. 'fhe lcreation of the eommittee mentioneod in the draft resolu- Hon wou1d be premature sinœ it might tie the .hands of the Acting Mediator and exercise a harmful effect on the whole question of the peacef.ul settlement. T~e Acting Mediator has.emphasized to- day the importance of ,changing the tru.ce into a lasting official peace. For the solu- tion of tbis :~r()lblem, dir®t negotiatJions: between the parties ·concerned are parti- cularly important. If both parties were to s~ow a l'eal desire to negociate they could, wIth the help of the Acting Mediator, achieve a great deal by means of direct ~egotiations. The Security Gouncil resolu- hon of 19 October provided for such direct negotiations. The resolution recommended negotiations on the question of the Negeb, but did not 'exclude the IpossilbiHty of these negotiations developing so as to indude other questions as weIl. \Vhy should no! the Security Gouncil use this possibility? W.hy must a new and hasty dedsion on thlS question he taken? In view,of the aforesaid considerations, ~he US;~R qdegation is of the opinion that It WCu!dhe premature to adopt sueh' a resolutlOn, and that in any cas'e the setting 1 would ask, therefore, that this draft resolution be not put to a vote to.day.
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The President unattributed #148244
[ should· like to ask the USSR representative if his suggestion is to be regarded asa motion ofpœtponement. If it is, it has the highest priority and should :he ;pùt ta the vote of the Council at once. Ml'. MALIK (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated {l'Dm Russiun) : It is not l: motion, but a suggestion. Ml'. EBAN .(Provisional Government of Israel) :, The Seourity -Council ha-s often esta~lished a practice of endeavouring to hear the parties on resolutions before they are, voted on, and thaï practke has been maiptained except when a cease-fire resolution was befOl-e the Security Conneil, when auy postponement lIlight lead to loss of life. 1 cannot, at this stage, make a detailed comment on thi-s .resolution, which 1 saw for the first time half an hour ago. 1 should, however, like to make just one or two ,comments a'bout matters which will, 1 think, affect the reception it will receive from the .parties. In the first place, we noUced that, under the tenns of the last paragraph, certain provi-sions of the Charter, which w'.::re never applied to prevent Arab invasions, are now to he a.pplied to .protect them, to stabilize their re-su1ts, and to restore their fortunes. ' '. It is also very typical of the mood of the draft resolution that it isolates the Negeb situation from the generaJ context. Ther·e is no sugge-stion in the final paragraph that any committee should worry about refusaIs t.o comply with the Mediator's rulings at Latrun or Mount Scopus or Mount Zion or Mi~hmar Hayarden. The Mediator's requests apparently .assume a 'sanetity only when direeted against Jewish positions in the Negeb. We wonder why the o.pportun- Ï't;y was lbst of. accepting the Acting Me:- diator'.g suggestion for a general review of the truce, in an effort to a·pply snch priri-· èiplesas were agreed upon not to any isola- That, however,does not by' any means constitute a detailed study of thisl"esolulion, and it is for the SecUl'ity Couneil to decide whether it should pass .a decision on this resolution without hearing the exhaustive views of the parties. ln conclusion, 1 should like to refer again to the question of interpretation which Sir Alexander Cadogan raised. 1 did not l'est my interpretation of the resolution of 19 October on the text of that re8olution alone. Il wasbecause the word .. basis ", as -distinct from the word .. object ", might have given rise to ambiguity that 1 sought a ruling from the President, saying that my understanding was that this· sub-paragraph was to be the subject of negotiation and that the SeourHy Council was not prejudicing the outoome of that negotiation. It was that interpretation of the resolution which the President, acting on behalf of the Seeurity Couneil, then uphelrl. Earlie,r, 1 made sorne observations which affect the contents and the consequences of this draft resolution. We think that the Security Council ,vould be acting rashly and that bad eohsequehces wouM ensue if it were to put its fai,th in an arbitrary dedsion and repudiate Hs resoloUtion of 19 October, which was a resolution in favour of a sett1ement of the Negeb problem by negotiation between the two parties under the auspices of the Mediator. We remain convinced that a treatment of this problem by those methods of negotiation, in compliance with that resolution, offer constructive possibilities, whereas a·rbitrary decisions in terms of this resolution priaI' to discussion and pri"r to negotiation will have the opposite effect. Ml'. PARODI (France) (translated {rom French) : 1 have a question to ask. 1 feel sorne hesitation regarding the proposed f.ext as a result of the modification just made in paragraph 4. If 1 understand correctly, the wOil'd " order" has been replaced by a weaker ward, and 1 am not sure whether, under these oCÏreumstances, there would not be a contradiction in referring, in the last paragraph, to the measures provided for in Article 41 of the Charter. If an order has :been giv.en, measures would naturallY be contemplated such as are taken when a dedsion has been ad?pted. If however, only a request is belUg made to the two parties, 1 am not sure whether the wOJ'lds "in a'ccordance ~vith Article 41 of the Charter" will not 1utroduce a kind of contradiction in the resolution. ~ned. It was actually addressed. as a reql1est. But once the Se'curity Council has endorsed that request and made it its own, 1 do not quite see why it would he necessai'y ,to a'lter the wording iÏn the fifoth and last paragraphs. However, if Ml'. Parodi sees any particular difficulty there, 1 shouM he happy to consider it and to try and meet him. It is true that the word which we have suibstituted for the wor.d .. order" is weak- ,er, hut we have subs1:ituted it Îoil order to haveit in accordance with the facts of whàt had'happened. 1 should have thought that in the' mbsequent paragraphs, if the Security Council endorses that request and makes it its own, we 'can use stronger language and contemplate possible sITonger actiOn, or at any r.ate, ex'amine Ithe possibility of s.tronger action.
The President unattributed #148248
Is there any furthe-r comment concerning the word "request"? 1 do nothear any. ln regard to the suggestion of the l'epresentative of the ûSSR, this puis the President in a very responsible ,position. The importanoe of the suspension of a vote is so great that it is particularly taken care of by a rule, namely by rule 33 of our rules of procedure, which says : "The following motions shaH have p-recedence in the order namcd over aH principal motions and draft resolutions relative to the &ubjeet before the meeting: ................................................... "5. To postpone ,discussion of the question to a certain day or indoefinitely. " 1 interpret this ;request as 'coming under that rule. Rule 33 then states: " Any mûtion for the suspension or for the simple adjournment of the meeting shaH be decided without ·dehate. " 1 shaH not assume the responsibility of postponing the vot· on this matter ne,cause on this 'particular item, we have bee~ under critidsm for not having acted sooner. We have ,been charg-ed preHy severeoly in this respect ; in fact, 1 do not like to discuss that point. Therefore, 1 shaH not make the dedsion, but 1 shaH ask the members of the Security Council whether anyone wishes to make a motion to postpone this matter. 1 hear no such motion, so 1 cannoi postpone it. Ml'. MANUILSKY (Ukr.ainian Soviet Somalist RepubIics) (transloted {rom Russian) : 11ifY of examining the proposaI. 1 think the Security Coun.cil's decision wouM gain greatly in authority if this or lUlY other proposaI were to be adopted unanimously. The present hasty procedure would unfortunately ,compel the delegation l have the honour to represent to abstain from voting as there are no grol1uds for snch haste. 1 would like to stress yet another consi,d- ~ration. Vle know that 'the Pa,lestine question is on the General Assemibly's agenda. In spUe of various pressing requests, the General Assem!bly, as represented by its First Committee, has already postponed the discussion of that question several times. 1 think it would be undesil'able to adopt a œsolution hastily, befÛ're the General Assembly may have examined the Palestine question in its wider aspects. In particular, 1 think il would he unwise to proceeod hurriedly with the adoption of the resolution at the ,present meeting. The PUESlDENT: Which day does the representative of the Ukrainian Soviet . Socialist Hepuhlic wish to set for the 'cons~deration of the resolution? As il stand~ he has proposed postponement for one or two days. "Vhich does he wish il to he? Mr. MANUILSKY (Ukrainian Soviet Sociallst RepubHc) (translated trom Rw~sian) 1 would ask for fÛ'r'ty-eight hours. Sir Alexander CADOGAN (United Kingdom) : Before the vote is taken 1 should like to ask whether it would. not he better for the Security CouUocil to meet tomorrow, jf that is possible, rather than to postpone th~ matter for two days, provioding .that adJournment until tomorrow would give t?ose who have asked for a poslponement hme enough to slndy the resoluti.on.
The President unattributed #148249
Would a postponement for. one day he satisfactory to the re,presentahve of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic?
The President unattributed #148251
ln that case we shaH now vote upon the motion to postpone the discussion for two days. A vote was taken by show of hands, as {oUows: In favour : Colombia, France, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Union of Soviet Socialist Re.publics. Against : Bel,gium, Canada, Syria, United States of America. Abstaining : United Kingdom, Argentina, China. The result of fJhe vote was 4. in favour, 4· against and 3. abstentions. The motion of the Ukrainian Sovid Socialist Republic was not adopled, havin~' failed ta obtain the affirmative votes of se1ven members.
The President unattributed #148253
The question of the resolution now arises. Mr. MALIK (Union of Soviet Socialist Republies) {translated fl'om Russian) : Sir Alexander Cadogan had proposed to postpone the meeting for one day. Perhaps his proposaI might gain more votes?
The President unattributed #148254
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