S/PV.4512Resumption1 Security Council
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The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Costa Rica. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Niehaus (Costa Rica) (spoke in Spanish): I
am deeply honoured to speak to the Security Council
on behalf of the 19 States members of the Rio Group,
in my capacity as the representative of Costa Rica, the
Pro Tempore Secretariat.
Last Friday, 12 April, the Presidents of the States
members of the Rio Group, meeting in San Jose, Costa
Rica, agreed on a declaration of principles in which
they reiterated their firm condemnation of terrorism.
The Presidents declared:
"We forcefully condemn and reject
terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and
we support all regional and international
measures of cooperation and coordination to
suppress it, within the framework of strict
compliance with human rights and international
humanitarian law and other principles and norms
of international law, and in conformity with the
resolutions and instruments of the United Nations
and the inter-American system, as well as with
other relevant initiatives on this subject, in
particular through the creation of mechanisms for
the exchange of information and judicial
cooperation to facilitate the prevention and
suppression of acts of terrorism. The fight against
terrorism should also be based on the promotion
of a culture of peace, tolerance and solidarity. We
agree to promote the adoption of the Inter-
American Convention against terrorism during
the thirty-second session of the General
Assembly of the Organization of American
States, which will be held in Barbados."
I have requested that declaration to be circulated
as an official document of the Security Council.
As Mrs. Mary Robinson, the United Nations High
Commissioner for Human Rights, has stressed,
terrorism is a threat to the most fundamental human
rights, the right to life. The formulation of a common
approach to counter-terrorism serves human rights.
With that spirit, the Rio Group fully supports the
content of resolution 1373 (2001) adopted on
28 September 2001, as well as the work of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee.
The fight against the scourge of terrorism
requires true universal cooperation with the view to
upholding the basic principles of peaceful coexistence
among all peoples and nations as well as guaranteeing
peace, security and development for all humanity. In
that context, the Counter-Terrorism Committee plays a
key role in the coordination of universal action against
this crime.
The Rio Group welcomes the excellent work of
the Committee in its analysis of national reports
submitted in conformity with resolution 1373 (2001). It
acknowledges the leadership of its Chairman,
Ambassador Sir Jeremy Greenstock, and of its Vice-
Chairmen. In particular, we are grateful for the
opportunity for constructive dialogue between the
Security Council and Member States that has been
provided by the submission of national reports. We
further note the Committee's intention to finalize the
consideration of the first reports by 31 May, an
enormous task considering the complexity and breadth
of the 143 documents that have been submitted.
The struggle against terrorism calls for the
creation of institutional and police procedures that will
effectively protect the population. We believe that
special attention should be given to the dangerous
relationship among drug trafficking networks, terrorist
groups, illicit traffic in weapons and money-
laundering. We must proscribe the transfer of weapons
to all rebel and extremist groups as well as to the
Governments that support them. Similarly, it is
indispensable to increase technology transfer bilateral
cooperation in the area of police and judicial training,
and financial assistance to all States that require them
to prevent and suppress terrorism.
In that context, constant dialogue and
communication among the Counter-Terrorism
Committee, Member States and regional and
subregional organizations creates an ideal framework
to coordinate and invigorate intergovernmental and
inter-institutional cooperation and assistance to prevent
terrorism and to strengthen national justice systems. In
this regard, we are grateful for the Committee's
establishment of a list of possible sources of expert
advice and assistance.
For its part, the Rio Group has held a series of
consultations in compliance with resolution 1373
(2001) with a view to preventing and suppressing
terrorist acts and to effectively implementing the
Security Council's decisions on this matter. In that
regard, I would like to highlight the document prepared
by legal experts of the Rio Group on the
implementation of resolution 1373 (2001), which was
been circulated as an annex to document S/2002/ 107.
As the United Nations High Commissioner for
Human Rights has aptly said, combating terrorism
requires that we tackle the sources of insecurity at their
root. The Rio Group is aware that extremism is fuelled
by political oppression, extreme poverty, hunger,
destitution, disease and the violation of fundamental
human rights. We know that respect for human rights
and democracy in all fields is the best protection
against terrorism. The fight against terrorism must be a
reason to reaffirm basic rights. True and sustainable
peace is born of mutual respect, dialogue and the
rejection of violence.
For that reason, we believe that a comprehensive
strategy to ensure the respect for human dignity, in all
spheres, is required. We are convinced that fighting this
crime must lead us to build more open and tolerant
societies, where a true culture of peace, tolerance and
solidarity reigns. We are confident that the work of the
Security Council and its Counter-Terrorism Committee
will enable us to make progress towards that goal.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Australia. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Stuart (Australia): Thank you, Mr. President,
for convening this timely and important meeting on an
issue of deep interest and continuing concern to
Member States. We would like to use the opportunity
today to summarize for the Council Australia's own
efforts to strengthen our counter-terrorism capacity and
in particular our efforts to enhance our cooperation
with other countries, especially in our own region.
Before doing so, I wish to join many others today
in acknowledging and expressing our appreciation for
the sustained effort by the members of the Security
Council and the Secretariat staff working with them to
establish the Council's Counter-Terrorism Committee
(CTC). Sir Jeremy Greenstock deserves the many
accolades he has received for this, but we are also
keenly aware that many other colleagues have worked
hard and well to develop the important role that the
CTC is now playing in strengthening international
efforts against terrorism.
The 11 September terrorist attacks on the United
States demonstrated in stark, tragic terms the current
weaknesses in the international counter-terrorism
regime. They revealed that the existing counter-
terrorism instruments, for example, while enjoying
wide adherence, did not provide sufficient
accountability or verification of their implementation.
Other weaknesses included insufficient information
exchange and the lack of assistance for capacity-
building. It is heartening to hear, for example in
today's debate, many countries addressing these issues.
Security Council resolution 1373 (2001) has
provided a comprehensive framework for international
action against terrorism. It is a blueprint for addressing
these weaknesses, particularly in relation to
suppressing the financing of terrorism. A key aspect of
resolution 1373 (2001) is its requirement that all
Member States report on the national and regional
implementation of counter-terrorism efforts. Australia
joins others today in encouraging all Member States to
implement fully these and the other provisions of
resolution 1373 (2001).
Even before 11 September, Australia had in place
substantial measures to combat terrorism. As host to
the 2000 Olympics, we had recent experience in
addressing the terrorist threat. Since December 2001,
when we submitted Australia's first report to the
Counter-Terrorism Committee, the Government of
Australia has introduced to Parliament comprehensive
new laws specifically directed to strengthen the capacity
of law enforcement to prevent, detect, investigate and
prosecute terrorist acts; strengthen measures to detect,
freeze and seize terrorist assets and eliminate terrorist
financing; and enable Australia to become a party to
the International Convention for the Suppression of the
Financing of Terrorism and the International
Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings.
These efforts reflect Australia's firm resolve to further
strengthen its domestic counter-terrorism laws and
practices.
But we realize that, as is outlined in resolution
1373 (2001), counter-terrorism activity cannot be
limited to efforts at the national level. Bilateral,
regional and international cooperation is essential to
effectively combat terrorism in all its forms and in all
its locations. At the bilateral level, Australia is pleased
to report that on 7 February 2002 we signed a
memorandum of understanding with Indonesia on
combating international terrorism.
The memorandum provides a framework for
bilateral cooperation to prevent, suppress and combat
international terrorism through the exchange and flow
of information and intelligence. It also provides for
cooperation between law- enforcement agencies and
the strengthening of capacity- building through
networking, training and education programmes, visits
and joint operations. We are currently considering a
number of initiatives to implement this memorandum.
In our own region, Australia is actively
contributing to promoting cooperation against
terrorism. From 25 to 27 March, together with the
United States, New Zealand and the Pacific Islands
Forum secretariat, Australia co-hosted a Pacific Islands
counter-terrorism workshop, which was held in
Honolulu. The workshop successfully raised awareness
among Pacific Island countries of the nature and threat
posed by international terrorism and of the measures
needed to combat it. It produced a report that will serve
as a guide to Pacific Island countries in giving effect to
resolution 1373 (2001) and in implementing the
counter-terrorism conventions. The workshop
emphasized the importance of preventing terrorist
financing, strengthening border controls, and
developing and implementing appropriate domestic
counter-terrorism legislative regimes, with a focus on
the particular regional environment for Pacific Island
countries.
Australia also participated in an Association of
South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN) Regional Forum
workshop on financial measures against terrorism,
which was also held in Honolulu, from 24 to 26 March.
That workshop emphasized the need to coordinate
international measures to suppress the financing of
terrorism, as well as the role the ASEAN Regional
Forum and other regional groups can play in
developing mechanisms for information-sharing. In
short, Australia sees both the Pacific Islands Forum
and the ASEAN Regional Forum as regional bodies
with a significant contribution to make to counter-
terrorism.
Although we have been active at the national and
regional levels, we recognize that further steps and a
long-term committed effort are required. Later this
week, from 17 to 19 April in Bangkok, Australia will
co-host with Thailand a workshop of the ASEAN
Regional Forum on the prevention of terrorism. The
Bangkok workshop will enable Forum participants to
obtain a greater understanding of practical measures to
prevent terrorist activity, with a focus on border
control, security measures for international events,
measures to detect explosive materials, and aviation
security. More generally, the workshop will examine
means of preventing terrorism and enhancing security
through improved information flow and intelligence
exchange. It will be the second in what is developing
into a series of ASEAN Regional Forum workshops
focused on achieving concrete and practical outcomes
to improve security and regional cooperation in
counter-terrorism.
Australia strongly supports the work done in the
United Nations to ensure that there is a broad
international front against terrorism. As stressed by the
Prime Minister of Australia, the Honourable John
Howard, when he addressed the Council on 30 January
this year, in implementing the important resolutions
recently agreed in New York, Australia is looking to
the Council for an emphasis on action rather than on
rhetoric.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Turkey. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Cengizer (Turkey): Mr. President, at the
outset, I would like to thank you for convening this
open meeting on one of the most important issues of
our time. Your initiative gives Member States the
opportunity to put forward their views on ways of
combating international terrorism as well as to address
the work of the Counter- Terrorism Committee.
I would like also to thank whole-heartedly Sir
Jeremy Greenstock, Chairman of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee, for his cogent briefing and for
the remarkable work that he and his colleagues are
doing.
We know without a doubt that terrorism poses a
very great danger to civilization as we know it,
threatens the fundamental rights of the individual and
endangers the fabric of societies everywhere and at all
times. It represents a violation of human rights, in
whatever form it occurs. As such, it is a potent means
of oppression.
Turkey has given unequivocal support to efforts
aimed at combating in earnest this modern scourge. We
have been trying for some time now to impress on the
international community the need to defend a
bipartisan position on this issue. Last year's tragic
events should have put to rest any doubts about the true
nature of terrorism. There can be no degree of support
and no leniency with respect to a phenomenon that has
absolute and irredeemable consequences.
Let me say it loud and clear: there is no such
thing as "better terrorists". There are no worthy causes
pursued by terrorists. Their very choice of that method
nullifies the end they desire.
Furthermore, in this increasingly global world, it
is more and more common to see terrorist groups
forming complex relationships and interrelated
structures among themselves. After all, from their
perspective, this is an easy and achievable thing to do.
However, it is worrying and deeply disturbing
that some segments of the international community are
still shying away from achieving a similarly feasible
cluster of means in combating terrorism. Definitional
problems might conceal important philosophical
differences, but the results of terrorism will be the
same for everyone.
It is high time that we choose the only viable
option before us: intensify international cooperation
against terrorism, and stop looking for worthy terrorist
causes, as there are none. It is on this understanding
that we are actively involved in the work of United
Nations bodies.
We regard Security Council resolution 1373
(2001) as an effective instrument and fully support its
implementation. Our appreciation goes to the Counter-
Terrorism Committee for its work. We look forward to
working closely with the Committee and are
cooperating with other States in our region and beyond,
as well as within the fold of relevant international
organizations. As testimony of our degree of
commitment to deal forcefully with this scourge, we
have signed nearly 50 bilateral agreements concerning
cooperation in combating terrorism.
Turkey is party to 10 of the existing 12 United
Nations conventions. The process of ratification of the
remaining two is under way. We support the early
completion of the ongoing discussions on a
comprehensive convention against international
terrorism and on an international convention on the
suppression of nuclear terrorism.
In this context, we attach particular importance to
the denial of safe haven to terrorists and to their
extradition. It would be neither prudent nor just to
allow terrorists not to face a blanket regime or to
enable them to benefit from impunity with respect to
the offences they have committed.
Turkey, as an associate country of the European
Union and one that normally aligns itself with the
European Union's declared positions on a wide
spectrum of issues, regrets today that it cannot do the
same with respect to this vastly important issue.
We agree with the essence and the general thrust
of the statement made on behalf of the European
Union. However, we cannot sustain a credible fight
against terrorism if we address the problem only
partially and are selective with regard to terrorist
groups and organizations. We believe that the list of
individuals, entities and organizations annexed to the
common position of 27 December 2001, to which the
European Union statement referred, is incomplete in its
present form and is deficient. We hope that known
terrorist organizations will be included in that list. We
are waiting to see a more resolute stance on the part of
the European Union that befits the philosophy
contained in its statement.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Cambodia. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Ouch Borith (Cambodia): I have the honour
to speak on behalf of the members of the Association
of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN) - namely,
Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, the Lao
People's Democratic Republic, Malaysia, Myanmar,
the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Viet Nam -
on this matter which is of great importance to all of us.
Seven months after resolution 1373 (2001) was
adopted, ASEAN notes the hard work of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee (CTC) under the stewardship of
Sir Jeremy Greenstock. At this juncture, ASEAN
wishes to acknowledge Chairman Greenstock's
leadership, his commitment to an active and
transparent dialogue between the CTC and Member
States, and his determination to pursue what the
Committee has set out to accomplish. ASEAN
welcomes the establishment of a directory of technical
assistance. ASEAN also encourages the Committee,
through Chairman Greenstock, to continue networking
efforts with various regional and international
organizations, which we consider relevant and useful.
I am pleased to inform the Council that since our
last meeting ASEAN has further stepped up its
commitment to combat terrorism. At the political level,
I am happy to say that our foreign ministers discussed
this crucial issue at great length during their retreat in
Phuket, Thailand on 21 February 2002. They took that
opportunity to update each other on their countries'
counter-terrorism efforts, and they stressed the
importance of closer cooperation and joint efforts
among ASEAN member countries, especially in
intelligence and information sharing.
At the same time, ASEAN has also undertaken
practical measures. Our law enforcement agencies have
deepened their cooperation through sharing
information and best practices. We also recognize the
importance of developing regional capacity-building
programmes to enhance members' capabilities in
countering terrorism. ASEAN has also increased its
role and involvement with the international community
within existing frameworks such as "ASEAN + 3", the
ASEAN dialogue partners and the ASEAN Regional
Forum.
ASEAN is mindful of the importance of
enhancing the relevant channels of cooperation - such
as through bilateral and multilateral arrangements -
within and outside ASEAN. Furthermore, we continue
to learn from other regional and international
organizations in the efforts to combat terrorism in
accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and
other international laws.
The successful conclusion of the ASEAN ad hoc
experts group meeting held in Bali, Indonesia, from 21
to 23 January 2002 on the work programme to
implement the ASEAN plan of action to combat
transnational crime is another crucial step forward. The
meeting involved eight task forces, which dealt with
combating terrorism, trafficking in persons, arms
smuggling, sea piracy, money laundering, illicit drug
trafficking, international economic crime and cyber
crime, respectively.
Furthermore, ASEAN member countries also
participated in the regional ministerial conference on
people smuggling, trafficking in persons and related
transnational crime held in Bali from 26 to 28 February
2002. There the ministers expressed deep concern
about the possible links between terrorist elements and
people smuggling and trafficking operations and stated
that these activities were now rivalling narcotics in
profitability.
Another important mechanism for us is the
ASEAN Regional Forum - ARF. Under this forum,
the ARF members recently participated in a workshop
on financial measures against terrorism in Honolulu
from 24 to 26 March. I would like to take this
opportunity to sincerely thank the Governments of the
United States and Malaysia for this initiative. The
outcome of the workshop was very productive. At the
workshop, ARF members had an opportunity to discuss
such vital issues as terrorist financial activities and an
international framework for combating them, the roles
of regional and international multilateral organizations,
and national implementation of the international
framework of financial measures against terrorism.
Another ARF workshop on the prevention of terrorism,
which is being organized by the Thai and Australian
Governments, is scheduled to be held in Bangkok from
17 to 19 April. In order to build further on the
outcomes of the workshops, their results will be
reported to ARF members when they meet again, in
Hanoi, from 22 to 24 April for the ARF inter-sessional
support group meeting.
In addition, a special ASEAN ministerial meeting
on transnational crime will be held on 21 May in Kuala
Lumpur. This signifies the firm commitment of
ASEAN members to implement the ASEAN
Declaration on Joint Action to Counter Terrorism. The
meeting will also represent a significant step by
ASEAN to heed the call of the CTC to enhance
coordination of national, subregional and international
efforts to strengthen a global response to this serious
challenge and threat to international security.
I am gratified to say that ASEAN member
countries, though faced by myriad constraints and
challenges resulting from the recent and devastating
regional and global economic downturn, have done
their best to implement Security Council resolution
1373 (2001). The most evident step in that direction, is,
among other things, that all ASEAN members have
submitted their reports in compliance with paragraph 6
of the resolution. We hope that those who have not
done so will be encouraged to follow suit without
further delay.
Finally, Mr. President, let me assure you of
ASEAN's continued cooperation to counter, prevent
and suppress all terrorist acts in accordance with the
Charter of the United Nations, taking into account
resolution 1373 (2001) and all relevant United Nations
resolutions.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Peru. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table and
to make his statement.
Mr. Balarezo (Peru) (spoke in Spanish): First of
all, Peru of course associates itself with the statement
made by the Ambassador of Costa Rica on behalf of
the member countries of the Rio Group.
I would like to begin my statement by conveying
Peru's satisfaction with the progress made to date by
the Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC). We believe
that that progress is the direct result of the resolute
leadership of Ambassador Sir Jeremy Greenstock and
of his Vice-Chairmen. It is also due to the firm
commitment of Member States like Peru that want to
end this scourge.
Not long ago, during the holding of the
Monterrey Summit - during which we sought new
forms of cooperation to give momentum to
development and to eradicate poverty - and just hours
shy of the official visit of the President of the United
States to my country, we in Peru were the victims of a
serious terrorist attack that left behind the dark and
ghostly shadow of destruction and suffering. That
attack, like any other terrorist act that negates, in the
most basic sense, the right to life, security, tranquil
coexistence and peace, had no other effect than to
reaffirm Peru's deepest conviction that it must combat
terrorism using the weapons of international law, the
rule of law and the supreme value of proper moral
conduct.
The Counter-Terrorism Committee has taken
decisive steps to confront the sources and means that
enable this scourge of humanity to emerge, develop and
operate. Progress has been made in preventing and
repressing the funding of all types of international
terrorism and collaboration with it. We must continue
to make every effort until money laundering, drug
trafficking and other transnational crimes no longer
serve as the source of, or support for, terrorist acts.
This should be our goal and we should not rest until it
is accomplished.
But a frontal attack against terrorism requires
much more from the international community. This
struggle requires deepening and widening the scope of
technical and financial cooperation to many other
areas, so that all countries of the Organization can truly
control, suppress and defend themselves against
terrorism. It also requires that we prevent the
emergence of "hyper-terrorism" capable of mass
destruction, the consequences of which are
unimaginable.
To that end, and in accordance with Security
Council resolution 1377 (2001), Peru believes that the
CTC, with the cooperation of other relevant entities
and additional funding, could develop or promote an
extensive cooperation programme with countries that
so request. In our view, such international cooperation
might include, inter alia, the following programmes.
First, a programme for legal assistance to ensure
that domestic laws are compatible with the 12 United
Nations conventions concerning terrorism, as well as,
of course, to ensure their effective implementation. For
Peru, an appropriate juridical framework should also
consider the obligations of States to prosecute,
extradite, try and punish those engaged in terrorist acts.
Secondly, a programme of "smart" borders that
allows the strengthening of coordination and action in
real time among agencies that control and police the
cross-border movement of persons, goods and services.
The use of new technologies and the experience of
various countries in this sphere will be fundamental.
Thirdly, the fight against terrorism could become
an obstacle to trade and the free circulation of goods
and services, not only by increasing costs but also by
eroding the narrow profit margins of many poor
economies. Certainly, this is an area that must be
analysed in detail, and we must find the best ways to
diminish such effects. We must avoid creating barriers
to the normal transit of persons, goods and services,
because that would run counter to the globalization
process, which should unite peoples, not separate them.
Finally, for Peru, victory over terrorism can be
achieved only when democratic values, the rule of law
and respect for human dignity prevail. For that reason,
it is very important to develop a programme that will
strengthen awareness of human rights and their legal
foundation and will ensure that the fight against
terrorism is carried out with respect for the civil rights
and political freedoms of all persons, including
immigrants, as recognized in the various international
instruments approved by all the members of the United
Nations community.
In conclusion, we are convinced that
strengthening the Committee's work from the
subregional and regional perspective is most welcome,
and I believe it is a course of action that we should
pursue.
The President (spoke in Russian): I should like
to inform the Council that I have received letters from
the representatives of Israel and Malaysia, in which
they request to be invited to participate in the
discussion of the item on the Council's agenda. In
conformity with the usual practice, I propose, with the
consent of the Council, to invite those representatives
to participate in the discussion without the right to
vote, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the
Charter and rule 37 of the Council's provisional rules
of procedure.
There being no objection, it is so decided.
At the invitation of the President, Mr. Jacob
(Israel) and Mr. Zainuddin (Malaysia) took the
seats reservedfor them at the side of the Council
Chamber.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Pakistan. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Ahmed (Pakistan): At the outset, I should
like to congratulate you, Sir, on the substantive nature
and frequency of the Council's meetings under your
presidency this month.
Once again, we return to this Chamber to discuss
the subject of terrorism and the response of the world
community to counter it. The steps taken by the
Security Council to combat this serious threat to
international peace and security, which include the
adoption of various resolutions, including resolutions
1368 (2001), 1373 (2001), 1377 (2001) and 1390
(2002), as well as the establishment of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee (CTC), are unprecedented in
their approach and global in their scope. While these
measures are indeed necessary and must be
implemented, there is also a need to look beyond such
immediate steps. I think we all agree on these
imperatives, and I should like to commend the diligent
stewardship of Sir Jeremy Greenstock as he steers the
work of the Committee.
Terrorism is the curse of our time. It haunts all
societies and all regions. It stalks us all. As we seek to
grapple with this challenge, our approach should not be
cosmetic or guided by emotion or anger. Surely the
perpetrators of terrorism must be brought to justice.
But our battle must not be confined to retaliation and
retribution. We must unearth the source of the problem
and diagnose the disease beneath the skin. Mere
bandages will not heal wounds caused by the injustices
of systems and societies. We must try to understand
and grapple with the causes that force human beings to
kill human beings. Why is humanity under assault,
after all? Why is humanity becoming devoid of
humanity?
No matter what actions we might take against
terrorism, this faceless enemy, which lurks in the
shadows of fear and frustration, breeds on hatred and
disillusionment and is fed by ignorance, poverty and
injustice, will not disappear unless we seriously
address what lies behind it. Terrorism will continue to
haunt us until we treat its roots, which lie in the
inequality of societies, the exploitation of the
downtrodden, the denial of fundamental rights and the
sense of injustice. It would be simplistic merely to
focus on the symptoms or their ugly manifestations.
Terrorism, the anathema of this new century, has
to be eliminated, root and branch, in all its forms and
manifestations. And indeed, terrorism has many forms
and manifestations, which should also be included
within the ambit of Security Council resolutions and
within the purview of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee. Those who employ the State apparatus to
trample upon the fundamental and inalienable rights of
people are also perpetrators of terrorism. If, as
according to some, terrorism is defined by the act and
not by the description of the perpetrators, then alien
occupiers and usurpers - especially those who employ
ruthless measures against people under occupation -
also fit that definition.
Pakistan rejects and condemns terrorism in all its
forms and manifestations. We have never condoned
acts of terrorism, and we have been cooperating with
the international community in combating this
universal evil. We in Pakistan will continue to abide by
our obligations under the Charter of the United Nations
and under the resolutions of the Security Council.
President Musharraf has clearly stated our policy on
this matter. In spite of the challenges that Pakistan
faces, we are determined to do what is right and what is
just.
These are unusual times demanding exceptional
responses. In effectively confronting the universal evil
of terrorism, we cannot be oblivious to the need to
address the source and the roots of the problem. It is
time for courageous decisions, for correcting historical
wrongs and for redressing endemic injustices. Our
universal obligation to fight terrorism must not deflect
us from the need for a just, lasting and honourable
settlement of the Kashmir and Palestine issues. It is
time for the Security Council to restore its credibility
and legitimacy and to work as a true instrument of
peace and security, as mandated by the Charter.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Malawi. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Lamba (Malawi): The Malawi delegation, as
Chair of the permanent delegations of the Southern
Africa Development Community (SADC) to the United
Nations, would like to associate itself with the earlier
speakers who underlined without reservation the
importance of this debate on counter-terrorism
measures and, indeed, the excellent briefing this
morning by the Chairman of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee.
Security Council resolution 1373 (2001) of 28
September 2001 emphasizes the urgent need for
cooperation and unity among Member States in the
fight against terrorism in order to avert a repetition of
the tragedy of 11 September 2001, which took place in
New York. Malawi and other SADC States, in strong
support of Security Council resolution 1373 (2001) -
which indeed represents a solid basis for concerted
international partnership in the anti-terrorism
struggle - readily welcomed the creation by the
Security Council of the Counter-Terrorism Committee
to coordinate steps taken by Member States in checking
terrorism. To that end, as will be shown later, Malawi
has put in place several measures to seal up the
loopholes of potential use by terrorists.
Representatives may wish to know that, following
the plenary session of the General Assembly in
December 2001, and in response to General Assembly
resolution 55/158 and Security Council resolutions
1269 (1999) and 1373 (2001), defining terrorism as a
threat to international peace and security, SADC States
demonstrated their concern by drawing up a document,
the Luanda Declaration of 18 December 2001.
SADC maintains the conviction that terrorism
represents the antithesis of socio-economic
development and an unacceptable disturbance to
people's fundamental rights and freedoms, which
deserve protection at any cost. We all agree that the
prerequisite for development is a climate of political,
social and economic stability and security. The triumph
of terrorism must therefore be curtailed in defence of
people's right to life and individual liberties, as defined
in international legal instruments. SADC States are
resolved to contribute to the cooperation between the
United Nations and regional and subregional
organizations against terrorism in its various
manifestations.
To that end, and in line with the Organization of
African Unity (OAU) Convention on the Prevention
and Combating of Terrorism, which was adopted at the
Algiers summit of 14 July 1999 - which SADC had
seen as leading in its thinking about anti-terrorism -
SADC decided to come up with this Luanda
Declaration as its guiding principle in combating
terrorism. In the Declaration, SADC affirms that it will
do everything possible to ratify and incorporate into
national laws all anti-terrorism instruments adopted by
the OAU and the United Nations; combat all forms of
terrorism that disrupt national and regional security,
constitutional arrangements and the organization of
States; exchange information related to persons,
institutions and organizations that are engaged in the
perpetration of terrorism; harmonize legal instruments
in the various States for the prosecution of terrorist
groups; and prevent any attempts to use SADC member
States as bases or support centres for the activities of
terrorist groups or organizations.
Malawi's response to the anti-terrorism crusade
includes the following: the establishment of domestic
anti-terrorism contact points under the chairmanship of
the office of the President and Cabinet; the adoption of
legislation against any terrorist activity, the review of
existing laws for enforcement and the strengthening of
membership in international conventions and protocols;
the intensification of scrutiny by immigration services
of all people entering the country; the strengthening of
aviation security at airports; the control of financial
flows to detect any irregular funds and funding from
external sources; the tightening of security by the
Malawi army, police and national intelligence bureau;
and vigorous cooperation with other Member States in
support of resolution 1373 (2001).
The outlined anti-terrorism agenda of Malawi
forms a common preoccupation of all SADC member
States. However, I would be remiss in my presentation
if I failed to mention some of our limitations in the
presentation of our counter-terrorism measures.
Malawi and most, if not all, other SADC States,
with their weak economies and therefore limited
resources, will clearly require assistance from the
international community. Malawi and all SADC States
appreciate and will utilize the invitation to submit,
through the Counter-Terrorism Committee, our
requirements for the facilitation of our effective
participation in the anti-terrorism struggle. Areas of
need generally include technical assistance, capacity-
building and human resource training, and an upgrade
of technology and equipment to enhance efficiency.
These presented needs will indeed require professional
technical assessments to establish their importance in
the counter-terrorism war.
In conclusion, allow me to reiterate the
determination and commitment among member States
of the Southern Africa Development Community to
supporting the work of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee in implementing the Security Council's
resolution against terrorism. SADC will move in
unison with the rest of the world, determined to make a
notable contribution to rooting out and deterring
terrorism, the violence so destructive to global peace
and security.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Malaysia. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Zainuddin (Malaysia): Mr. President, my
delegation wishes to join others in thanking you for
convening this open meeting of the Council to brief
Member States on the review of and progress in the
implementation of resolution 1373 (2001), which is of
concern to us.
My delegation associates itself with the statement
made by Cambodia on behalf of the members of the
Association of South-East Asian Nations. Moreover,
my delegation wishes to draw the Council's attention to
the declaration of the Organization of the Islamic
Conference (OIC) adopted recently at the special
session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers,
on terrorism, held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia from
lto 3 April, 2002. That declaration will be formally
communicated to you, Sir, as President of the Security
Council, by Mali, the current Chairman of the OIC.
However, as host of the meeting, Malaysia deems it
appropriate to highlight some of the salient points of
that declaration.
In the declaration, the Foreign Ministers stated
their resolve to combat terrorism and to respond to
developments affecting Muslims and Islamic countries
in the aftermath of the 11 September attacks. They
rejected any attempt to link Islam and Muslims to
terrorism, as terrorism has no association with any
religion, civilization or nationality. They reiterated that
preventive action taken to combat terrorism should not
result in ethnic or religious profiling or in the targeting
of a particular community. They condemned acts of
international terrorism in all its forms and
manifestations, including State terrorism, irrespective
of its motives, its perpetrators or its victims, as
terrorism poses a serious threat to international peace
and security and is a grave violation of human rights.
The ministers further reiterated the OIC's
principled position, under international law and the
Charter of the United Nations, on the legitimacy of
resistance to foreign aggression and of the struggle of
peoples under colonial or alien domination and foreign
occupation for national liberation and self-
determination. In that context, they underlined the
urgent need for an internationally agreed definition of
terrorism that differentiates such legitimate struggles
from acts of terrorism.
The Ministers also emphasized the importance of
addressing the root causes of international terrorism,
convinced that the war against terrorism will not
succeed if the environment that breeds terrorism,
including foreign occupation, injustice and exclusion,
is allowed to thrive. They also reaffirmed the OIC's
commitment to international action in combating
international terrorism undertaken in conformity with
the principles of the Charter of the United Nations,
including the principles of non-intervention in internal
affairs and respect for sovereignty and territorial
integrity, as well as with international law and the
relevant international conventions and instruments. In
that regard, they further rejected any unilateral action
taken against any Islamic country on the pretext of
combating international terrorism, as that would
undermine global cooperation against terrorism. They
reiterated the call to convene an international
conference under the auspices of the United Nations to
formulate a joint, organized response of the
international community to terrorism in all its forms
and manifestations.
The special session of the Islamic Conference of
Foreign Ministers, on terrorism, held in Kuala Lumpur
also saw the reaffirmation of the commitment of OIC
members to take action at the national level and
through international cooperation in combating
terrorism through a plan of action. This plan of action
prescribed the establishment of a 13-member, open-
ended, ministerial-level OIC committee on
international terrorism with the mandate to formulate
recommendations on the following matters: measures
to strengthen OIC cooperation and coordination in
combating international terrorism; ways of expediting
the implementation of the OIC Code of Conduct and
the Convention on Combating International Terrorism;
measures to project the true image of Islam, including
through seminars and workshops, to promote a better
understanding of Islam and its principles; measures to
strengthen dialogue and understanding among different
civilizations, cultures and faiths, for instance, building
on initiatives such as the United Nations dialogue
among civilizations and the OIC-European-Union Joint
Forum on civilization and harmony; and other
measures in response to developments affecting
Muslims and Islam arising from action to combat
terrorism. The committee is mandated to study the
work of other international organizations in matters
related to international terrorism and to contribute to
the work of the OIC group in New York in that regard.
The Foreign Ministers also stated that the OIC
will continue to work with other countries and support
the efforts of the international community in combating
international terrorism undertaken under the auspices
of the United Nations in a transparent and impartial
manner and in conformity with the principles of the
Charter of the United Nations, international law and
relevant international conventions and instruments.
That includes implementing relevant Security Council
resolutions, particularly resolution 1373 (2001), as well
expediting Member States' accession to or ratification
of international conventions and protocols relating to
terrorism.
The ministers reaffirmed that the OIC will
undertake efforts towards convening an international
conference under the auspices of the United Nations to
formulate a joint organized international-community
response to terrorism. It will also make every effort at
the international level to promote a collective security
regime responding to the security and development
needs of all countries and to promote a conducive
political, socio-economic environment that will stifle
support for terrorist activities and eliminate the causes
of terrorist acts. The ministers agreed that, at the
national level, OIC member States will continue to
pursue policies and strategies aimed at enhancing the
well-being and prosperity of our peoples, as well as at
addressing and resolving domestic factors that
contribute to terrorism.
The President (spoke in Russian): The next
speaker on my list is the representative of Israel. I
invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Jacob (Israel): Israel is pleased to be
participating in today's debate on terrorism and
strongly supports the work of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee (CTC). The Counter-Terrorism Committee
has the potential to be an indispensable instrument for
communicating the proper message to terrorists and
their supporters and for coordinating our efforts to
protect civilization from this deadly threat.
Israel believes that foremost among the CTC's
priorities must be to ensure that States comply with the
provisions established by the Security Council to
combat terrorism. In so doing, the Committee must not
shy away from its obligation to scrutinize carefully not
only the reports that have been submitted but also the
actions of States, and it must be willing and courageous
enough to draw international attention to such actions.
No State can be allowed to believe that it can continue
to support terrorism with impunity.
I wish to express my congratulations to
Ambassador Greenstock for his conscientious and
capable leadership of the CTC. Israel believes that the
work of the CTC is absolutely essential to the full
implementation of resolution 1373 (2001), and we
support the Committee's work. We further encourage
the Secretariat to take steps to resolve the
administrative issues that have constrained the CTC,
whose smooth functioning is urgently needed.
Terrorism is an issue of particular relevance to
my Government and to the people of Israel. Since the
establishment of our State in 1948, Israel has been a
frequent target of terrorism and continues to be one
today. Last month, more than 130 Israeli civilians were
murdered by terrorists. In the past two weeks, two
public buses were attacked by suicide bombers, killing
14 Israelis.
It is as a result of such attacks that Israel has
developed an extensive network of Government
authorities, a body of domestic legislation, a range of
practical policies and an intense commitment to combat
terrorism in all its aspects. Our full range of counter-
terrorism efforts was detailed in the report we
submitted to the Counter-Terrorism Committee
pursuant to Security Council resolution 1373 (2001),
and I will not recall them here.
The landmark resolutions that were adopted by
the Council following the horrific attacks of 11
September marked a major turning point in our efforts
to eradicate the scourge of terrorism. The Council
rightly understood that terrorists do not operate in a
vacuum and that we will never be successful if we go
after only the terrorists themselves. Rather, terrorists
depend on the support, assistance and safe harbour
granted by States, and it is the States that provide such
assistance to terrorist organizations that must be
targeted, no less than the terrorists themselves. We are
hopeful that the CTC will be instrumental in ensuring
that State support for individuals or organizations
involved in terrorist activities is eliminated and that
States comply with the directives of the Council, as
detailed in resolution 1373 (2001).
Ending State support for terrorism does not only
mean disrupting State financing; it also means ending
the encouragement, incitement and moral and religious
sanctions of those acts. Not only must terrorists be
denied the tools they require to spread fear among
civilians, but they must hear from their own societies
that they will not permit acts of mass murder to be
committed in their name. Religious leaders must not
instruct their followers that murder and suicide are an
expression of God's will. Political leaders must View
the perpetration of terrorist attacks by their citizens as
a cause for grief and introspection, not for celebration.
Resolution 1373 (2001), and resolution 1368
(2001), which preceded it, further recognized that
terrorism constitutes a threat to international peace and
security and that States have an inherent right to
individual and collective self-defence against it.
Terrorists and their supporters must understand not
only that is there nothing to be gained by attacking
civilians, but that there is much to be lost as well.
Terrorists cannot be allowed to operate with impunity,
and they cannot be recipients of political concessions.
While we must combat despair and poverty, we must
make absolutely clear, in both our words and our
deeds, that there is no grievance that justifies terror.
Israel understands the challenges facing certain
States that have little experience in battling terrorism.
In that respect, Israel stands ready to assist those States
in developing a counter-terror capacity. Our experience
with terrorism is long; we have developed many
strategies and techniques and have many experts with a
wealth of experience in this field. Israel is eager to
share its know-how with others and to do its part to
assist the international community in carrying out this
important work.
Israel hopes that its own struggle against
terrorism, although unfortunate, will be of value to
other States and, at the same time, that it will be able to
learn from the knowledge and expertise of others in our
shared challenge of combating terrorism. We must
remember that a terrorist threat anywhere is a threat to
States everywhere.
We firmly believe that through the
implementation of the relevant Security Council
resolutions, by increasing and enhancing international
cooperation and by using the tools at our disposal to
target State sponsors of terror, we can protect ourselves
and succeeding generations from the horrors of
terrorism.
The President (spoke in Russian): I now give the
floor to Sir Jeremy Greenstock to make some
additional comments.
Sir Jeremy Greenstock: We have heard today
about some very good examples of regional and other
collective approaches to the implementation of
resolution 1373 (2001), and I am very grateful to those
Members of the United Nations who have spoken to
that theme and shown their very clear general interest
in making sure that resolution 1373 (2001) and the
work of the Security Council and the Committee make
a difference on the ground in the area of counter-
terrorism.
There were no direct questions to me, but there
are one or two individual points that I would like to
pick up. In his statement this morning, the
representative of Mauritius spoke about the Counter-
Terrorism Committee (CTC) needing to make
judgements about the implementation of resolution
1373 (2001), and I would like to pick up on a couple of
points in that respect. Mr. Gokool asked three
questions, I think. First, is the CTC exceeding the
scope of the resolution itself in the way that it is
approaching implementation? Secondly, will the
answers received from Member States really help the
CT C to judge whether a State is truly compliant? And
thirdly, what action would be taken if a State were not
compliant?
I think if we look at the text of resolution
1373 (2001), we will see that it is extremely broad.
States are asked, basically, to do everything possible, in
cooperation with others, to make sure that terrorist acts
are not committed, to prevent and suppress terrorist
acts, to take action against the perpetrators of such
acts, to cover the whole area of the financing of
terrorist acts in great detail and to refrain from
providing any form of support, active or passive, direct
or indirect. The resolution also expresses the Council's
determination to take all necessary steps to ensure the
full implementation of the resolution.
We in the Committee - and Mauritius is a prime
exponent of this - have agreed that we will implement
that mandate - nothing less and nothing more than
that mandate. So I do not think that the Committee is in
any way exceeding the very broad scope of resolution
1373 (2001) in the way that it is going about its
business. But the answer to the particular question
about whether, from the reports, the CTC will be able
to judge whether a State is compliant is, I think, "Yes,
up to a point; but other things are necessary". And
members of the Committee, like members of the
Council, need also to be aware of their own individual
and collective roles in making sure that all Member
States - or each Member State, as we come to its
case - is truly implementing the resolution, whether
or not it is reported to be doing so. The Committee has
a role there. It is not just for experts or the State itself
to decide - the Committee has a role of assessment.
But the work of the experts in setting broad, objective
criteria is of great importance to the Committee.
What action will be taken if a State is not
compliant? That has not yet happened, and we will
address it if and when it does happen. But the response
from States Members of the United Nations has been
extremely positive, constructive and cooperative so far.
I do not think we have to tie ourselves down by
trying to answer that question until we meet it. If we
do, the Committee will discuss it. We are working by
consensus, so within the Committee we are not going
to solve any contentious or highly political and
sensitive issues. We have already said as a Committee
that we will, if necessary, bring such issues, if they
affect our mandate, back to the Security Council itself.
I think that we are proceeding in the right way.
We are starting with the intention to make sure that
every State has the right legislation in place, then is
implementing that legislation with the right
Government machinery in place and is using, as I said
this morning, those instruments to make sure that
terrorism does not surface on its territory.
So there are questions that we have to have in our
minds, but the resolution itself is our guide in this
respect. From my point of view as Chairman I will
make sure that we stick scrupulously to the terms of the
resolution.
Chile made a suggestion that we should compile
our experiences to facilitate progress towards an
elaboration of a new concept of security in the twenty-
first century. That is much too broad a suggestion to
discuss this afternoon, but I think it is the Committee's
intention to be very frank and open about its
experiences. We have already had three members of the
expert team circulate papers about their view of how it
has gone so far. We are, to some extent, in new
territory as we move forward. I think that the
delegation of Chile is right that we should - as far as
we can, and without straying from our mandate -
share our experience with the international community
and with Member States in terms of - well, who
knows what a new concept of security is - in terms of
the global, the comprehensive, collective approach to
dealing with security problems of this nature. We will
bear that in mind and make sure that our web site and
the other means that we use to distribute our
experience will be full of what I hope Member States
will find is interesting material.
Australia brought up its own very welcome
contributions to regional efforts to understand the
problem and to start dealing with it. In response to that,
I think it is time for me to thank, from my position,
quite a broad range of Member States who have
already begun or are already contemplating putting in
place a number of measures to help those States who
need technical and financial assistance in meeting the
requirements of resolution 1373 (2001).
I mentioned Norway and the Organization of
African Unity this morning, and Australia and New
Zealand in their area. The United States in virtually
every area has been highly active in this regard. The
Group of Eight industrialized countries under Canadian
leadership is very active at the moment. Your own
country, Mr. President, is active in the area of the
Commonwealth of Independent States. The European
Union and the Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe has been active in Europe and
beyond. I would mention also Japan, in its role within
ASEAN + 3, the G-8, the ASEAN Regional Forum
(ARF), and beyond that as a bilateral donor of
importance. I would also mention the regional
organization that has made the most progress so far of
collective, considered reaction against terrorism, and
that is the Organization of American States. All these
are playing increasingly important roles, and I hope
that others will join them. It is already, as you will see
from my list, a very broad collective effort.
Turkey mentioned definitional problems. I am not
going to get back into them. It is not the business of the
Committee to solve definitional problems. As I have
said on other occasions, the CTC has an enormous
amount of work to do and can do that work without
stumbling over definitional problems. We work by
consensus and we will regard an act of terrorism, if it is
necessary to do so, as one which all 15 of us will agree
is an act of terrorism. That covers a huge area that
needs work under resolution 1373 (2001). So we
ourselves will not cut across the responsibility of the
General Assembly to take action in that regard.
I was very pleased that Malawi spoke to us on
behalf of the Southern African Development
Community to say what that subregional group is doing
and that it also, in respect of its own national approach,
expressed very clearly the seven areas where it was
seeking improvements and was unequivocal in wanting
international assistance to help it fulfil its obligations
in those areas. I hope that many Member States will
follow Malawi's example and make specific requests
for assistance, because in our work as the Committee
with international organizations and donor States, we
are beginning to bring together the availability of
supply of assistance, which will be relevant in the case
of Malawi and, I suspect, many others.
I think today's debate has been extremely useful.
I would like again to express my gratitude to all those
delegations that have taken a part. There is a huge
amount of work to do. We in the Committee will do it
with a will, and we look forward to further open
briefings. I will try to hold one before the next week is
out with Member States of the United Nations. I end
with thanks to my colleagues on the Committee and
our experts in the Secretariat for the hard work that
they have done and that is still to come.
The President (spoke in Russian): I thank the
Chairman of the Counter-Terrorism Committee, Sir
Jeremy Greenstock, for his comments and responses to
the questions.
There are no further speakers on my list. The
Security Council has concluded the present stage of its
consideration of the item on its agenda.
The meeting rose at 4:30 p.m.
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