S/PV.3765Resumption1 Security Council
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The President: I should like to inform the Council
that I have received a letter from the representative of
Tajikistan, in which he requests to be invited to participate
in the discussion of the item on the Council's agenda. In
conformity with the usual practice, I propose, with the
consent of the Council, to invite that representative to
participate in the discussion, without the right to vote, in
accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter and
rule 37 of the Council's provisional rules of procedure.
There being no objection, it is so decided.
At the invitation of the President, Mr. Alimov
(Tajikistan) took a seat at the Council table.
The President: The next speaker is the representative
of the Netherlands. I invite him to take a seat at the
Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Berteling (Netherlands): I have the honour to
speak on behalf of the European Union. The following
associated countries have aligned themselves with this
statement: Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Hungary,
Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia.
Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway also align themselves
with this statement.
For many years, the people of Afghanistan have been
suffering from war, human rights violations, extortion and
corruption. They are tired of the conflict and long for
peace, justice and order. However, the European Union
notes with deep concern the continuation and even the
intensification of armed hostilities in Afghanistan. The
warring factions still seem to believe in a military solution
to the conflict. The European Union calls on all Afghan
parties to cease the hostilities and to engage in political
dialogue aimed at the establishment of a broad-based
government representing the different ethnic and religious
groups in the country, and at achieving national
reconciliation.
Furthermore, harmful influence by countries in the
region continues. In this context, the European Union
wishes to reaffirm its strong commitment to the
sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and national
unity of Afghanistan. The European Union strongly urges
third parties to refrain from interfering in the conflict and
from supplying arms to the warring factions. On 17
December 1996 the European Union established an arms
embargo concerning Afghanistan, under which no
European Union member State will deliver arms to any of
the warring parties in that country. The associated
countries have aligned themselves with this embargo. The
European Union encourages all States to follow a similar
policy of restraint.
The European Union encourages the States in the
region to support the United Nations efforts to promote
peace in Afghanistan and to use any influence they have
to encourage the Afghan parties to cooperate fully with
the United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan.
The European Union reaffirms the central role of the
United Nations in international efforts towards a peaceful
resolution of the Afghan conflict. The European Union
fully supports the efforts of the United Nations Special
Mission to Afghanistan, which is uniquely placed to act
as an impartial mediator in the search for peace. It calls
upon all Afghan parties to cooperate with the United
Nations Special Mission to achieve a negotiated and
comprehensive solution. As a first step, there should be
an immediate ceasefire.
The already serious situation in Afghanistan is
compounded by grave and persistent human rights
violations and breaches of humanitarian law. Of particular
concern to the European Union is the deteriorating
situation of women and girls, who are increasingly
deprived of their human rights, particularly in areas
controlled by the Taliban. The European Union is also
concerned about the situation of displaced persons in
Afghanistan, in particular those from villages north of
Kabul. The European Union urgently appeals to all
Afghan parties involved to respect all human rights and
fundamental freedoms.
In addition, the European Union wishes to express
its concern about the conditions under which international
personnel and non-governmental organizations have to
work in Afghanistan.
The European Union is also worried to note that the
continuation of the conflict in Afghanistan increases the
potential for international terrorism and drug trafficking
with destabilizing effects for the region and beyond. The
European Union therefore calls upon all parties in
Afghanistan to halt such activities.
The European Union is actively engaged in
discussions in various forums with a view to enhancing
humanitarian aid and reconstruction and developing a
unitary approach by the donor community to the Afghan
crisis.
As the leading contributor of humanitarian aid to
Afghanistan, the European Union remains concerned about
the possible repercussions of the violations of human rights
on the beneficiaries of European Union, United Nations and
other relief programmes in Afghanistan. It looks forward to
continuing the dialogue with all the parties concerned on
cooperation modalities aimed at ensuring the delivery of aid
while maintaining the quality of support already provided
to the people of Afghanistan, irrespective of their gender
and ethnic background.
The European Union draws attention to the existence
of mine-clearing programmes in Afghanistan and urges all
Afghan parties to support and participate in these
programmes. In this context, the European Union also
appeals to the Afghan parties to put a complete halt to the
use of landmines, in view of the great number of innocent
people falling victim to these weapons.
In conclusion, let me reiterate the European Union's
continuing commitment to support actively the United
Nations in its search for and its facilitation of a resolution
of the conflict in Afghanistan, which has claimed so many
innocent lives.
The President: The next speaker is the representative
of Turkey. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Celem (Turkey): At the outset, I would like to
express our appreciation to Secretary-General Kofi Annan
for his comprehensive, to-the-point and valuable report on
the situation in Afghanistan. We concur with the
observations and recommendations in his report.
Since the last meetings of the General Assembly and
the Security Council on this subject and the meeting of
interested countries here in New York, a considerable
amount of time has passed. In this period the United
Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, headed by Mr.
Holl, has made concerted efforts to make further progress
in bringing together the warring parties and to achieve the
urgent task of establishing a ceasefire, which could then be
the basis for an improvement in the political and
humanitarian situation in Afghanistan. There have also been
efforts, including those of my country, in support of United
Nations efforts to bring the same parties to the negotiating
table to help them reach a certain common ground and thus
contribute to finding a solution to the crisis.
As we understand from the Secretary-General's
report, very limited progress was achieved during the
Intra-Afghan Working Group meetings convened by the
Special Mission. However, a notable aspect of that
Working Group was that it brought together, for the first
time, the Taliban and the Supreme Council for the
Defence of Afghanistan.
As confirmed by the report of the Secretary-General,
the political situation in Afghanistan has not improved
over the past months. The humanitarian situation has even
worsened. It is most unfortunate for the long-suffering
people of Afghanistan that the warring factions, and in
particular the Taliban, appear determined to pursue the
military option. It is therefore necessary to bring the
Taliban into the negotiation and reconciliation process. As
has also been emphasized in the Secretary-General's
report, the possibility of an increase in the military
activity of the Taliban will emerge when favourable
weather conditions prevail in the coming months. This is
the imminent threat that we are facing.
Within the context of trying to contribute to the
efforts aimed at finding a solution to the crisis in
Afghanistan, the Foreign Ministers of Iran, Pakistan and
Turkey met in Istanbul on 5 January 1997. The three
Ministers reaffirmed their readiness and determination to
give their full support to the Afghan people, in the
direction of the goals set by the United Nations. Turkey
also carried out contacts with each of the warring factions
with a view to exploring whether we could be of any
assistance in bringing them to the negotiating table.
Although initial reactions from all the sides were
favourable, at a late stage one of the parties indicated that
it was unable to attend.
In the light of all these developments, it is our
opinion that the immediate goal, as clearly set out in the
report of the Secretary-General, and as pursued by the
United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, should be
to convince the sides that military ascendancy by one
over the others will not serve, in the long run, the
interests of Afghan people. We strongly believe that there
is no better way to achieve peace in Afghanistan than by
initiating a healthy dialogue between the various factions.
One of the major obstacles to convincing the faction
leaders that a military solution is not only undesirable but
also unattainable is the continuing supply of weapons,
military equipment and ammunition from outside. As long
as such foreign interference continues, the sides, and
especially the Taliban, will see no incentive to desist from
pursuing the military option.
In this respect, we all should realize that, under
present conditions, not only are the well-being and
humanitarian requirements of the Afghan people at stake,
but, above all, its national unity. There exists a real and, in
fact, a growing threat of division along ethnic lines. We
should not lose sight of the fact that the developments in
Afghanistan seriously threaten the stability and security of
the region as a whole.
My country has close ties, deeply rooted in history,
with Afghanistan and the Afghan people. We feel very
strongly about the sovereignty, independence, territorial
integrity and national unity of Afghanistan. For the unity of
the country and for the benefit of the people of
Afghanistan, the Afghan leaders should respond without
delay to appeals of the friends of Afghanistan to cease the
hostilities and to engage in negotiations for a peaceful
solution.
We, the Member States of the United Nations, and
especially those closest to Afghanistan, should try only to
bring about a negotiated settlement of the Afghan problem.
We should, in particular, strictly refrain from military
involvement and interference in the internal affairs of
Afghanistan.
For its part, Turkey is ready to do what it can to
contribute to the normalization of the situation in that
friendly country. We will wholeheartedly continue to
support the Secretary-General's efforts to this end, as well
as those of the United Nations Special Mission to
Afghanistan. I would also like to remind the Council once
again that, if and when the Secretary-General decides that
an intra-Afghan meeting among the warring parties will
contribute to peace efforts, Turkey stands ready to host
such a meeting.
The President: The next speaker is the representative
of Pakistan. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Kama] (Pakistan): In accordance with your strict
injunctions, Mr. President, I will refrain from congratulating
you sincerely on the assumption of your high office, and
from expressing my admiration for your predecessor, but
you know, Sir, that such indeed are our deeply held sentiments.
My delegation has already outlined its reading of the
underlying causes of the conflict in Afghanistan on a
number of previous occasions in statements before the
Council. I do not, therefore, intend to repeat those details,
which set out the clear background to the situation that
we are all faced with in that country and which remain as
valid today as when we made those earlier statements.
What is clear to all of us is that we have a civil war
in Afghanistan today. It is equally clear that the people of
Afghanistan themselves, brave, noble, and peace-loving as
they are, are fed up with the factional strife that has riven
that country, and they earnestly dream of resuming a
normal life in conditions of dignity and security.
It is incumbent upon all of us, observing Afghanistan
from the outside as we do, to assist the people of
Afghanistan in their quest for normalcy. This would
require a comprehensive framework for restoring peace in
Afghanistan, with the total commitment and support of
the international community. This comprehensive
framework should have political, economic and
humanitarian components and should be implemented
with vigour and determination.
Pakistan, for its part, is adhering to a policy of strict
neutrality and non-interference in Afghanistan. We do not
support a military solution, and we continue to believe
that a broad-based government is the only viable solution
for a multi-ethnic Afghanistan.
Pakistan has a deep vested interest in peace in
Afghanistan. As a consequence of the continued
instability in Afghanistan, there are more than 1.5 million
refugees even today in Pakistan. We are facing great
difficulties with the upkeep of these refugees in the face
of donor fatigue and our own limited resources. We are
also the victims of terrorism, drug trafficking and arms
smuggling as a result of conditions inside Afghanistan.
Our access to Central Asia, and the prospects of mutually
beneficial economic collaboration with that region, have
not materialized. No country in the world, therefore, has
a deeper vested interest in peace in Afghanistan than does
Pakistan.
Much has been said about the Taliban. The Taliban,
who control Kabul and two thirds of Afghanistan, are a
reality and cannot simply be wished away. Given the
support that they undoubtedly have from the population
in all the provinces that they control, it would be futile to
indulge in name-calling, wishful thinking or military
confrontation. It would be far better obviously to engage
them in constructive dialogue in an effort to get them to
moderate some of their policies.
We have to take serious note of the fact that the
Taliban have publicly proclaimed that they do not want to
rule Afghanistan alone. They have expressed their
willingness to include all ethnic groups in the formation of
a government in Afghanistan. We do not hold any brief for
them, but here is what we heard their representatives say
during the recently concluded meeting of the Islamic
summit in Islamabad:
"The Taliban Islamic movement has been blamed
differently. It is blamed as a movement started
just for power for the Pashtun tribe, or it is said
that this Government cannot represent the people
of the Afghan nation. To deny the above-
mentioned incorrect statements, we can say that
this movement is neither a tribal nor a national
movement, nor does it work for the advantage of
a tribe or any foreign country. The movement
does not allow others to interfere in Afghanistan.
Similarly, it does not want to interfere in others'
internal affairs. The Islamic State of Afghanistan
is in favour of good relations with all countries
of the world. To prove our claim of a broad-
based Government in Afghanistan, we present a
list of the Ministers and Governors belonging to
Tajik and Uzbek tribes."
This was followed by a list of the four Tajik and
Uzbek Ministers in the Ministries of Education, Refugees,
and Planning in the central Government in Kabul and the
three Governors of the Paktia, Parwan, and Kapisa
provinces of Afghanistan. The statement of the Taliban
went on to say:
"Keeping in mind the above facts, we request all
representatives of nations to convey these
messages and ask the Governments to reopen
their embassies in Kabul and let the Islamic State
of Afghanistan represent the Afghan nation in the
United Nations and in the Organization of the
Islamic Conference".
Compare that effort at broad-based government to the
statement made just two days ago by Commander Massoud
to journalists, in which he, for his part, threatens to
continue along the futile path of a military confrontation in
the following words: "This year we have the intention of
fighting on several fronts"; and again, "All our groups will
begin fighting from several directions simultaneously".
Should the current polarization continue, or should it
be encouraged from the outside, there is the danger of the
fragmentation of Afghanistan along ethnic fault lines. This
would have serious implications for the peace and
stability of the entire region. It is therefore imperative that
outside interference in support of one or the other of the
contending factions cease. It is important for the
international community to reiterate its total commitment
to the unity and territorial integrity of Afghanistan.
There are continuing and disturbing reports of the
provision of weapons and ammunition and the presence
of foreign military personnel in Afghanistan. We have
proposed on a number of occasions in the past that an
arms embargo should be imposed on Afghanistan. We
continue to believe that such an embargo would be
helpful in containing the incentives for conflict. It would
also have a psychological impact on the Afghans,
influencing them to agree to an intra-Afghan dialogue
with the aim of achieving a political settlement of the
problem.
Pakistan recognizes the State of Afghanistan. We
have done business with every regime in Kabul,
regardless of whether it was that of Nur Mohammad
Taraki, Hafizullah Amin, Mojadedi or Rabbani. We will
continue to adhere to that policy.
It is important not only to be equitable, but also to
be seen to be equitable towards the Afghan factions. The
previous criterion for recognition of any of the factions as
the legitimate Government of Afghanistan appears to have
been control of Kabul. The Rabbani regime was accorded
recognition when it controlled Kabul and six other
provinces. Today, it has neither de facto control of the
capital, as it holds sway over only three outlying
provinces, nor any de jure legitimacy. Yet it continues to
be tolerated as the Government of Afghanistan and
continues to occupy Afghanistan's seat in the United
Nations. This cannot be justified under any circumstances.
The United Nations should adopt the "vacant seat"
formula that was endorsed by the Organization of the
Islamic Conference in its own meetings. That would
reflect reality. More importantly, it would also encourage
the factions to move towards a broad-based dispensation
in order to secure full international legitimacy and
recognition.
In the meantime, while Pakistan welcomes this open
debate in the Security Council, it is convinced that we
have not heard the true voice of the Afghan people, who
alone can decide on their own future. Until and unless we
do so, our discussions here will continue to be ill-
informed and incomplete. It is high time that the Security
Council listened to the views of the Taliban in order to
have a more balanced view of the situation in Afghanistan.
This could be done under the Arria formula. We understand
that the Taliban have representatives in New York now.
The sooner the Council engages them in dialogue, the better
it will be for Afghanistan.
If the Security Council again takes a position that may
be perceived to be one-sided, and if it does so without
contacts with the Taliban or other Afghan factions, its
judgement would once again fail to reflect the true
sentiments of the Afghan people. The time has now come
for the international community to take a more balanced
and mature view of realities on the ground in Afghanistan.
There are many indications that this is the time, not least of
which is the constructive attitude that we have perceived on
the part of some interested parties in recent contacts.
There is therefore an urgent need to facilitate an
equitable settlement which takes cognizance of realities on
the ground and the ethnic and demographic spread of the
population. Any other solution that does not guarantee the
equitable representation of all ethnic groups in a future
dispensation will not bring durable peace to Afghanistan.
Pakistan is committed to supporting the efforts of the
United Nations Special Mission and of the Security Council
in restoring peace in Afghanistan. We have some further
suggestions as to how this could be done.
An intra-Afghan conference, under the aegis of the
United Nations, assisted if necessary by the Organization of
the Islamic Conference, with countries having contiguous
borders with Afghanistan participating as observers, should
be convened in order to find a lasting solution to and
settlement of the Afghan problem. The agenda for such a
meeting should comprise, first, an immediate ceasefire and
the exchange of prisoners and dead bodies; secondly, the
formation of a political commission, consisting of
representatives from all the provinces, to decide on the
future dispensation and the method of its appointment; and,
thirdly, the creation of a national force, on the basis of
proportionate representation from all the provinces, to
collect heavy weapons and to provide security.
The outcome of such an intra-Afghan meeting could
then be endorsed by an international conference. In this
way the international community would not only be able to
put its weight behind the decisions taken by the Afghans
themselves, but could also promise assistance for the
reconstruction of Afghanistan, if the Afghans honour their
own decisions.
The other elements of a comprehensive approach
require equal attention. We need a generous and sustained
international commitment to the economic reconstruction
of Afghanistan, and the provision of urgent humanitarian
assistance to the people of Afghanistan. We also need
such assistance for the refugees in Pakistan and Iran, and
we need to make effective plans for their rapid
repatriation to a peaceful Afghanistan.
The time has now come for the Security Council to
act decisively for the cause of peace in Afghanistan. We
hope that this debate will prove to be a new milestone in
the international efforts towards building an international
alliance for peace in Afghanistan. Let us act in
accordance with the Charter of the United Nations. Let us
use our resources, both material and moral, to overcome
the apparent political impasse; and let us act now, before
it is too late.
The President: I thank the representative of Pakistan
for the kind words he addressed to me.
The next speaker is His Excellency Ambassador
Engin Ansay, Permanent Observer of the Organization of
the Islamic Conference to the United Nations, to whom
the Council has extended an invitation under rule 39 of its
provisional rules of procedure. I invite him to take a seat
at the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Ansay (Organization of the Islamic Conference): On behalf of the Secretary General of the
Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), and on my
own behalf, I extend to you, Sir, our heartiest
congratulations on your assumption of the high office of
President of the Security Council. I also take this
opportunity to pay tribute to your predecessor.
The Organization of the Islamic Conference is
collaborating with the United Nations in promoting the
ongoing peace process in Afghanistan. Throughout the
civil war in that country, the OIC has focused
unreservedly on endeavours to promote a cessation of
hostilities so that the necessary climate for a credible
peace process, leading to the formulation of a broad-based
representative Government, may be created. In our
contacts with various Afghan leaders, especially during
the OIC missions to the country, including those led by
Ambassador Bakr after 1994, and the three that I led in
the summer of 1995 and winter of 1996, we have
consistently emphasized the futility of resorting to the use
of force and seeking a military solution, instead of
negotiation, in finding a common workable settlement to
their present predicament. Mr. Norbert Holl, Head of the
United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, with whom
we have maintained close relations, has also advocated this
view, and together we have endeavoured to defuse tensions
and assist in fostering the spirit of mutual trust and
confidence among the various Afghan factions so that a
climate for peace may emerge.
In this context, I would like to refer to paragraph 15
of the Secretary-General's report (8/1997/240), which deals
with the detention in Kabul of two French humanitarian
workers. I am pleased to report that following the calls for
their immediate release by the Secretary-General and the
Security Council, the OIC secretariat promptly responded
by using its good offices with the Taliban authorities, and
with their cooperation arranged for the release and safe
return of these French nationals.
The apparent overwhelming military successes of the
Taliban over several of the areas previously held by the
other Afghan factions have, indeed, sketched a different
scenario of realities that face the country today. But if
experience of other conflicts in that very region, as well as
in other regions, is any guide, then there is a need, now
more than ever before, for the cessation of hostilities and
the serious resumption of the collective search for an
honourable, workable and sustainable solution that would
rescue the people of Afghanistan from the uncertainties and
insecurities imposed on their lives by the devastating events
of the past two decades. We fully share the Secretary-
General's assertion in his report that no one should imagine
that a military victory by one party over the others will
resolve the Afghan problem in the long term.
While the prerogative of and the principal
responsibilities for bringing peace to Afghanistan rests with
the people - and especially the leadership, or leaderships
of Afghanistan - other affected and interested countries in
the region and elsewhere also have a role to contribute to
the peace process. And it behoves those States that have
influence over any particular political or military faction in
Afghanistan to rise to the occasion and play a constructive
role by preventing the sale and supply of arms to any of the
factions in Afghanistan, by preventing the harbouring and
training of militarists and by eliminating the devastating
drug traffic, which has grown to an abominable volume and
needs to be halted now before it reaches a catastrophic
level.
As I said a moment ago, we in the OIC are
endeavouring to complement the work of the United
Nations to assist the diverse Afghan leadership to bring
peace and tranquillity back to their country and to restore
precious human rights, including those of women and
children, which have been much trampled in the ensuing
turmoil. To this end, the convening of a meeting of all
Afghan factions that are active both inside and outside
Afghanistan, including the monarchy, and other
potentially influential leaders, such as General Abdul Haq,
to explore and develop a commonly acceptable framework
for addressing the country's political and security issues
and a peaceful transfer of power, has been proposed and
is being actively pursued. We in the OIC are certainly
prepared to co-sponsor such a meeting, which may take
place anywhere from Jeddah to Geneva, in Turkey or
Germany; indeed, at any venue that is agreeable to all the
Afghan participants. I hope that this approach will receive
the support of the Security Council. The Secretary
General of the OIC will soon visit New York, in response
to the call of the Secretary-General, among other things,
to consult on the advisability of such a meeting.
In conclusion, I would like to reiterate the OIC's full
commitment to continue to play its role, constructive and
complementary, to that of the United Nations, in
facilitating the overall peace process in Afghanistan.
The President: I thank His Excellency Ambassador
Engin Ansay for the kind words he addressed to me.
The next speaker is the representative of the Islamic
Republic of Iran. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Kharrazi (Islamic Republic of Iran): Allow me
to congratulate you, Sir, on your assumption of the
presidency of the Security Council for this month. I also
wish to express appreciation to the Permanent
Representative of Poland for his leadership of the Council
in March.
Security Council consideration of the situation in
Afghanistan is a welcome indication of the decision by
the international community to focus further on this most
protracted and tragic conflict. This is all the more crucial
at this time because military operations and further
bloodshed are likely to intensify in the spring. The
Islamic Republic of Iran hopes that the outcome of the
deliberations of the issue in the Security Council will
send a strong message to all warring parties in
Afghanistan, stating in no uncertain terms that enough is
enough and demanding that all Afghan parties cease
immediately all armed hostilities, abandon and renounce
the use of force and take advantage of the preparedness
of the United Nations, the Organization of the Islamic
Conference (OIC), regional States and other interested
organizations and States to help them sort out their
differences and engage in a political dialogue aimed at
achieving national reconciliation and a durable political
settlement of the conflict and establishing a broad-based
and fully representative government.
The people of this war-ravaged country have suffered
much for nearly 18 long years now. They have been
subjected to horrors and indignities that are not fully
comprehensible to the outside world. The Afghan people
have been condemned to a life of misery, in which they are
engaged in illicit traffic in arms and narcotics, and even in
selling the bones and remains of their dead simply in order
to support their families.
Such reflection on the grim and abhorrent reality in
Afghanistan is by no means intended to be soft on or find
justification for criminals and illicit traffickers in arms and
narcotics, particularly those Afghan factions that reportedly
organize and promote such illegal activities in order to
finance their military operations. In fact, such illicit traffic
in arms, and particularly in narcotic drugs, is a source of
grave concern in Iran. It has greatly burdened the Islamic
Republic of Iran in terms of both the manpower and the
financial resources it devotes to combating drug traffic at
its borders.
My intention, in reflecting on the human tragedy in
Afghanistan, is to draw attention to the fact that in the final
analysis it is not only the legal but also the moral
responsibility of the international community to address this
tragic situation in an effective manner.
As a neighbour of Afghanistan that has been directly
and drastically affected by developments there and has
shared with the Afghan people their agonizing experience
and gone out of its way to provide humanitarian assistance
to them, we strongly believe that the international
community must use effectively both the carrot and the
stick at its disposal in Afghanistan. While the Security
Council should seek ways and means of seeing to it that its
resolutions are implemented, the provision of humanitarian
aid and preparatory work for the reconstruction of
Afghanistan, and the incentives they offer for progress
towards a political settlement, should be explored at the
same time. Under such circumstances, there certainly is a
greater chance of success for the efforts of the United
Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, the Organization
of the Islamic Conference, regional States and other
interested organizations and States to help bring this
conflict to an end.
Owing to the tribal character of Afghanistan and
other factors, including the socialization of poverty and
violence over a long period of time, the political
resolution of the Afghan conflict requires a
comprehensive approach whereby the views of all parties
and all segments of Afghan society are taken into
account. To cite the report of the Secretary-General,
"No one should imagine that a military victory
by one party over the others will resolve the
Afghan problem in the long term."
(5/1997/240, para. 23)
In our view, coordination and cooperation on the
part of the regional States which are the most directly
affected by the situation in Afghanistan and other
interested States with the United Nations Special Mission
to Afghanistan is crucial to the international effort to find
a lasting political settlement in that country. We welcome
the decision of the Secretary-General to hold another
meeting on Afghanistan of the interested States and
organizations in order to coordinate regional and
international efforts aimed at achieving national
reconciliation in that country.
The United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan
should be supported and should be encouraged to further
extend its contacts with all factions and groups in
Afghanistan and with its neighbours. The efforts of the
Special Mission to Afghanistan, headed by Mr. Norbert
Holl, and of the Organization of the Islamic Conference
to bring about the restoration of peace, normalcy and
national reconciliation are to be commended. These
efforts should continue with even greater vigour, resolve
and impartiality in order to persuade all Afghan political
factions and ethnic groups to denounce the logic and the
use of force and to engage in a bona fide dialogue aimed
at establishing a broad-based government of national
unity.
In this connection, as the Islamic Republic of Iran
was gravely concerned about the repercussions of the
recent escalating developments in Afghanistan on the
peace and stability of the region and on the Afghan
reconciliation process, it convened an intra-Afghan
meeting at Tehran on 25 and 26 January this year. In
addition to Afghan groups, the Head of the United
Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan and
representatives of Pakistan, Turkey and Turkmenistan
participated in the meeting. The Tehran meeting adopted a
declaration that urged all Afghan parties to abandon
hostilities in favour of constructive dialogue towards a
political settlement.
In our view, a set of principles should guide all
international, regional and other efforts aimed at achieving
a just and lasting peace in Afghanistan. Such a list could
include the following elements: respect for the sovereignty,
political independence, territorial integrity and national
unity of Afghanistan; the rejection of any military solution
to the Afghan problem; the rejection of foreign intervention
in the internal affairs of Afghanistan; refrainment from
providing weapons, military personnel and advice to any
and all warring factions in Afghanistan; respect for the
fundamental rights and freedoms of all Afghan people,
particularly the rights of women and girls; the need for a
cessation of hostilities and for the beginning of national
reconciliation through a process of dialogue in which all
political and ethnic groups in Afghanistan will participate.
Bearing these principles in mind, the international
community should redouble its efforts to begin the political
process with a View to helping the Afghan people establish
a broad-based government so as to halt further violence and
bloodshed and ensure the durability and fairness of the
solution. In this context, the idea of the demilitarization of
Kabul as an important first step merits special attention.
Needless to say, this requires careful planning and the
negotiation of interim administrative measures to ensure
security and public order.
The Islamic Republic of Iran is determined, within the
framework of regional and international efforts and in
cooperation and coordination with the United Nations
Special Mission to Afghanistan, to continue to seek to
impress upon all Afghan factions and ethnic groups the
need to halt the vicious cycle of violence and the indignities
the Afghan people have long been subjected to, and to
resolve their differences by peaceful means through a
process of political dialogue in which all Afghan factions
and ethnic groups are represented.
The President: I thank the representative of the
Islamic Republic of Iran for the kind words he addressed to
me.
The next speaker is the representative of Germany. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to make
his statement.
Mr. Rudolph (Germany): For the third time in just
over a year, the Security Council is having an open
debate on the situation in Afghanistan. The last 12 months
have seen an increase in the activities of the international
community, in particular the United Nations, to bring
about a peaceful solution to the Afghan conflict. The last
12 months have not seen, regrettably, an increased
willingness by the Afghan parties to put an end to the
fighting. Outside support for the parties seems to have
continued as well.
Germany fully supports what the representative of
the Netherlands said on behalf of the European Union and
very much shares the concerns expressed by many in the
course of yesterday's and today's open debate. With the
snows melting, new and large battles may be just around
the corner. The political consequences could be serious,
the humanitarian impact disastrous. According to the
Secretary-General's recent report, the rather limited
fighting within the first two and a half months this year
led to the displacement of 115,000 people from north of
Kabul alone. We strongly support the request made by the
United Nations to the Taliban authorities to take measures
to encourage the return of the displaced to their home
communities.
We remain deeply concerned about the human rights
situation in Afghanistan. In resolution 1076 (1996),
adopted on 22 October 1996, the Security Council
denounced the discrimination against girls and women
and other violations of human rights and international
humanitarian law in Afghanistan. The General Assembly
repeated this denunciation in its resolution 51/195,
adopted by consensus on 17 December 1996, and called
upon all Afghan parties to respect the human rights of
every individual, regardless of gender, ethnicity and
religion. In spite of these very clear expressions of the
will of the international community, human rights
continue to be largely violated in Afghanistan. In this
respect, policies of the Taliban denying girls and women
access to education and to many forms of employment are
particularly disturbing. It is clear that the international
standing of any Afghan party cannot be independent of its
record in complying with international obligations and the
unanimous decisions of United Nations bodies.
My Government fully supports the untiring efforts of
the United Nations, in particular the United Nations
Special Mission to Afghanistan, that aim at exploring
every possibility to bring the Afghan conflict closer to its
peaceful solution. Since the open Security Council debate
on Afghanistan on 9 April 1996, the United Nations
Special Mission has been strengthened by the secondment
of political affairs officers. Norbert Holl was appointed as
its new Head. In December 1996, the General Assembly
renewed the mandate of the Special Mission and further
strengthened it by allowing for the deployment of three
additional military advisers and two civilian police advisers.
The principles for peace in Afghanistan, as laid down
in General Assembly resolution 50/88, were reaffirmed in
several Security Council decisions, including resolution
1076 (1996), and updated and further elaborated in General
Assembly resolution 51/ 195 . We have said again and again
that what remains to be done is to put these principles for
peace into practice. So far, the parties have decided to
continue fighting. But Norbert H011 and his dedicated staff
have been successful in keeping channels open, to the
extent where, as experience has shown, the Special Mission
is currently the only institution that can bring together all
parties for talks. So long as we do not want to give up hope
that we may see the Afghan conflict solved peacefully, the
task of the Special Mission will remain of crucial
importance.
What can be done to convince the Afghan parties to
renounce the military option and commit themselves to a
peace process? There may be no easy answer to that
question. But it is clear that it is the United Nations that
must try to bring the parties to the negotiating table, and
that the United Nations will need help from its Member
States in doing so. Security Council resolution 1076 (1996)
as well as General Assembly resolution 51/195 assign the
central role in international efforts aiming at a peaceful
resolution of the Afghan conflict to the United Nations. At
the same time, both decisions call on Member States
actively to support the work of the United Nations and to
use any influence they have with the Afghan parties to that
end.
We would therefore encourage the Secretary-General
and the Special Mission to intensify their contacts with
regional and other interested States on the issue of
Afghanistan. The international meeting on Afghanistan
planned for 16 April can be an important step in that
direction. We also call upon all concerned to coordinate
closely with the Special Mission all initiatives they plan
with regard to Afghanistan. Any peace talks involving the
Afghan parties should be chaired by the United Nations.
It has been repeated often that the Afghan conflict
must be solved through negotiations and not on the
battlefield. Peace in Afghanistan requires a joint effort by
all of us, under the leadership of the United Nations. We
must translate our strict rejection of a military solution
into full support, in words and deeds, for the United
Nations Special Mission. Germany stands ready to play
its part, and we look forward to continued cooperation
with the United Nations and with other interested Member
States in pursuing our common goal of a peaceful
Afghanistan.
The President: The next speaker is the
representative of Italy. I invite him to take a seat at the
Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Terzi di Sant'Agata (Italy): The Italian
delegation fully endorses the statement made by the
Netherlands on behalf of the European Union, and would
like to add some comments on particular aspects of this
issue.
Afghanistan is a country that in its long history has
been afflicted by recurring tensions, heightened at times
by the interference of foreign countries. But this
interference has always been repelled by the deeply
independent character of the Afghan people. This is both
ancient and modern history. Events of the past 15 years
have left Afghanistan torn asunder by clashes between the
various factions and prey to a civil war to which no end
is in sight. Sadly, all available indications point to a
probable resumption of hostilities in the coming days and
weeks, with the arrival of spring making the mountain
passes that dot the countryside once again viable. But if
there is a lesson that can be learned from recent history,
it is that a lasting solution to the Afghan crisis cannot be
found on the military level but must instead be the fruit
of a consultation process and of political mediation, not
only between the main faction leaders, but also among the
various components of Afghan society.
For many years the neighbouring countries have
born the burden of millions of Afghan refugees in their
territories, at a high cost. The number of refugees has
gone down recently but still poses considerable problems
for the host countries. We must appreciate the efforts
made by these countries and be grateful for the welcome
they have extended to the refugees. These countries are
indeed the most interested in finding a stable and lasting
solution to the Afghan crisis, as a political settlement
would also allow the return of the refugees to their
homes.
In recent months the Taliban movement has gained
control over an ever wider swath of the country, including
the capital. The decisions made thus far by the Taliban
leaders in Kabul have certainly been cause for alarm in the
international community, especially in terms of respect for
the human rights of women. It is worthwhile to repeat
forcefully that these rights are the common heritage of all
humanity, and must always be respected. We also note that
the international community knows very little about the
structure of that movement, and can only base its judgment
on the decisions and behaviour that have raised such alarm.
Italy fully supports the mediation activities of the
United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, and is also
convinced that close coordination between all the
negotiating efforts is needed. We hope that these initiatives
can bring about significant improvements and register
concrete results. In this perspective we believe that the
Secretary-General's useful initiative to convene a new
meeting on Afghanistan of the countries most directly
interested in the Afghan crisis can help lead to innovative
proposals and to indications of ways to find a solution to
the crisis.
In view of its traditional friendly relations with
Afghanistan, Italy has continued over these years to provide
an uninterrupted flow of humanitarian assistance to the
country through contributions to the specialized agencies
and other United Nations structures. We look forward to the
conference on coordinating humanitarian assistance
activities to be held in Geneva on 21 April. It is of the
utmost importance that this coordination be implemented in
a way that allows the assistance to be equitably distributed
to the entire Afghan population.
Italy is particularly concerned by the growing
dimensions of drug production in Afghanistan. This is not
a new phenomenon, but the disintegration of any semblance
of central power and the economic ruin of the country have
led larger segments of the population to undertake this
harmful activity. The action that the factions take to cut
back on the cultivation of drug crops is a litmus test of
their will to participate constructively in the rebuilding of
a new State that is fully entitled to be part of the
international community.
In closing, let me reiterate Italy's determination to
participate in the search for a compromise solution that will
allow a gradual stabilization of the country, a greater flow
of humanitarian assistance, and a much-needed
improvement in the living conditions of the people.
The President: The next speaker is the representative
of Tajikistan. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Alimov (Tajikistan) (interpretation from Russian): The ongoing armed conflict in Afghanistan, the
danger of its further escalation and the attempts by the
Taliban movement to settle the question of who shall rule
the country to its own advantage by exclusively military
means are the cause of growing concern to Tajikistan and
the rest of the international community. We are
particularly concerned that the civilian population is
suffering as a result of hostilities. There is a growing
number of refugees and internally displaced persons,
including citizens of Tajikistan who by chance found
themselves in the Islamic State of Afghanistan at that
time.
Available information suggests that in the territory
controlled by the Taliban there are gross violations of
basic human rights, particularly those of women. There is
also abundant evidence that people are being persecuted
on political and ethnic grounds and that religious
fanaticism is being propagated. There have been gross
violations of the norms of international law, and actions
that prevent the normal performance of United Nations
activities in Afghanistan. We believe that all this calls for
the firmest possible reaction by the international
community.
We cannot fail to be alarmed by information that the
warring parties are continuing to build up their forces and
are preparing for active hostilities which may very soon
take on even more devastating proportions, seriously
complicating and exacerbating the already critical
humanitarian situation in the country. At the same time,
it appears to us that there is a concomitant growing threat
to regional peace and security.
Assurances that the conflict in Afghanistan is a
purely internal matter seem to us to be extremely dubious.
Tajikistan is giving ever-closer consideration to the
possible consequences of a continuation of hostilities in
fraternal Afghanistan, which is our neighbour. We have
already encountered some real problems, foremost among
them the growing illegal trafficking in drugs, weapons
and munitions.
In this connection, we have been making concerted
efforts - together with the Russian Federation,
Kazakstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, and both in the
framework of the Almaty meeting and on a bilateral
basis - to neutralize the negative impact of the ongoing
intra-Afghan conflict and to secure the common interests
shared by our countries in the region. This was one of the
topics discussed at the consultative meeting of the
Ministers for Foreign Affairs of Central Asia and the
Russian Federation, held on 5 April 1997 in Dushanbe. In
their joint declaration, the participants in that meeting
reaffirmed the readiness of their countries to continue to
cooperate closely to ensure the security of the southern
borders of the Commonwealth of Independent States,
particularly in the Tajik-Afghan sector of the common
border. They also called upon concerned countries to
promote actively a political settlement of the Afghan
problem.
Tajikistan, which strictly pursues a policy of non-
interference in the internal affairs of the neighbouring
Islamic State of Afghanistan, and which acknowledges the
right of the Afghan people to choose whatever political
system they see fit, believes that the warring parties should
put an immediate end to hostilities and should start to
explore ways and means of achieving agreement in order to
restore peace in the country. At the same time, the
legitimate interests of all ethnic and religious groups and
regions must be taken into account. In this connection, we
cannot fail to be alarmed by the fact that the Taliban
movement, under various pretexts, is frustrating all attempts
to begin an intra-Afghan dialogue at a responsible level and
has also rejected every invitation to sit down at the
negotiating table, whether from individual States or from
the United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan.
Tajikistan wholeheartedly supports the efforts of the
United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan, headed by
Mr. H011, and is prepared to give it every assistance. We
believe that the United Nations and its Member States must
intensify their efforts to resolve the Afghan problem before
the situation gets even worse. We share the Secretary-
General's view that we must all ensure that our actions are
coordinated in order to step up international pressure on the
Afghan sides and to induce them to resolve the conflict
through peaceful means. It is quite clear that no single
Afghan military-political faction should impose its will on
the others.
We also believe that United Nations resolutions and
decisions on Afghanistan provide an excellent basis for
exploring ways and means to resolve the conflict. What we
need now is for all these resolutions to be implemented
strictly. This means, first and foremost, that there should be
no outside interference in the internal affairs of Afghanistan
and that an end should be put to the supply of weapons and
the provision of any military or logistical assistance to the
warring factions. We also expect that the forthcoming
second meeting of concerned countries on Afghanistan will
help achieve consensus on how to approach an Afghan
settlement and will suggest additional ways and means to
strengthen the peacekeeping efforts of the United Nations.
The President: I shall now make a statement in my
capacity as the representative of Portugal.
The Presidency of the European Union has already
stated the common views of its member States on
Afghanistan. Therefore, I will emphasize only certain
elements of my country's position with regard the
situation in that country.
As the fighting continues, we urge the parties to halt
hostilities. A ceasefire should be the first step, to enable
them to begin real negotiations aimed at a political
settlement. Only in that way will the territorial integrity
of Afghanistan be maintained and will the Afghan people
be able to enjoy peace as an independent and sovereign
country.
Yet this may not be at hand, as one of the parties
seems to be convinced that it is in a position to take over
the whole country militarily. But the past 18 years of war
in Afghanistan lead us to believe that a military victory
by one of the warring parties will not bring an end to the
fighting. The United Nations must help to break this cycle
and induce the parties to move forward towards a political
settlement. The Security Council must send a precise,
concise and clear message in support of the United
Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan. We must make
sure that the parties and their external backers get this
message.
This open meeting of the Council is instrumental in
sending the international community's message that the
United Nations is committed to a settlement in
Afghanistan. With that purpose, the Council fully backs
the efforts of the Organization's main instrument in
Afghanistan, the United Nations Special Mission. The
United Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan plays a
central role in that process and all United Nations
Members must cooperate with it, by coordinating any
initiatives regarding Afghanistan with the Head of the
Mission, Mr. Norbert Holl.
For too long, Afghanistan has been subject to
interference from outside, which has only served to
prolong the conflict. Like others, we call for an end to
such interference and an end to the supply of arms and
ammunition to the factions, which continues despite the
denials of those involved. I would like to recall that
following the adoption of Security Council resolution
1076 (1996), the European Union decided to impose an
arms embargo on Afghanistan. We urge others to follow the
same pattern.
Two other extremely worrying features of the Afghan
conflict continue: drug trafficking and the existence of
terrorist training camps. These two factors not only help
fuel the conflict but also constitute a serious threat to peace
and security in the whole region. We urge the parties to put
an end to these intolerable destabilizing practices.
Every new day of war in Afghanistan brings misery
and suffering to the civilian population. And every day that
Afghanistan remains without a broad-based interim
Government and an effective civilian administration, the
country is pushed further backwards on the scale of
economic and human development. In the humanitarian
field, the fighting has caused heavy casualties and has
forced thousands of civilians to flee their homes and many
more to flee the country. We, too, call on all factions to
cooperate with the delivery of humanitarian aid to all the
people of Afghanistan, irrespective of their ethnic group,
race or gender. Portugal expresses its deep concern about
the widespread violations of fundamental human rights in
Afghanistan, in particular the intolerable measures imposed
by the Taliban affecting the rights of girls and women.
The Security Council must make it known to all the
factions that they are responsible not only for complying
with humanitarian law, but also for respecting and
implementing international human rights standards with
regard to each and every citizen in Afghanistan.
The United Nations stands ready to assist the parties
in reaching peace and national reconciliation. But the
parties bear the primary responsibility in this task.
Those countries which have been channelling
humanitarian assistance to Afghanistan would certainly
prefer to divert resources to the huge reconstruction needs
of the country. But the Afghan parties should be made
aware that this will not happen until peace is achieved.
I now resume my function as President of the Council.
The Acting Minister for Foreign Affairs of
Afghanistan has asked to speak. I now call on him.
Mr. Ghafoorzai (Afghanistan): At the outset, I would
like to sincerely thank, in the name of the Afghan nation,
all those who have participated during these last two days
in the debate on Afghanistan. On behalf of tormented
Afghan women, I would especially like to thank all those
countries that took a strong stance in defence of the God-
given rights of women in Afghanistan against the brutal,
un-Islamic, uncivilized behaviour and deeds of the
Taliban, in violation of basic human rights, basic
principles of democracy and basic principles of the United
Nations Charter to which we are all committed.
We have heard the appeals made in the debate by
members of the Security Council and other members of
the United Nations to all of the Afghan conflicting sides
to choose negotiations instead of conflict and war. As far
as the Islamic State of Afghanistan is concerned, I can
assure all Council members that these appeals will be
communicated and will be heard. As far as we are
concerned, we have adopted a policy of respecting both
General Assembly and Security Council resolutions. We
have expressed our readiness to support Mr. Holl's
Mission. We have also expressed our support for any
negotiated political settlement, at any venue, on any
platform.
It has been, and continues to be, the Taliban who
have adopted an intransigent attitude towards the United
Nations. This reality is reflected in the records of the
General Assembly and of the Security Council.
We also heard a statement today by Ambassador
Kamal of Pakistan. We were not caught by surprise, but
we were somewhat disappointed, because the Prime
Minister of Pakistan had promised that he would
reconsider the policy of the new Pakistani Government
with regard to the issue of Afghanistan. However, the
statement made by the Ambassador of Pakistan was the
only one with a totally different tone and spirit, when we
compare it with the statements made by all representatives
who took part in the debate.
Security Council members may recall that at one of
the consultation meetings of the Council, it was reported
that the former Minister of the Interior of Pakistan, Mr.
Naseerullah Babar, had stated in a meeting in Mazar-i-
Sharif that he had power of attorney from the Taliban.
The Council members were surprised to hear that; yet it
was once again repeated by the representative of the
Secretariat that this is exactly what the former Minister of
the Interior of Pakistan had said.
Upon hearing the Pakistani Ambassador's statement,
it became somewhat clear that the Government of
Pakistan is still trying to lend some kind of legitimacy to
the Taliban mercenaries. When we say mercenaries, I
think we have adequate reasons to justify describing the
Taliban as a mercenary group. We have presented and
submitted more than adequate documentation that they are
being trained, financed, armed and equipped in Pakistani
territory, in Quetta, and then they are being sent into
Afghanistan for operations.
The Ambassador of Pakistan made some suggestions.
First of all, he was of the opinion that the Taliban are not
the kind of power to be washed away easily. We have
never advocated that the Taliban should not be heard, that
they should not have any role in shaping the future political
situation of Afghanistan. It is the Taliban who have
continuously rejected any proposal for dialogue and
negotiations.
By inviting the New York-based Taliban
representative, the Ambassador of Pakistan even approached
the point of giving the exact location and address of the
Taliban office in New York. It was somewhat surprising.
He was inviting the New York Taliban under the Arria
formula.
That would constitute a recognition that the current
contacts between Mr. H011 and the Taliban are useless and
inadequate. Moreover, I wonder whether there is any need
for the Taliban to have a voice in the United Nations as
long as they enjoy the presence of a loyal representative
here.
For the Council to listen to the Taliban under the Arria
formula would basically run counter to the resolutions of
the General Assembly with regard to mercenaries,
especially those who are used against the right to self-
determination of peoples throughout the world. That would
definitely establish a dangerous precedent.
The Ambassador of Pakistan said that he would prefer
the "vacant seat" formula to be used for Afghanistan, and
he referred to a decision of the Organization of the Islamic
Conference. I was not clear about the decision to which he
referred, because the Islamic State of Afghanistan continues
to represent Afghanistan at the Organization of the Islamic
Conference. There have been many gatherings and
meetings, the last as recently as three weeks ago. The
representative of the Islamic State of Afghanistan
represented Afghanistan at the meeting of the Organization
of the Islamic Conference, that was held, at ambassadorial
level, in New York.
What happened in Islamabad? I think that the presence
of some esteemed leaders of Islamic countries at the
commemoration of the fiftieth anniversary of the creation
of Pakistan was used by the host country for political
gain, in favour of the Taliban. The Ambassador of
Pakistan also referred to the statement made by
Commander Massoud, in which he indicated his
resoluteness to continue to fight on in various battles
against the Taliban. Yes, he said that; he made that
statement. As long as the Taliban continue to reject any
proposal for dialogue and political settlement, Commander
Massoud and the other members of the Supreme Council
for the Defence of Afghanistan have no option but to
continue to defend the territorial integrity, national unity
and sovereignty of Afghanistan.
In brief, I would like to put on the record of the
Security Council the fact that tolerance of the Taliban and
their supporters would mean tolerance of human rights
violations; justification of obscurantism; opposition to the
principles of democracy; rejectionism; and a continued
intransigent attitude towards the resolutions of the General
Assembly and the Security Council.
The President: The representative of Pakistan has
asked to speak. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Kamal (Pakistan): I do not intend to respond to
the statement that we have just heard, coming as it does
from a person who has neither de facto control, nor de
jure legitimacy within his own country. But it is,
unfortunately, full of inaccuracies, which may, somehow,
lead the Security Council to base its own decisions on
false information. It is that information which needs to be
put correctly on the record.
I made the statement that the Organization of the
Islamic Conference had decided to follow a "vacant seat"
approach with regard to Afghanistan. That formula was
used in the Jakarta meeting of the Organization of the
Islamic Conference, and in the Islamabad meeting. Those
were not ambassadorial-level meetings; they were at the
ministerial level and above. It was at that level that the
Organization of the Islamic Conference decided not to
have anybody sitting in the Afghanistan seat at its
meetings.
A statement was made about Pakistan's involvement
in Afghanistan. We have said repeatedly that we have no
favourites in Afghanistan. We are convinced that the
Afghans themselves will be able to find peace and
security in their country only through a broad-based
dispensation. We know that those in this Chamber who
claim to represent Afghanistan do not have de jure
legitimacy. They were chosen as the result of a particular
formula evolved in Islamabad by which they were given
eight months, no more, to organize elections only. They did
not do it. At the end of the eight months - minority
Government that they were - they tried to hold on to their
seats, thinking that they could overrun the whole of
Afghanistan. That was a moral denial of the commitment
that they had given to their own Afghan colleagues.
It is their insistence on trying to run matters alone -
as a minority which, as is generally known, has the backing
of no more than 15 per cent of the population - that has
led to the situation in which Afghanistan finds itself today.
Pakistan is a neighbouring country of Afghanistan and I
agree with all the representatives of other neighbouring
countries who have spoken today and have expressed fear
about the fallout from the situation, the root cause of which
is the insistence of this particular Rabbani regime on
holding on to power, and its failure to honour commitments
solemnly made to colleagues and in the holiest of holies of
the Muslim world.
It is not in anger that I speak, because I cannot be
angry with people who have no legitimacy. But pain can be
caused even by a mosquito bite, and it is that pain to which
I am responding. We are here in the Security Council to try
to help find a solution to the problem of Afghanistan. It is
not an easy situation. We are faced with a country that is
ethnically divided. The formula with which we, as
outsiders, have tried to come forward, is that the country
requires a broad-based government. The United Nations has
subscribed to that formula. It is fundamental to the United
Nations Special Mission to Afghanistan. That is the formula
on which we need to go forward. In order to proceed on the
basis of that formula, it is essential for this body to hear all
the representatives of the Afghan people. It cannot decide
in isolation. That was the point that we made: it is
incumbent upon the Security Council, if it wants to find a
logical and legal solution that will be durable in
Afghanistan, to base such a solution on hearing the Afghan
people across the board, by any formula that may be
deemed fit - inside this Chamber, or outside it if
necessary. The parties must be heard; they must be heard
before conclusions are reached. The facile argument has
been made that to hear them would mean bypassing the
special representative. So why are we sitting here for this
debate? We do not need it: the special representative is
good enough. We all have respect for Mr. Norbert Holl.
But we are meeting here today so that we can
exchange views. And those views have to be based on
dialogue and a willingness to listen to all before deciding.
I do hope that the Security Council will prove itself to be
up to that task of listening to all the representatives of the
Afghan people by whatever formula it deems fit.
The President: The Acting Minister for Foreign
Affairs of Afghanistan has asked to speak again, but I
have to seek the opinion of the members of the Council
before granting this request.
Mr. Cabral (Guinea-Bissau) (interpretation from French): We have great respect for the delegations
represented here and great consideration for the positions
they express here.
I do not think it would serve the purpose we are
trying to achieve here to allow our Afghan friends and
our colleague from Pakistan to engage in an exchange of
views that could only exacerbate the debate and could
divert us from the task we have set ourselves here:
working towards peace in Afghanistan through dialogue.
Let me therefore appeal to the Acting Minister for
Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan and to my colleague Mr.
Kamal to give up their debate, however, useful it may be,
so that we can find our way by using the points we have
already heard, which seem sufficiently clear for us to
fashion the elements to be contained in the draft statement
we intend to submit to the members of the Council for
approval.
The President (interpretation from French): With
your agreement, Mr. Minister, we shall continue.
(spoke in English)
There are no further speakers. The resumption of
this meeting to continue the consideration of the item on
the agenda will be fixed in consultation with the members
of the Council.
The meeting was suspended at 5.55 pm.
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