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The President (spoke in French): I should like at
the outset to apologize to members of the Council and
to other speakers for being late. As I said during our
consultations, I had to represent the Security Council at
a meeting of the Economic and Social Council, at
which I had to speak. That meeting was late in getting
started, which made me late for our meeting here; I
apologize for that.
If there is no objection, we will suspend the
meeting at 6 pm. and resume it at 3 pm. on Monday.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Japan. I invite him to take a seat at
the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Haraguchi (Japan): Mr. President, I wish to
thank you for convening this public meeting of the
Security Council. I shall be very brief.
On the anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the
United States, we vividly recalled the sense of
tremendous panic and profound grief caused by such
brutal acts. We could not but have heartfelt sympathy
for the victims and their bereaved families. At the same
time, we all had a sense of our own vulnerability,
knowing that terrorists could strike anywhere, at any
time.
Although much progress has been made in the
fight against terrorism, the struggle must be ongoing.
Only through steadfast vigilance and a comprehensive
approach, with efforts made by each State, as well as
determined cooperation at the regional and
international levels, can we have some assurance that
such acts of terrorism will not be repeated.
First, as part of its own efforts to combat
terrorism, in June Japan deposited its instruments of
acceptance of the Convention for the Suppression of
the Financing of Terrorism. In so doing it became party
to all twelve international anti-terrorism conventions.
Japan hopes that every State will likewise conclude all
of the anti-terrorism conventions. At the same time, we
believe it is also important to further strengthen the
international framework by adopting such conventions
as the Comprehensive Convention on International
Terrorism and the International Convention for the
Suppression of Acts of Nuclear Terrorism. Japan will
continue to work towards this goal.
Secondly, I wish to refer to cooperation at the
regional level. In Tokyo on I and 2 October, Japan co-
hosted with the Republic of Korea and Singapore the
Second ASEAN Regional Forum Workshop on
counter-terrorism measures. The discussions at the
Workshop focused on how we might make more
concrete international cooperative efforts, based on the
recommendation made at the first Workshop in
Bangkok. As a result of the very fruitful discussions
held there, we completed work on the paper entitled
"Best Practices for Counter-Terrorism Measures in
Major International Events". The Workshop thus
offered a valuable opportunity to strengthen regional
efforts to combat terrorism.
Thirdly, cooperative efforts to combat terrorism at
the international level are especially crucial. Japan
therefore remains committed to fully supporting the
work of the Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC). I
would like in particular to point out the important role
of the CTC in facilitating global implementation of
Security Council resolution 1373 (2001). As Japan has
repeatedly stressed, developing countries which are
facing difficulties in implementing that resolution must
be provided with international assistance.
The CTC's directory of assistance is an important
mechanism for the coordination of such assistance. For
its part, Japan is now considering extending assistance
to those countries, using as a reference the information
provided by the Committee's distinguished expert,
Ambassador Curtis A. Ward.
In closing, I would like to express my deepest
gratitude to Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock, Chairman
of the CTC, and to the other members of the bureau for
their excellent work, which they have conducted in a
very transparent manner. I would also like to refer to
the efforts of Ambassador Alfonso Valdivieso,
Chairman of the Committee established under Security
Council resolution 1267 (1999), and his staff. Without
their dedication and extraordinary contributions, the
Security Council, I am afraid, could not have
accomplished its tasks so successfully. I wish to take
this opportunity to express my appreciation to them as
well.
The President (spoke in French): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Yemen. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Alsaidi (Yemen) (spoke in Arabic): Before
taking up the substance of the item, I would first like to
congratulate you, Sir, on your assumption of the
presidency of the Security Council. We are fully
confident that you will conduct the Council's work
wisely. We would also like to express our gratitude to
your predecessor for presiding over the Council last
month.
We would like to commend the activities and
vigorous efforts of the Counter-Terrorism Committee
(CTC) in the implementation of resolution 1373
(2001). The Committee is undertaking concrete
activities that are undoubtedly commensurate with the
gravity of the terrorist crimes that manifested
themselves in the most heinous form of criminal
attacks on the United States of America in September
2001. Those painful events alerted the peoples and
Governments of the world to terrorism's devastating
effects in all its forms and manifestations. Suffice it to
say that international unanimity on combating and
eliminating terrorism has become a top priority in the
system of international cooperation.
However, as far as we know, the dangers posed
by acts of terrorism and the way to eliminate the roots
of terrorism in all its forms and causes requires clarity
of vision, unanimity of views and seriousness of
purpose on our part. It is logical that collective will
cannot be accomplished outside the framework of
international law and legitimacy.
Resolution 1373 (2001) laid the foundation for
legitimate, coordinated international action, but we still
need a legal framework that could govern our State
policies and Government practices, either individually
or collectively.
The delegation of the Republic of Yemen has
spared no effort in striving for success in the current
negotiations on the first draft international convention
that India, to its credit, has formulated. We feel that the
slow progress of these negotiations is evidence of the
desire that the proposed convention reflect the various
points of view and serve as a true expression of the
collective will. In this regard, we would like to affirm
the view of numerous States that the convention must
cover all acts of terrorism, whether they are undertaken
by individuals, groups or States.
We cannot envision, nor can we accept, any
formula that would deny peoples their legitimate right
to resist occupation. We insist on differentiating
between "terrorism" and "legitimate resistance by all
possible means against foreign occupation".
My country was among the first to call attention
to the dangers of terrorism, and we called for concerted
international and regional efforts early on to tackle
these dangers. Arab and Islamic States, including my
own, have ratified the majority of relevant conventions.
However, my country has been a victim of terrorist acts
and their devastating effects, which have adversely
affected the development process and have inflicted
severe damage on our national economy for more than
adecade.
We were given grounds for optimism with regard
to international cooperation through the Committee
established by the Council. We affirmed our
cooperation with it and presented the requisite national
report, which is contained in document S/2002/240.
The cooperation that we have affirmed in practice and
the actions taken by our Government to confront
terrorism and eliminate it within our borders are of
utmost importance. The mass media have spared me
the need to discuss these efforts.
Once again, we reiterate the readiness of the
Republic of Yemen to continue promoting international
cooperation in order to eliminate the scourge of
terrorism and to prevent the risks thereof.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Yemen for his kind words addressed
to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Australia, whom I invite to take a seat
at the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Dauth (Australia): A year after the adoption
of resolution 1373 (2001), the international community,
the Security Council and, of course, in particular the
Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC) under
Ambassador Greenstock's energetic chairmanship, can
take justified pride in what has been accomplished,
particularly in putting in place the legislative
framework to fight terrorism and suppress its
financing. Sir Jeremy Greenstock and his colleagues, I
think, are particularly to be congratulated on really
quite outstanding work. And as Sir Jeremy will know
well, it is unusual for an Australian to heap such praise
on an Englishman.
But our work is beginning, rather than ending.
Terrorism remains a significant and evolving threat to
international peace and security. Our defence against
terrorism is only as strong as its weakest link. Much
remains to be done by States individually, by regional
groups and multilaterally. Universal fulfilment of
obligations under resolution 1373 (2001) must remain
our key priority. National legislation needs to be strong
and comprehensive. Adherence to all 12 anti-terrorism
conventions needs to be global. And we need to ensure
active implementation of legislation, assisted where
necessary by strengthening the institutional capacities
of those States where these are lacking.
Australia is strongly committed to playing an
energetic and creative role in the fight against
terrorism. We take our obligations under resolution
1373 (2001) with the utmost seriousness. Australia is
now a party to 11 of the 12 anti-terrorism conventions.
We acceded to the Convention on the Suppression of
Terrorist Bombings this August, and ratified the
International Convention for the Suppression of the
Financing of Terrorism last month. We are actively
considering our position with regard to the Convention
on the Marking of Plastic Explosives for the Purpose of
Detection.
Within our own region, Australia continues to
encourage greater cooperation to combat terrorism. As
set out in detail in the Pacific Islands Forum statement,
delivered by my colleague, the distinguished
Ambassador of Fiji, the Nasonini Declaration on
Regional Security was adopted by the Pacific Islands
Forum on 17 August 2002, affirming the need for
immediate and sustained regional action in response to
terrorist threats. Australia also sponsored with the
United States, New Zealand and the Forum Secretariat
a counter-terrorism workshop for Pacific Island
countries in March.
Australia and Indonesia announced in September
that they will co-host a regional conference on
combating money-laundering and terrorist financing in
December this year. The conference will augment and
contribute to existing initiatives being undertaken by
the Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC) and other
organizations. Australia and Indonesia believe that the
meeting will enable countries in our region to
strengthen further their individual efforts to prevent
and counter money-laundering and the financing of
terrorism, particularly by identifying capacity-building
needs to meet existing and new obligations.
Australia has also been active in the Association
of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Regional Forum
context. Together with Thailand we chaired an ASEAN
Regional Forum (ARF) workshop on terrorism
prevention in Bangkok in April 2002. We were pleased
to be part of the ASEAN Regional Forum's Declaration
on Terrorist Financing at its Ministerial Meeting on 31
July 2002, as well as in the creation of an intersessional
mechanism on terrorism.
In addition to these regional initiatives, we
consider that bilateral cooperation between
Governments is also critical in combating terrorism,
especially in the exchange of information and
intelligence to identify terrorist threats at the earliest
possible stage. Australia is seeking closer law
enforcement cooperation with partners in our region
and has negotiated Memorandums of Understanding
(MOUs) on counter-terrorism cooperation with
Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand.
Australia remains a very strong supporter of the
CTC. We have provided an expert to the Committee
and have nominated three additional experts to be
called upon by the Committee as required.
As the CTC embarks on its second year, it can be
assured of Australia's ongoing support. We will also
continue to work vigorously within the United Nations
and elsewhere to defeat international terrorism, and we
encourage other States to do likewise.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Australia for his kind words
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Cambodia. I invite him to take a seat
at the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Ouch (Cambodia): I have the honour of
speaking on behalf of the members of the Association
of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), namely Brunei
Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Lao People's
Democratic Republic, Malaysia, Myanmar, the
Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Viet Nam.
May I, first of all, congratulate you,
Mr. President, for assuming the presidency of the
Council this month, and thank the Secretary-General
for his inspiring speech. I wish also to thank the
Chairman of the CTC, His Excellency Sir Jeremy
Greenstock, the Vice-Chairmen, the Committee
members and all experts involved, as well as the
United Nations Secretariat for their dedication and hard
work.
We appreciate the impressive progress made by
the CTC in its first year, whereby over 90 per cent of
Member States have reported to the CTC on the action
taken and planned, and a large percentage of them have
completed their follow-up reports. We are pleased to
inform you that all ASEAN member States have
already submitted their initial reports and, at this stage,
are further progressing towards fulfilling the next
requirements of the CTC. We also note from the CTC
Chairman's statement today that, for most States,
priority will have to be placed in the following two
areas: first, having legislation in place covering all
aspects of resolution 1373 (2001) and a process in hand
to ratify as soon as possible the 12 international
conventions and protocols relating to terrorism, and
secondly, having effective executive machinery for
preventing and suppressing the financing of terrorism.
We appreciate the efforts made by the CTC to
facilitate the provision of necessary technical
assistance to Member States. In this regard, we
welcome the establishment of the web site, which
makes available a comprehensive directory of counter-
terrorism information and sources of technical
assistance. We wish to reiterate that we would welcome
further assistance from the CTC to ASEAN member
States to strengthen their capacity in implementing
resolution 1373 (2001).
Allow me, Mr. President, to give a further update
on ASEAN's ongoing efforts to combat international
terrorism since the last meeting on the subject on 27
June 2002. The ASEAN Foreign Ministers, at their
meeting held from 29-30 July 2002 in Brunei
Darussalam, expressed their determination to enhance
counter-terrorism cooperation, and affirmed the major
role of the United Nations in combating terrorism at
the international level. The Ministers also expressed
their full support for the implementation of Security
Council resolution 1373 (2001).
In addition, there have been a number of
agreements and specific action plans that ASEAN and
the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF) have put in place
in order to tackle threats of terrorism in our region. For
example, at the recent ninth meeting of the ASEAN
Regional Forum, the participants agreed to implement
quickly and decisively measures that the United
Nations has identified as mandatory to combat the
financing of terrorism. The participants also agreed to
enhance their ability to share information, domestically
and internationally, as a vital component in the fight
against terrorism. The participants also welcomed the
establishment of inter-sessional meetings (ISMs) as
avenues to discuss concrete measures of how ARF
members can enhance their cooperation against
terrorism.
In August this year, ASEAN member States and
the United States signed an anti-terrorism declaration
as a framework for increased cooperation to prevent
and combat global terrorism, recognizing the principles
of sovereign equality, territorial integrity and non-
interference in domestic affairs of other States.
Countering terrorism remains high on the agenda
of ASEAN member States, both individually and
collectively. I would like to take this opportunity to
reassure you of ASEAN's continued commitment and
cooperation to prevent, counter and suppress all
terrorist acts in accordance with the Charter of the
United Nations, all relevant United Nations resolutions
and, in particular, Security Council resolution 1373
(2001), as well as the principles of international law.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Cambodia for his kind words
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Liechtenstein. I invite him to take a
seat at the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Wenaweser (Liechtenstein) (spoke in French): We would like to thank you, Mr. President,
for organizing this meeting.
(spoke in English)
Today's meeting offers a good opportunity to take
stock of what has been achieved in our common fight
against international terrorism, as well as to look ahead
to the future. At the outset, we would like to offer some
thoughts on the work of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee (CTC).
We all owe gratitude above all to Ambassador
Jeremy Greenstock, who has guided the work of the
Committee with exemplary circumspection and
transparency. Given the sensitive tasks of the CTC, his
leadership has played a decisive role in ensuring a
prominent place for the Committee. Liechtenstein has
accorded high priority to its cooperation with the CTC,
in particular in the light of the strong focus that
resolution 1373 (2001) places on the issue of the
financing of terrorism. We have submitted to the
Committee in a timely manner a report and a
supplementary report, and we have engaged in a
fruitful dialogue on issues relating to implementation.
We have ratified 10 out of the 12 anti-terrorism
conventions. We look forward to the early ratification
of the remaining two, as soon as we have enacted the
relevant implementing legislation, as is the practice in
our country.
It is encouraging to note that most States have
extended full and constructive cooperation to the CTC
and that, where full cooperation was not forthcoming,
that was due more often to inability than to
unwillingness. The CTC has thus had a tremendous
impact, in particular by also reaching out to other
organizations - especially regional organizations - to
ensure full implementation of resolution 1373 (2001).
Looking to the future, we are of the view that
standards will be necessary to ensure a minimum level
of compliance at the global level. The standards to be
observed were set a year ago, and a set of minimum
requirements will be needed to ensure the effectiveness
of those standards and, thus, of the work of the
Committee. We agree with the philosophy of the CTC,
that the implementation of resolution 1373 (2001) is a
process and that no State is perfect when it comes to
implementation. Enhancing compliance will therefore
be of crucial importance in the second phase of the
Committee's work. My Government has offered our
expertise to the Counter-Terrorism Committee in the
past, and our offer still stands.
The rule of law has become a predominant theme
in the overall fight against terrorism. We remain
convinced that human rights must never fall victim to
the fight against terrorism. Our common fight against
terrorism must notjeopardize the existing human rights
standards, which are among the greatest achievements
of the Organization. If we were to curtail human rights
in the name of the fight against terrorism, we would be
making a fatal concession by sacrificing some of our
most fundamental values, the very values that terrorists
set out to destroy. While the danger posed by terrorism
is certainly unprecedented in its magnitude, existing
standards nevertheless provide a balance between the
enjoyment of human rights and security concerns in
that they allow for the limitation of some human rights
under clearly defined circumstances. At the same time,
there is also a set of irrevocable human rights. Those
solid human rights achievements must not be touched.
It is not only States that are called upon to uphold
the rule of law at the national level. Indeed, the United
Nations, and the Security Council in particular, are
challenged to live up to their obligation to uphold the
rule of law at the international level. Individuals
suspected of being involved in terrorist activities must
be guaranteed the minimum standards of protection
accorded to them by international law. The Security
Council, more than any other body, is called upon to
respect those rights. In particular, it must ensure that
there is never a conflict for States between their
obligation to fully observe human rights standards and
their obligation to implement decisions of the Security
Council.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Liechtenstein for his kind words
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of the Republic of Korea. I invite him to
take a seat at the Council table and to make his
statement.
Mr. Sun (Republic of Korea): At the outset, I
would like to congratulate you, Sir, on your assumption
of the presidency of the Security Council for the month
of October. Let me also thank you for convening this
public meeting on the work of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee (CTC). We believe that today's meeting
offers a valuable opportunity for the wider membership
of the United Nations to share its views on a subject of
the utmost importance.
More than a year has passed since the horrendous
acts of terrorism of September 2001. Since then, with
the CTC standing at the forefront of our global efforts
in the fight against terrorism, the resolve of the
international community has been further strengthened
and its readiness significantly enhanced. In that regard,
I would like to express my delegation's appreciation to
Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock for his outstanding
leadership in steering the work of the CTC. Our
appreciation goes also to his team at the United
Kingdom Mission, as well as to the independent
experts and the Secretariat staff, for their dedicated
efforts.
We have recorded important progress following
the Security Council's adoption of resolution 1373
(2001), which laid down a comprehensive road map to
combat terrorism. The concerted action taken by the
international community has led to the dismantling of
many terrorist networks and the disrupting of their
channels of financial support. In that common
endeavour, it is noteworthy that global participation
and cooperation have been consistent and pervasive, as
reflected by the fact that more than 170 States have
submitted their reports to the CTC on steps taken under
resolution 1373 (2001).
My delegation notes that the CTC is now
focusing its work on reviewing the second reports
submitted by Member States, identifying gaps in
domestic legislation and Government machinery in the
field of counter-terrorism and proposing future
measures to be taken by national Governments. We
also note the expanding focus of the CTC regarding its
framework of cooperation with other international,
regional and subregional organizations and its role in
facilitating assistance.
My Government in June 2002 submitted its
second report to the CTC and that report is now under
review by the Committee. The Republic of Korea
welcomes the CTC's work programme for the coming
months and stands ready to lend its full support.
On the national level, the Republic of Korea has
been according paramount importance to the issue of
counter-terrorism. Our specific measures to implement
resolution 1373 (2001) include the establishment and
active operation of the Korea Financial Intelligence
Unit (KFIU) to prevent and combat terrorist financing.
As far as the 12 international conventions and
protocols relating to terrorism are concerned, the
Republic of Korea is currently a party to eight of those
legal instruments. Two other instruments, on unlawful
acts against the safety of maritime navigation and of
fixed platforms located on the continental shelf, have
now been placed before the National Assembly for its
consideration, with a view to our accession to them by
the end of this year.
Furthermore, we are expediting the process of
early ratification of the two remaining conventions, on
the suppression of the financing of terrorism and on the
suppression of terrorist bombings, which we have
already signed.
The Republic of Korea has also been continuing
its active participation in regional forums related to
counter-terrorism. Within the context of such regional
endeavours, my Government, along with the
Governments of Japan and Singapore, co-hosted the
Second Workshop on Counter-Terrorism of the
Association of South-East Asian Nations Regional
Forum, which was held in Tokyo on 1 and 2 October
2002. On that occasion, we presented, among other
things, the successful anti-terrorism measures taken
during the 2002 FIFA World Cup tournament held in
Korea and Japan, which could contribute to the
establishment of best practices in managing major
international events.
In the global efforts to fight terrorism, my
Government attaches great importance to following up
on the initiatives of the Financial Action Task Force in
the field of combating terrorist financing, and hopes to
become a member of that body upon the expansion of
its membership.
As the CTC enters its second year of work, we
believe that it would be useful to find ways to
disseminate the achievements of the CTC in the fight
against international terrorism to a wider arena. The
CTC's experience and expertise, based on its in-depth
reviews of national reports covering nearly all corners
of the world, could offer the best source of wisdom
with regard to our common endeavour to eliminate the
threat of terrorism. Given the still incomplete
international legal regime in this field, the strengths,
setbacks and patterns of national counter-terrorism
measures identified by the CTC would be of particular
benefit to the relevant deliberations in the General
Assembly.
Because the global menace of terrorism has not
been entirely eliminated, as reflected in the recently
published report of a United Nations monitoring group,
my delegation believes that the international
community should remain fully vigilant about such
threats under the guiding role of the CTC. In that
regard, I would like to reiterate the unswerving
commitment of the Republic of Korea to fighting the
scourge of terrorism in an effective, comprehensive and
sustained manner. We also reaffirm our full support for
the mandate of the CTC to enable all States to expand
their capacity and readiness to counter terrorism on all
fronts.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of the Republic of Korea for his kind
words addressed to me.
The next speaker is the representative of Tunisia.
I invite him to take a seat at the Council table and to
make his statement.
Mr. Mejdoub (Tunisia) (spoke in French): Please
allow me at the outset, Sir, to congratulate you and all
the other members of your delegation on your
accession to the presidency of the Council. Let me
assure you as well of our complete cooperation in the
fulfilment of your duties. My congratulations go also to
your predecessor, Ambassador Tafrov, for his excellent
leadership of the work of the Council last month.
Please allow me also to thank you, Mr. President,
for organizing this meeting, which marks one year
since the first meeting of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee (CTC). Today's meeting gives us the
opportunity to report to members of the Council about
the measures that Tunisia has taken to combat the
grave threat posed by international terrorism. But first,
I would like to join those who spoke before me to pay
tribute to the sustained efforts made in this regard by
Sir Jeremy Greenstock, the Vice-Chairmen of the
Committee, the other representatives of CTC members,
the experts and the Secretariat staff.
Tunisia, which was among the first nations to
warn against the dangers of terrorism, is firmly
committed to continue its work to strengthen
cooperation aimed at effectively countering and finally
eliminating this scourge. Therefore, beyond its multi-
dimensional, comprehensive national counter-terrorism
policy, Tunisia has signed bilateral agreements with 30
countries with a view to strengthening its cooperation
with those countries in the legal and security areas.
Furthermore, Tunisia has adhered to regional
conventions adopted by the League of Arab States, the
Organization of African Unity and the Organization of
the Islamic Conference, as well as to the 12
international conventions on specific terrorism issues.
Tunisia has also made many initiatives. Among
these was the call by President Ben Ali to hold an
international conference that would lay down common
parameters for a code of conduct for all States. It
would help initiate a responsible dialogue that would
avoid double standards in regional conflicts and
mitigate the feelings of deprivation and oppression
experienced by many peoples.
As a member of the Council at the time, Tunisia
actively participated in the formulation of resolution
1373 (2001). In compliance with this resolution, we
have submitted to the Counter-Terrorism Committee
two reports dealing with the measures taken in this
regard, and we remain ready to respond to any new
request from the Committee. Furthermore, my country
has given effective support to the CTC, in particular by
designating an expert in counter-terrorism law.
During its term in the Council, Tunisia stressed
the need to guarantee maximum transparency in the
Committee's work. We also urged that technical
assistance be provided to the States to enable them to
fulfil resolution 1373 (2001) and called for equitable
geographic representation in the selection of experts
working with the CTC. One year later, we note with
great satisfaction that the Committee is working
resolutely in that direction.
In that regard, we are grateful to Sir Jeremy for
organizing periodic briefings with non-member States.
We are also pleased by the Committee's increased
cooperation with international, regional and
subregional organizations and institutions, as well as
by its continued efforts to obtain financing and
specialized technical support.
(spoke in English)
Before concluding, I wish to underline two points
of major importance to my delegation. First, the
comprehensive strategy to prevent and fight terrorism
should not jeopardize the inalienable right of peoples to
self-determination or the legitimate struggle of peoples
against foreign and colonial occupation. It is essential
not to confuse those rights, recognized and protected
by the Charter and by international law, with acts of
terrorism targeting civilian populations. A clear
definition agreed upon by all States would definitely
help avoid that confusion.
Secondly, the fight against terrorism requires that
we attack its root causes. Thus, it is necessary to tackle
all manifestations of poverty and underdevelopment
wherever they occur, work resolutely to eliminate
causes of frustration and deprivation and resolve major
pending issues so that they cannot be exploited by
terrorist groups wishing to harm international stability.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Tunisia for his kind words addressed
to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Denmark. I invite her to take a seat at
the Council table and to make her statement.
Ms. Lnj (Denmark): I have the honour to speak
on behalf of the European Union (EU). The Central and
Eastern Europe countries associated with the European
Union - Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia,
Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia
and Slovenia - and the associated countries Cyprus,
Malta and Turkey, as well as the European Free Trade
Association country member of the European
Economic Area Iceland, align themselves with this
statement.
Allow me to begin by congratulating you, Sir, and
your delegation upon assuming the presidency of the
Security Council for the month of October. The
European Union pledges to cooperate fully with you in
your important tasks.
The European Union welcomes the opportunity to
once again review the work of the Security Council's
Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC). At the outset,
the European Union would like to express its strong
support for the work of the Committee and for its
efforts to make its activities as transparent as possible.
Likewise, we commend the great effort made by the
members of the Committee, its experts and the
Secretariat to process and analyse the wealth of
information provided in the reports.
The fight against terrorism remains an absolute
priority for the European Union. In that regard, we
acknowledge the central role of the United Nations,
through the Security Council and the CTC, and we
remain fully committed to the closest and fullest
cooperation with the Committee, in the spirit of
paragraph 6 of resolution 1373 (2001).
As the Chairman of the CTC outlined this
morning, the second phase of the review of national
and other reports is well under way. We urge those who
have not yet submitted an initial or a subsequent report
to do so.
However, the European Union reiterates that
compliance with resolution 1373 (2001) is not met
through the mere presentation of reports. We have to
move beyond words if we are to be successful in our
attempts to eliminate international terrorism. It is,
therefore, essential to fully implement the resolution by
adopting and implementing the necessary legal and
practical measures at the national and regional levels.
As we have heard again and again, there must be
no weak links in the chain. The European Union fully
agrees with this and, thus, stands ready to assist third
countries. There is scope for further assistance, and we
encourage those in need of assistance to provide
specific requests in that regard. An overview of EU
assistance programmes appears on the CTC's web site.
Furthermore, the European Union is stepping up
its efforts to assist third countries in the
implementation of resolution 1373 (2001). We are
identifying a number of countries with which to
cooperate in launching pilot projects. That assistance
will be based on an assessment of needs, on which we
will be cooperating very closely with the CTC. The
European Union reiterates the importance of effective
and adequate coordination among donors in order to
avoid duplication of work.
Thus, the European Union intends to make
progress to incorporate the fight against terrorism into
all aspects of the Union's external policy, in particular
by strengthening the role of the Common Foreign and
Security Policy in that area: for instance, to include
anti-terrorism clauses in EU agreements with third
countries, to focus more sharply on a political dialogue
with third countries and to actively promote
coordination with relevant international and regional
organizations.
The European Union supports the report of the
Policy Working Group on the United Nations and
Terrorism. We underscore that the United Nations
system as a whole should continue to ensure its
readiness to assist in the implementation of measures to
counter terrorism, in particular the efforts of the CTC.
The European Union continues to urge the speedy
signing and ratification of all 12 international terrorism
conventions, especially the one related to the financing
of terrorism. In that context, we take note of the
proposals of the Secretary-General to strengthen the
Terrorism Prevention Branch of the United Nations
Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention. The EU
also remains committed to finalizing the work on a
draft comprehensive convention against terrorism.
The European Union emphasizes that our efforts
to establish effective instruments to fight terrorism
must be conducted with respect for the rule of law,
human rights and fundamental freedoms. We must not
fall into the trap of responding to terrorist attacks by
undermining our own democratic values. We, therefore,
commend the contact the CTC has developed with the
Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for
Human Rights.
In conclusion, the fight against terrorism requires
a comprehensive approach and effective instruments
for legal collaboration. That fight can be won only
through strong and sustained international cooperation.
The United Nations, most notably the CTC, will remain
crucial in that regard, and the EU urges all Member
States and international organizations to show their
fullest commitment to this important cause.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Denmark for her kind words
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Pakistan. I invite him to take a seat at
the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Akram (Pakistan): We are delighted to see
you, Sir, assume the presidency of the Security Council
at this critical moment for international peace and
security and, indeed, a critical moment for the United
Nations. I would also like to take this opportunity to
congratulate Ambassador Stefan Tafrov, your
predecessor, for his skilful and outstanding leadership
of the Council last month. On this occasion, the
Pakistan delegation extends its high appreciation to Sir
Jeremy Greenstock, the Chairman of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee (CTC), to the Vice-Chairmen of
the CTC and to its experts for their endeavours over the
past year. We wish them continued success in the
future.
The debate on the issue of threats to international
peace and security caused by terrorist attacks is
important and timely. The catastrophic terrorist attacks
of 11 September last year mobilized the international
community to launch a comprehensive campaign
against terrorism.
The Security Council has made a significant
contribution to that campaign, including through the
series of resolutions it has adopted - resolution 1368
(2001) calling on all States to work together to bring to
justice "the perpetrators, organizers and sponsors" of
the atrocities of 11 September; resolution 1373 (2001),
adopted almost a year ago this week, which aimed at
cutting off the supply lines - financial, military and
logistic - of the terrorists; resolution 1377 (2001)
calling on all States to eliminate the scourge of
terrorism; and 1390 (2002) targeting Al Qaeda and the
Taliban.
On the ground, an international coalition was
quickly constituted and has waged a successful war
against the Al Qaeda terrorist organization in
Afghanistan and elsewhere. Almost a year later, Al
Qaeda has been virtually destroyed and the
Government which harboured and protected those
terrorists ejected from power. The Bonn process,
supplemented by the Tokyo Conference, has opened the
way for the installation of a representative Government
in Kabul, led by President Hamid Karzai, and for the
rehabilitation and reconstruction of Afghanistan.
However, the war against terrorism in
Afghanistan is not yet fully won. Coalition forces are
still pursuing the remnants of Al Qaeda in the
mountains and valleys of Afghanistan. That final
mopping-up operation is likely to be painstaking and
time-consuming. In the meantime, the international
community, which has organized itself admirably in
Afghanistan under the guidance of the Secretary-
General and his Special Representative, Mr. Lakhdar
Brahimi, cannot afford to become complacent. Security
continues to be under threat in Afghanistan from a
variety of sources, including tribal and regional
rivalries and the quest for power and influence.
Pakistan continues to believe and to urge that the
international community should deploy additional
forces, especially in the regional centres, as a means of
consolidating peace and security in Afghanistan and
ensuring that the writ of President Karzai prevails over
the entire country. Failure to take timely action to
consolidate security in Afghanistan could prove to be
very costly in the future.
It is equally important to commence the process
of rehabilitation and reconstruction simultaneously
throughout Afghanistan under the auspices of the
Karzai Government. Apart from generating an
economic revival and creating jobs, it will also help to
extend the influence and authority of the Government
in Kabul to all Afghanistan.
Even as the international community acts to
consolidate peace and security and to revive economic
activity in Afghanistan, the need to support Pakistan in
its multiple endeavours to combat terrorism should not
be overlooked. As President Musharraf stated in the
2nd meeting of the fifty-seventh session of the General
Assembly, on 12 September:
"Pakistan is in the forefront of the fight
against terrorism. We have made major sacrifices
in this war. We have interdicted infiltration by Al
Qaeda into Pakistan. We have arrested and
deported foreign suspects found on our territory.
We are determined not to allow anyone to use our
soil for terrorist acts inside or outside Pakistan."
Pakistan continues to conduct extensive
operations on its western border involving a sizeable
number of its military and paramilitary forces to
interdict Al Qaeda infiltration, even as coalition forces
undertake simultaneous operations on the other side of
the Durand Line.
With equal vigour, Pakistan Government agencies
are engaged in an extensive operation to hunt down Al
Qaeda and other terrorists who may have infiltrated
into Pakistan. Some have been discovered in the border
regions, while others were found hiding in our cities.
This intelligence and police operation has proved to be
highly successful, resulting in the capture of some of
the top leadership of Al Qaeda. We are confident of
further and ultimate success in capturing any remaining
Al Qaeda members on the run.
It was expected that the terrorists, when cornered,
would seek retaliation and revenge. In the war against
terrorism, Pakistan has become not only the frontline
fighter but also the frontline target of the terrorists. To
draw publicity to their acts of vengeance and violence,
the terrorists have focused on attacking foreigners, as
well as members of Pakistan's Christian community.
We condemn and deplore those attacks and the
resulting loss of innocent lives. Yet the fact that the
terrorists are attacking the innocent and "soft targets"
is an indication that their capacities have been severely
eroded. Pakistan is determined to pursue the operation
until complete success is achieved in eliminating and
eradicating those terrorists.
It is unfortunate that in certain recent incidents of
terrorism in Pakistan, we have found some grounds to
suspect that there are external agencies other than Al
Qaeda who may have been responsible for those
terrorist acts.
Just this morning there was a condemnable attack
by gunmen against the girls' Islamic school in Lahore
and another attack on a Christian hospital in Bannu, in
north-western Pakistan. A young girl was injured in
Lahore. Fortunately, there were no injuries in the
Bannu attack.
The Government of Pakistan is also seeking to
clear the pond in which extremists and terrorists could
survive. Through the detailed reports submitted by
Pakistan to the CTC under resolution 1373 (2001), the
Security Council is aware of the extensive legislative,
administrative and operational measures which the
Pakistani Government has adopted to arrest and
eradicate all domestic manifestations of terrorism and
extremism in Pakistan.
Our campaign against terrorism and extremism is
part of the endeavour of President Musharraf's
Government to realize the vision of our founder,
Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, for the
emergence of Pakistan as a modern, tolerant,
democratic Islamic State. President Musharraf's
Government has launched the country towards this
vision, introducing comprehensive socio-economic
reforms and restructuring our polity, inter alia, through
grassroots democracy, the empowerment of women and
an ambitious programme of human resources
development, including education.
As we move to the stage of completing the
process of democratic revival with the holding of
national and provincial assembly elections in Pakistan
on 10 October - six days away - it is our hope and
expectation that our friends in the international
community will continue their support for Pakistan's
comprehensive endeavour for rapid socio-economic
development and to realize thereby our people's
aspirations for peace, security and prosperity.
It must be in the knowledge of the Council that
Pakistan's ability to support the international struggle
against terrorism - and our aspirations for peace and
prosperity - could be significantly eroded by the
military threat against Pakistan from our eastern
neighbour. Misusing the rationale of the anti-terrorist
campaign, this neighbour has deployed one million
troops on Pakistan's border and along the Line of
Control in Kashmir. It has repeatedly threatened to use
force against Pakistan. It refuses mutual de-escalation
of forces; it refuses bilateral dialogue; it refuses third-
party mediation; it refuses the Secretary-General's
good offices; and it refuses to end its military
repression of the people of Jammu and Kashmir,
justifying this stance by denigrating this noble freedom
struggle as cross-border terrorism.
The Kashmiris are struggling to exercise their
right to self-determination, as promised to them by the
Security Council in a number of resolutions. Those
Security Council resolutions must also be faithfully
implemented.
If the war against terrorism is to be brought to a
successful conclusion, it is vital to ensure that it is in
no way misappropriated by interested parties who want
to suppress the fundamental right of peoples under
colonial and alien occupation or domination to struggle
for their right to self-determination and freedom. As
the President of Pakistan also stated in the General
Assembly,
"acts of terrorism by individuals or groups cannot
be the justification to outlaw the just struggle of a
people for self-determination and liberation from
colonial or foreign occupation, nor can it justify
State terrorism."
There is another, less recognized threat to the
successful conclusion of the anti-terrorist campaign -
the danger of unwittingly provoking a clash of
religions and cultures. Obviously, some quarters have a
vested interest in utilizing the war against terrorism as
a vehicle to spread hatred against Islam and Muslims.
Some of these people live close to us. But let us
remember: terrorism has a history; but it has no
religion or creed. In his address to the General
Assembly, President Musharraf also said:
"In a globalized world, religious and cultural
diversity should be a vehicle for complementary
creativity and dynamism, not the rationale for a
new ideological or political confrontation."
The veil of mutual suspicion and ignorance
between the West and Islam, which has become so
visible over the last year, can be lifted only through an
open, honest and sustained dialogue. The President of
Pakistan has proposed that, as a first step, the General
Assembly should adopt a declaration on religious and
cultural understanding, harmony and cooperation.
The attempt to equate Islam and Muslims with
terrorism is exacerbating discrimination against
Muslim minorities and peoples in various parts of the
world. Unless this trend is reversed, it could result in
another age-old manifestation of terrorism: organized
pogroms against minorities and suppressed peoples,
such as the one the world witnessed against the
Muslims of Gujarat earlier this year.
Even as we take practical and legal measures to
combat the phenomenon of terrorism, the international
community must initiate comprehensive and effective
steps to address the root causes of terrorism. Terrorism
often arises from political and economic injustice; from
foreign occupation and the repression of peoples; from
festering disputes and conflict among nations; and from
economic deprivation and poverty, which provides a
fertile field in which fanaticism flourishes. The efforts
of the Security Council to eliminate terrorist threats
must therefore embrace the endeavour to address these
root causes of terrorism, in particular through the
promotion of just and peaceful solutions to conflicts
and disputes and of prosperity for all peoples.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Pakistan for his kind words addressed
to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Georgia. I invite him to take a seat at
the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Adamia (Georgia): Today's meeting has a
special significance for my country as this is the first
time that we have spoken in the Security Council since
we joined the global anti-terrorist coalition. In this
connection, I would like to commend the members of
the Security Council for mobilizing the coordinated
efforts of the international community against
international terrorism.
I would like to express our support for and
appreciation of the central role played by the Counter-
Terrorism Committee (CTC) and its Chairman,
Ambassador Sir Jeremy Greenstock. We fully share the
aims and objectives outlined by the Chairman for the
next working period.
The work of the Committee inspired a process of
review of domestic legislation in my country to bring it
into line with our obligations both under the
conventions against terrorism and under resolution
1373 (2001). The Government of Georgia recently
approved a draft law on amendments to the criminal
code of Georgia, and submitted it to the parliament for
adoption. Domestic legislation on charitable and
humanitarian organizations is also being reviewed to
prevent money-laundering and any subsequent
financing of terrorist acts.
We are particularly pleased that the CTC remains
focused on the timely provision of assistance to States
and on capacity-building in order to address the threat
of terrorism within the framework of resolution 1373
(2001). In this respect, we note the importance of
dispatching an assessment mission to Georgia.
The objective of resolution 1373 (2001) is to set
out a legal and political framework for the undertaking
by States of cooperative efforts in the process of
fighting international terrorism. It is both a means- and
goal-oriented resolution, and any attempt to expand its
scope to manipulate it to one's own liking would
undermine the very cornerstone of current international
law and the Charter-based international system.
Let me be candid. What is the real value of our
deliberations and the commitments made in this
Chamber given that Russia, a permanent member of the
Security Council, itself subjects my country to daily
terror, intimidation and the threat of aggression. The
flames of anti-Georgia hysteria that Russia's mass
media continuously fan are fuelled by accusations that
Georgia is not only not fighting the terrorists but,
worse still, condoning them.
I beg your pardon, Mr. President, but I have to
say that sometimes it appears that whole sections of the
United Nations Charter that set out the functions of the
Security Council are completely missing from the
memory of the Russian decision makers.
In order to provide an objective picture of events
and to dispel any doubts, I will resort only to the facts.
In line with our obligations to suppress and prevent
terrorist acts under anti-terrorist conventions and
resolution 1373 (2001), we launched and completed an
anti-terrorist and anti-criminal operation in Georgia's
Pankisi Gorge. The operation, which has been praised
by the State Department of the United States and by the
Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe,
would never have been possible without the decisive
assistance of the United States. We have already re-
established full control over the territory, and we are
able to report that there are no Chechen fighters,
terrorist suspects or mercenaries in the gorge. Forty-
one persons have been detained, and 2 boeviks were
killed during the operation.
We fulfilled our commitment. As the President of
Georgia stated, the Pankisi problem no longer exists.
We have already invited international monitors to
verify the situation and we are ready to receive
representatives and groups from any interested State,
international body or organization to ensure maximum
transparency with regard to the situation there. The
first step in that direction has been taken: members of
the North Atlantic Treaty Organization Parliamentary
Assembly recently visited the Pankisi Gorge and
verified that it has been cleared of armed personnel and
that the Government has full control of the region.
We are still being accused of being in breach of
our obligations. Allegedly, we released Chechen
boeviks who were later engaged by Russian forces 150
kilometres from the Pankisi Gorge, deep within
Russian territory. The blame placed on Georgia for
those events is ill-founded. As everyone is aware, the
Georgians alone are unable to guard the Georgian-
Russian border. Thus, it would have been reasonable to
ask Russia's border guards and military personnel how
it happened that the armed group moved unhindered
through Russian territory towards Chechnya and were
intercepted only at the last moment. Georgia's Pankisi
Gorge is a strip of territory populated by peaceful
civilians. We would never allow the use of excessive
force in Pankisi, as happened in Chechnya; that would
mean the spillover of the conflict into Georgia. That is
why it took time. But I must reiterate that there are no
armed personnel in the Gorge.
Let me be clear: Chechens are Russian citizens,
and the conflict in Chechnya is Russia's internal affair.
Indeed, President Shevardnadze was the first to support
Russia's territorial integrity. In 1999, the deliberate
push of Chechen fighters into Georgia was regarded as
a Russian military success. Now that those Russian
citizens have returned to their country, we are blamed
for violating international norms. Where is the logic in
that? What has changed since then? Should terrorism
be defined differently on every occasion according to
Russia's liking? Does that define Russia's modus
operandi as a member of the global anti-terrorism
coalition?
I must cite one more example of such
extraordinary logic: the case of one of the most
notorious international terrorists, Igor Giorgadze -
wanted for several assassination attempts against
President Shevardnadze - which could serve as a
litmus test with regard to Russia's commitments. Igor
Giorgadze has been taking refuge in Russia for seven
years. Numerous requests by both Georgia and Interpol
for his extradition have been turned down on the
grounds that the Russian law enforcement agencies
were unable to establish his whereabouts. The appeal
made in 1999 by the United States Congress to the
Russian Federation authorities to extradite the terrorist
to Georgia was also in vain. Meanwhile, Giorgadze is
frequently seen in the company of members of the
Russian intelligence and security services and of high-
ranking military officers, and he has even become a
semi-permanent feature in the Russian media.
Giorgadze has been allowed to brazenly use Russian
television and print media outlets to actually call for
the overthrow of the democratically elected Georgian
Government. This repeated use of the Russian media
by a wanted international criminal and terrorist is
unprecedented in the post-Soviet world. Only two days
ago, he was again featured on Russian State television.
To what extent can one tolerate double standards on the
part of a country that is a permanent member of the
Security Council and whose rich history and culture
deserve only admiration?
Here, I must draw the Council's attention to the
most painful issue of Georgian-Russian relations: the
conflict in Abkhazia, Georgia. It is well known that
Abkhazia achieved de facto independence only by
virtue of the massive involvement and assistance
provided by the Russian military and special services.
What is the situation here? All the members of the
group of Friends of the Secretary-General on Georgia
are aware that the paper on the distribution of
constitutional competencies between Tbilisi and
Sokhumi - which the group studied for the past two
years and only recently agreed upon - has still not
been presented to the parties. In fact, the paper has
again been delayed and will not be presented at
tomorrow's meeting of the Group with the
representatives of the Abkhaz separatist leadership. We
cannot fail to express our disappointment in that
regard.
With regard to the Kodory valley part of
Abkhazia, we can state with full authority that Georgia
has shouldered all its responsibilities. Moreover, we
call for full transparency in the valley, and we invite all
interested parties - both international organizations
and others - to visit the valley for the purpose of
verification. Here, I must emphasize that the most
dangerous developments are taking place right now in
the valley area, where, according to our confirmed
reports, the Abkhaz military, together with Russian
mercenaries, are concentrating in preparation for an
attack against the Georgian-controlled territory. The
recent failure of the United Nations Observer Mission
in Georgia to conduct patrols in the valley, which was
the result of obstruction by the Russian peacekeeping
forces and by the Abkhaz side, only confirms our worst
fear that any minute now - and I do not exaggerate -
those forces may unleash a provocation that could lead
to the resumption of hostilities.
I wish I could stop here. But I must voice our
concern at the fact that almost 80 per cent of the
population of separatist Abkhazia has been granted
Russian Federation citizenship. That development has
finally brought about a unique situation in which
Russia has multiple capacities: facilitator of the peace
process and sole peacekeeper in the separatist region,
the overwhelming majority of whose population
consists of Russian citizens. On whose side is the
conflict, then? Surely, it is no longer on the Abkhaz
side.
The Abkhazia and Tskhinvali - the former South
Ossetia - regions of Georgia have degenerated into
areas of lawlessness where grave violations of human
rights and acts of terrorism have become the normal
pattern of life. The Abkhaz separatist regime has
tarnished itself by carrying out the ethnic cleansing of
the predominantly Georgian population, expelling
300,000 people from their places of permanent
residence. The data that we possess clearly indicate
that the situation in those regions has created a
breeding ground for terrorism, drug trafficking and
illicit arms smuggling.
Yet we cherish the hope that goodwill will
prevail. We are proud of the heritage of friendly
relations between the Georgian and the Russian
peoples. We still strive towards a friendship with the
great Russian people that is rooted in equality and
mutual respect, not in intimidation and continuous
deceit. Therefore, we appeal to the Russian authorities
to desist from carrying out terrorism against a friendly
neighbouring State, against its people and against its
President. Any military action against my country will
have catastrophic repercussions on the entire Caucasus
region. We appeal to the Security Council not to allow
that to happen.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Georgia for the kind words he
addressed to me.
The next speaker on my list is the representative
of Yugoslavia. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Sahovic' (Yugoslavia): At the outset, allow
me, Sir, to congratulate you on your assumption of the
presidency of the Security Council and to express our
appreciation to you for convening this meeting, which
provides an opportunity for a broader debate on an
issue that is of concern to us all.
The Secretary-General and the Chairman of the
Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC), at the beginning
of today's debate, eloquently expressed their concern
and indicated the course to be followed in our future
counter-terrorism efforts. We thank them for that.
The Security Council gave substance to its
resolve to combat international terrorism by adopting a
landmark resolution - resolution 1373 (2001) -
which has become the basis for the broadest possible
international coalition against terrorism.
The Counter-Terrorism Committee - unique in
the breadth of its mandate - has become the focal
point for counter-terrorism action within the United
Nations. It provides an effective mechanism for
implementing the resolution and for enabling
continuity of international action in this field,
particularly on the basis of inter-State cooperation.
Yugoslavia fully supports the work of the CTC. We
would also like to express our appreciation for the
outstanding, energetic and committed leadership of
CTC Chairman Sir Jeremy Greenstock.
The achievements of the Security Council in
countering this global threat have once again proved
that the United Nations is uniquely positioned to serve
as the legitimate forum for an international counter-
terrorism coalition, as it can ensure that the greatest
possible number of States are able and willing to take
the necessary steps to oppose terrorism.
The fight against terrorism cannot be won solely
by focusing on mechanisms aimed at eliminating
individual terrorist groups, since terrorism is not an
isolated phenomenon. Instead, it should be viewed in
the context from which terrorist activities arise. In its
counter-terrorism efforts, the United Nations must
focus on the broader picture. As the Policy Working
Group on the United Nations and Terrorism stated in its
recent report, it is necessary for the United Nations to
reassert the main purposes of the United Nations
Charter, the core of which has been threatened by
terrorism. We have identified in this report certain
important points and recommendations that warrant the
attention of the United Nations membership as a basis
for further enhancing United Nations engagement in
the field of counter-terrorism.
Resolution 1373 (2001) notes "the increase, in
various regions of the world, of acts of terrorism
motivated by intolerance or extremism". It also calls
for the prevention of movement of terrorists or terrorist
groups by effective border controls.
Yugoslavia has been faced with both extremism
and illegal border crossings in the province of Kosovo
and Metohija. We welcome the enhanced efforts by the
United Nations Interim Administration Mission in
Kosovo (UNMIK) to address these problems, and we
expect the Mission to continue to improve its measures
in these areas. My Government reiterates its readiness,
in line with resolution 1244 (1999), to enhance
cooperation with UNMIK and KFOR with a view to
preventing and suppressing acts of terrorism.
Regrettably, organized crime, whose close
connection with terrorism has been firmly established,
figures high on the list of acute problems affecting
South-eastern Europe.
Yugoslavia is fully committed to adequately
addressing this issue. At the national level, Yugoslavia
has recently adopted laws on combating organized
crime at both the federal level and at the level of the
Republic of Serbia, and a new law on the prevention of
money laundering took effect in Yugoslavia in July this
year. At the international level, we have ratified the
United Nations Convention against Transnational
Organized Crime and its supplementary protocols, as
well as the Council of Europe Convention on
Laundering, Search, Seizure and Confiscation of the
Proceeds from Crime. At the regional level, we are
fully committed to dealing with this issue within the
South-eastern European Cooperation Process, which
Yugoslavia is currently chairing, as well as within the
framework of the Stability Pact for South-eastern
Europe.
My country is also bound by most international
anti-terrorist treaties. We have ratified the International
Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of
Terrorism and signed the Convention on the Marking
of Plastic Explosives for the Purpose of Detection as
well as the International Convention for the
Suppression of Terrorist Bombings. Both are now
before Parliament pending ratification. Bilaterally,
Yugoslavia has signed treaties with Bosnia and
Herzegovina, Croatia and Slovenia related to the
struggle against terrorism, organized crime and illegal
migration. Yugoslavia is regionally fully engaged in
raising awareness of the danger of terrorism.
We are, of course, also engaged in a dialogue
with the CTC. My Government has submitted both the
initial and supplementary reports and would like to
take advantage of this opportunity to reiterate its
readiness for future cooperation. In order to make its
full contribution to the fight against terrorism, my
country needs, and would greatly appreciate,
international assistance.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Yugoslavia for the kind words he
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Costa Rica. I invite him to take a seat
at the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Stagno (Costa Rica) (spoke in Spanish): I am
pleased to address the Security Council on behalf of
the 19 member States of the Rio Group, during
consideration of the fourth quarterly report of the
Counter-Terrorism Committee established pursuant to
resolution 1373 (2001).
I should like to begin by thanking Sir Jeremy
Greenstock, Chairman of the Committee, for his
excellent work at the helm of the Committee and for
the presentation this morning of his report.
A year after the regrettable terrorist attacks of 11
September 2001, the Rio Group categorically reiterates
its condemnation and rejection of terrorism in all its
forms and manifestations. We the member States of the
Group firmly support all cooperation and coordination
measures adopted at the international and regional
level in order to combat terrorism, on the basis of strict
respect for human rights, the rule of law, international
humanitarian law and other norms and principles of
general international law.
We the member States of the Rio Group are
firmly committed to the implementation of resolution
1373 (2001). Where it has been necessary, and in order
fully to comply with the obligations set out in that
resolution, our countries have prepared new legislation
and have ratified or initiated the process of ratification
of those international ant-terrorism conventions that
had not been ratified earlier.
The Counter-Terrorism Committee has the
fundamental task of establishing a constructive
dialogue with all States Members of the United Nations
in order to ensure that all nations have adopted
effective measures to prevent, eradicate and punish
terrorist acts. The success of the Committee depends on
its capacity to generate ongoing communication
between this Organization and its Member States in
order to strengthen intergovernmental and inter-
institutional cooperation and assistance in the fight
against terrorism.
We the member States of the Rio Group
appreciate the opportunity for a constructive dialogue
provided by the submission and consideration of
national reports. We recognize the value of the
Committee's recommendations, while noting, as
indicated by Ambassador Greenstock himself, that this
body does not exercise judicial functions or seek to
judge the conduct of States.
The Rio Group notes with satisfaction the
submission of more than 261 national reports, in
accordance with resolution 1373 (2001). We appreciate
the excellent work done by the Committee, which has
enabled it to consider, with professionalism and
transparency, the majority of these reports. We note in
particular the progress achieved in the second round of
exchanges.
We have noted that a small group of States has
not yet submitted initial reports. While we recognize
that some of those States have structural problems
which might have made it difficult to prepare their
respective reports, we deem it essential that they
submit those reports as soon as possible. Therefore we
urge them to contact the Committee's experts, who are
prepared to help them overcome any practical
difficulties they are facing.
We welcome the presentation of the Committee's
programme of work for the fifth 90-day period in
document S/2002/1075. We welcome the Committee's
intention to finalize its consideration of the second
round of letters before 31 December this year as well
as to compile a list of actions undertaken by various
international, regional and subregional organizations.
We are pleased at the Committee's determination
to strengthen its contacts and cooperation with regional
and subregional organizations in order to create
positive synergy among the various multilateral efforts
aimed at countering terrorism. In this context, we
would mention the adoption, at the thirty-second
General Assembly of the Organization of American
States, of the Inter-American Convention against
Terrorism and of a resolution on human rights and
terrorism - resolution 1906 (XXXII-0/02), dated 3
June 2002.
We have noted, however, that regional
organizations can only act within the respective
legislative mandates and in accordance with their
constitutions. In this framework, cooperation between
these organizations and the Committee should be
carried out with strict compliance for these mandates.
It is essential for these States which make up the
various regional and subregional entities to consider
the role which each of them can play in combating this
crime.
We have observed the intention of the Counter-
Terrorism Committee to remain in constant contact
with the High Commissioner for Human Rights. This
Committee must always be aware of the
interrelationship between combating terrorism and the
full observance of human rights.
We the member States of the Rio Group are aware
that combating terrorism means attacking structural
conditions which promote terrorism. With this in mind,
we feel it necessary to achieve the goals enshrined in
the Millennium Declaration, substantially reducing
levels of poverty and improving conditions for health,
housing, education and democracy throughout the
world.
Moreover, the Rio Group is pleased with the
increase in international cooperation to combat
terrorism. In this context, we have noted with
satisfaction renewed bilateral assistance as well as
technical assistance, and financial cooperation
undertaken through the Committee.
In addition, we must reiterate our concern at the
financial situation of the Committee. We feel it
essential to apportion sufficient resources to the
Committee so that it can effectively carry out its work.
The members of the Rio Group are aware that
combating terrorism must lead us to build more open
and tolerant societies. Combating this scourge must
promote the creation of a true culture of peace,
tolerance and solidarity. The members of the Rio
Group are firmly committed to this objective.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Costa Rica for his kind words
addressed to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Egypt. I invite him to take a seat at
the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Aboul Gheit (Egypt) (spoke in Arabic):
There is no doubt that nowadays there is a consensus
on the importance of collective international effort to
combat terrorism, suppress terrorist acts, arrest those
who commit them, and block their funding resources.
The tragic events of 11 September have focused
the world's attention on the fact that there is no
alternative to global international cooperation to
combat this phenomenon, which knows no boundaries
and belongs to no religion or culture. Those who
perpetrate these terrorist acts belong to all religions and
cultures, as do their victims.
Egypt is among those countries that have suffered
from terrorism, having been the victim of different
terrorist acts. This led it to adopt early on legal and
security measures in order to confront this
phenomenon. Experience demonstrated to us that the
fight against it cannot be confined to a security or a
political approach. In addition to the security and
political aspects, we must include economic, social and
legal ones, as well as questions of human rights, in
order to achieve concrete results when faced with this
criminal action.
Such an approach requires us to deal with
international terrorism comprehensively, in a way that
takes into account its many manifestations, different
causes, and the means to combat it under its different
guises.
In this context, we must not confuse terrorism -
which we refuse, condemn and combat - with the
legitimate right to self-defence against foreign
occupation. This is a legitimate defence that is in
agreement with the principles of resisting aggression,
occupation, the usurping of rights, and the obliteration
of identity. Exercising this right was illustrated by
popular resistance in Europe and in the United States in
order to end foreign occupation. It was also exercised
by people in Latin America, Asia and Africa, in order
to gain independence. It is a right confirmed by
international law and the United Nations Charter, and
by the resolutions and declarations promulgated by this
international Organization.
During the past year, the United Nations has
shown that it is an effective instrument for coordinating
international efforts to combat terrorism. On that basis,
Egypt resolved to be among the first countries to
respond favourably to Security Council resolution 1373
(2001). In fact, Egypt presented two complete reports
to the newly formed Counter-Terrorism Committee
(CTC), pursuant to that resolution, describing the
measures and actions taken by the Government of
Egypt to combat terrorism.
Furthermore, within the same context, the
Egyptian parliament last June enacted a new statute to
combat money laundering. That ensures the integration
of the national measures to fight terrorism with
international criteria in this regard.
The war against international terrorism and its
manifestations must be waged forcefully. It is crucial,
however, when waging this war, that we be vigilant to
certain factors that cannot be neglected. Among these
is the fact that this war requires the involvement of the
entire international community, and not of a few
nations. In the context of these efforts, we should not
fall into any trap that international terrorism prepares
for us, namely, the appearance of disagreements or
tensions among different members of the international
community.
This war should rather be waged by a broad-
based international coalition, in accordance with
agreed-upon international laws and with Security
Council resolutions and other international
conventions.
We are convinced that what we have mentioned
previously is an extremely important point, one about
which we must be careful, given the dangers and
nefarious effects that this may have on our common
efforts. This point relates to kindling tensions between
the different entities of the international community.
Egypt is convinced that this international
Organization, as an effective instrument that represents
international will and legality, can play a pioneering
role in the fight against terrorism. We therefore expect
the United Nations to pursue its role and fulfil its
responsibilities in that regard. Egypt will honour its
obligations by supporting the efforts of the
Organization and by cooperating with it to collectively
succeed in combating terrorism and ending its evils.
In conclusion, we would like to recognize the
efforts of the Chairman of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee, Sir Jeremy Greenstock. We appreciate his
hard work, patience, determination and complete
credibility in seeking to implement the provisions of
resolution 1373 (2001) without any problems or
tensions. It is thanks to his efforts that we have been
able to get to where we are today in our international
efforts. We thank him for his efforts.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
representative of Egypt for his kind words addressed to
me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of India. I invite him to take a seat at the
Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Nambiar (India): We extend our warmest
congratulations to you, Mr. President, on your
assumption of the presidency of the Security Council
for this month. We wish you success in dealing with
the complicated issues engaging the attention of this
body. We would also like to take this opportunity to
congratulate Bulgaria on the work achieved during the
month of its presidency, coinciding as it did with the
anniversary of the attacks of 11 September and the
general debate in the General Assembly. I also take this
opportunity to congratulate Angola, Chile, Germany,
Pakistan and Spain on their election by the General
Assembly to the Council beginning next year.
We commend your initiative, Mr. President, to
convene this open meeting of the Council on the
subject of counter-terrorism, which is the overriding
concern of the international community today. One
year after the catastrophe of 11 September, such a
meeting is opportune to review the progress achieved
in our common endeavour to extirpate this
phenomenon from our midst and to assess what more
needs to be done in this regard.
For some decades, global terrorism has fixed its
malign attention upon many countries across the world,
bringing in its wake the pain and waste of human
tragedy through wanton murders, mindless mayhem
and indiscriminate destruction. In recent years this
phenomenon has become more pervasive, organized
and networked, arising as it has from the debris of the
polarizations, divisions and conflicts that characterized
the cold war era.
The response of the international community to
this challenge had, until recently, been generally
episodic, sometimes apathetic, and characterized often
by tokenism. Perhaps this was due to a sense of
immunity felt by some societies from the worst
manifestations of this phenomenon. Without their
conscious engagement, political will and
determination, no struggle against terrorism could
become a global reality. States that were victims of
terrorism, which had hitherto faced this challenge on
their own, now find support and sympathy. Indeed,
they have now been asked to join the coalition to
combat this global evil.
We in India believe that terrorism is a common
enemy of all peoples, of all beliefs and of all religions.
It is a disorder that seeks to undermine the peaceful,
democratic and cooperative order that most civil
societies aspire to attain. The act of terror is intended
to cause physical, psychological, social and political
damage on a scale that is meant to destabilize
communities and to disrupt and retard peace, economic
progress and development, social harmony and
political institution-building. We know from experience
that open, liberal and democratic societies are
particularly vulnerable.
India has been a victim of State-sponsored, cross-
border terrorism for two decades now, with a
horrendous toll of tens of thousands of persons killed.
The recent terrorist attack in a place of worship in
Gandhinagar, Gujarat, left over 30 innocent men,
women and children dead and hundreds of others
wounded. The determination of the people of the state
of Jammu and Kashmir to exercise their electoral right
to choose their representatives has been marred by a
campaign of intimidation and terror inspired from
across the border. That campaign has been designed
specifically to foster a climate of fear and instability.
But, as is abundantly clear in all democratic societies
and as has been expressly confirmed in this case as
well, the preferred option invariably is that of the ballot
over the bullet. Our commitment to the preservation of
the rule of law also remains undiminished.
The international community has responded to the
collective challenge created by terrorism and its
backers through resolutions of the General Assembly
and the Security Council. The global war against
terrorism has so far been successfully conducted
against Al Qaeda and has resulted in the removal of the
regressive and obscurantist Taliban regime in
Afghanistan. Security Council resolution 1373 (2001)
has sent a clear and unambiguous message that the
world community will no longer tolerate terrorists or
their sponsors; that the international community is
determined to hold the perpetrators and instigators of
terror to account; and that the civilized world will no
longer permit such acts to be conducted with impunity.
India unreservedly supports resolution 1373 (2001).
The anguish and suffering caused by terrorism is
well known to us. We have fought this terror and will
continue to do so with unflinching determination and
resolve. We have also gained valuable lessons from this
tragic period. It is against that background that we
would like to share with the Security Council some
suggestions that we hope will be beneficial to the
implementation of the counter-terrorism resolution and
a more effective response from the Council and the
Committee to this grave threat to international peace
and security.
The Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC) has
worked with unceasing effort to coordinate an
international approach to tackling international
terrorism. We commend Ambassador Greenstock and
his colleagues on the Committee, as well as the experts
who have helped in furthering the Committee's work,
for their untiring labour and productive results. We
appreciate the fact that the Chairman of the Committee
has held regular briefing sessions for Member States on
the progress made by the Committee in implementing
the resolution.
Member States have responded promptly to the
resolution, judging by the fact that over 170 national
reports have been received by the CTC in the first
round of reporting, while 83 countries have submitted a
second round of reports. This reflects the importance
the membership attaches to the work of the Committee
and the support it enjoys across the board. I would like
to reiterate here that India is fully committed to
implementing its obligations under resolution 1373
(2001). We have submitted two reports so far.
The CTC has been doing commendable work in
persuading Member States to take legislative and other
measures that comply with resolution 1373 (2001). But
there is a long way to go before we can say we have
been able to make resolution 1373 (2001) really
effective and operational. It is not beyond the
knowledge of the Council that even when Member
States have ratified other anti-terrorism conventions
there has been more than one instance of blatant non-
compliance. Neither the United Nations nor the
Member States affected has been able to do much about
it. Therefore, enforceability of violations assumes
significance.
I would like draw the particular attention of the
Council to sub-paragraphs 2(b), (d) and (e) and 3(a) of
resolution 1373 (2001). They deal with what I would
call cross-border or transnational terrorism. These sub-
paragraphs mandate Members to take actions to
prevent the financial planning and facilitation of
terrorism against other States. Sub-paragraph 2(e) calls
upon States to bring perpetrators of such offences to
justice. Member States may say they have complied
with these provisions in letter, but how is the CTC or
Security Council going to account for the complaint of
a Member State which is a victim of such cross-border
terrorist acts? What is the action that can be taken
against errant Member States?
There is a growing momentum towards
ratification of all twelve sectoral conventions on
terrorism. Countries have also either strengthened
existing legislation to tackle terrorism and strengthened
institutions, procedures and mechanisms to combat the
financing of terrorism, or, where these are absent, have
begun them. These achievements should not be
underestimated. The approach adopted so far by the
CTC to elicit information and then to probe countries
in a manner which encourages them to consider the
deficiencies in their legal system has served a useful
purpose.
However, some work still remains. There are
countries which have not submitted any report, because
of lack of capacity or other reasons. An approach by
the CTC to provide technical assistance, where
required, may be useful in such a context. There have
also been references to a possible regional approach.
This may not be relevant in regions where terrorism
emanates from within the region.
I have earlier reiterated that resolution 1373
(2001) marks a watershed in our common combat
against terrorism. In our view, it is a timely and
ambitious undertaking of the Security Council in
fulfilment of its responsibility to maintain international
peace and security. The Council must act swiftly and
resolutely to implement the counter-terrorism
resolution with neither fear nor favour. I compliment
the Council on the purposeful start it has made and
would like to assure you that the Council and its
Committee will have my delegation's full support in the
fulfilment of their mandate.
The President (spoke in French): The last
speaker on my list this evening is the Permanent
Observer of the Organization of the Islamic
Conference. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Lamani (Organization of the Islamic Conference) (spoke in Arabic): At the outset, I would
like to express our sincere congratulations to you,
Mr. President, and through you to your country, on
your assumption of the presidency of the Security
Council for the month of October. We are confident
that the work of the Council will be successfully
steered under your wise leadership. I would also like to
thank the Secretary-General, Mr. Kofi Annan, for his
statement this morning, and Ambassador Jeremy
Greenstock, the Chairman of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee (CTC), for his eloquent explanation of the
important achievements of the Committee he chairs.
Today, we believe that the convening of this open
meeting of the Council is a further step within the
framework of the tireless international efforts being
undertaken by the Council in combating the scourge of
terrorism.
The Organization of the Islamic Conference
(OIC) has constantly condemned terrorism on the basis
of the noble ethical and humanitarian principles that
are adhered to by its member States, and which stem
from its religious and cultural heritage, proscribing all
forms of injustice, aggression and intolerance, as well
as the organization's adherence to international
consensus and agreement on combating terrorism in all
its forms and eliminating its causes.
Based upon this - and after the Eighth Islamic
Summit Conference held in Tehran in 1997, which
reaffirmed Islam's condemnation of terrorism - the
OIC Convention on Combating International Terrorism
was drafted and later adopted at the twenty-sixth
session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers,
held in Burkina Faso in 1999.
Successive OIC Ministerial Conferences have
reiterated their commitment to this Convention, in
particular those articles stressing the commitment to
refrain from initiating, participating in, financing or
instigating support for terrorist action in any form, and
to those other articles that require the member States
not to use their territories as a basis for masterminding
or organizing terrorist acts.
The Ministers for Foreign Affairs of member
States of the OIC held two extraordinary meetings. The
first was in Doha on 10 October 2001, in the aftermath
of the 11 September 2001 terrorist acts, and it stressed
that these acts run counter to the tolerant teachings of
Islam and called for the convening of an international
conference under the auspices of the United Nations to
formulate a plan of action to combat terrorism.
The second meeting was held in Kuala Lumpur in
April 2002. The Ministers stressed the urgent need to
reach an international consensus on a definition of
terrorism. They also decided to establish a l4-member
open-ended ministerial-level committee on
international terrorism. During the annual coordination
meeting in New York, held on 17 September 2002, the
Ministers for Foreign Affairs of the OIC member States
finalized the composition of this committee with the
following States: Malaysia, Qatar, Iran, the Sudan,
Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt,
Morocco, Palestine, Djibouti, Tunisia and Indonesia.
The Government of Algeria has gracefully offered to
host the first meeting in February 2003.
Both the Security Council and the General
Assembly have adopted a number of important
resolutions calling for the elimination of terrorism and
for the establishment of serious rules for collective
international effort, under the auspices of the United
Nations, to take a unified stand against international
terrorism.
The spread of acts of terrorism all over the world
and the expansion of the phenomenon of extremism in
all mankind's beliefs confirms that the phenomenon of
terrorism is one and is not restricted to one people or
ethnic group or religion.
The international community stands on the pillars
of cultural, religious, scholarly and philosophical
diversity, and such diversity should not be allowed to
adversely affect the unity of this international
community. In this regard, perhaps the best example
would be a quotation from a statement delivered by
French President Mr. Jacques Chirac at UNESCO on
15 October 2001 on the role of cultures and the
different courses of their evolution:
(spoke in French)
"To be sure, cultures do not all develop at
the same pace. They reach their zenith, then
decline; they experience periods of influence and
expansion, as well as times of silence and
contraction. And yet, they all continue to live in
the present in our collective memory. They
fashion our identity and our raison d'etre. They
bring light and pleasure to our existence, the
marvels of poetry and the fine arts, they open the
door to knowledge and transcendence. They also
ponder the dark side of things, questioning
mysteries and riddles. Together, in equal shares,
they have brought light, progress and ethical
rigour to humanity."
(spoke in Arabic)
It is important to state that when we condemn
terrorism, we should, at the same time, also condemn
attempts to abolish the distinction between terrorism
and the legitimate struggle of peoples against colonial
domination or foreign occupation.
The determination of our member States in their
call for the convening of an international conference
under the auspices of the United Nations to define
terrorism and to differentiate between it and the right
of peoples to resist occupation, and to take all
necessary measures to completely eliminate
international terrorism in all its forms and
manifestations, stems from the fact that they suffered
during the nineteenth century and the beginning of the
twentieth century from foreign occupation and
achieved their independence and freedom after long
and bitter struggles for which they paid a high price.
Many areas of our world are still suffering from the
consequences of the preceding colonial era with regard
to the demarcation of their boundaries. Therefore, we
do not want any legitimate struggle to end occupation
to be labelled as terrorism.
In conclusion, it is imperative for all of us as
members of the international community to continue
our efforts against terrorism. We must refrain from
applying double standards in dealing with this grave
phenomenon. Our endeavours in this direction should
be undertaken along with the effort to continue our
support for dialogue among civilizations, in order to
shoulder our responsibility to stand against the
attempts to create distances by feeding the feelings of
hatred and abhorrence. We must all support the
foundations of coexistence - respect and cooperation
among all peoples - to achieve peace and
development.
The President (spoke in French): I thank the
observer of the Organization of the Islamic Conference
for his kind words addressed to me. I invite Sir Jeremy
Greenstock, Chairman of the Counter-Terrorism
Committee, to speak to respond to the questions raised
and comments made.
Sir Jeremy Greenstock: Just a few comments to
pick up on the two points that came out of some
interesting presentations this afternoon focusing
particularly on those issues that are of direct relevance
to the Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC).
Several delegations - I think Yemen was the
first this afternoon - have mentioned the importance
of the 12 international conventions against terrorism.
That is something that the Counter-Terrorism
Committee has repeatedly referred to. It is also
becoming increasingly relevant to each Member State
with regard to the adoption of the right legislation and
ensuring that it meets the standards of resolution 1373
(2001). I am very pleased to notice that some
delegations have picked up the importance of that
reference, but I think every Member State needs to
realize that the 12 anti-terrorist conventions have a
very clear and broad relevance to what we are trying to
do under resolution 1373 (2001). We need to keep on
reminding people and get the regional and international
organizations to take this up with greater momentum,
because that is the quickest and clearest legislative
route to meeting most of the standards of resolution
1373 (2001).
I should also like, in passing, to thank again those
members of the wider United Nations community that
are being particularly proactive in helping their regions
or offering assistance and in generating the spirit that
we need in cooperation between States. I mentioned
one or two in my address this morning, but I would like
to thank in particular Australia, which is doing an
enormous job in the Asian and Pacific regions, and
Algeria, which, in the African Union and in the
Organization of the Islamic Conference, has taken a
lead in trying to bring people together in regional and
wider groups. There are many others. I noticed that
Algeria is not speaking in this debate, but it deserves
some credit for recent initiatives.
I notice that one or two statements -
Liechtenstein and the European Union are two that
come to mind - focused on minimum requirements
and the weakest link, something that Norway referred
to this morning. Again, people should be aware that a
weak link breaks the whole chain and this is a global
effort. That is why the CTC has focused above all on
capacity-building. I am going to come back to it in a
second, but recalling the importance of the weakest
link as a vulnerability in the counter-terrorist effort and
as a huge factor in what we are trying to do in the CTC
is very important.
That is why it is also important that we should be
mainstreaming counter-terrorism. I think that during
our next period we will look more deeply into the
interconnection between counter-terrorism and
countering other forms of international organized
crime, and, indeed, preserving security in all sorts of
ways across the broad spectrum of United Nations
business. But getting counter-terrorism into the
standard work that we do in security, development and
combating crime is very important.
The last area is one raised by India, which I think
is quite important. We are going to come to it in the
CTC. It is enforcement and enforceability. I think that
Member States are right to raise that. We have not
gotten to it yet in the CTC, because we have to start
with capacity-building and we have to focus in the
early period on creating political momentum; in those
two areas we create an objectivity in what we are
doing. India, I think, said neither fear nor favour in
these matters - and objectivity, which will make it
more possible, if we succeed in those first two areas, to
deal with the hard cases. When we have established -
we are half way to it, but we have not done it yet -
that objectivity and the Committee feels able to move
on in unanimity to some of the questions of
enforcement, then I think that we can consider how we
approach failures to meet the necessary standard. But I
would also add that enforcement is a matter for the
Security Council as a whole, and not for the Counter-
Terrorism Committee. We would need to bring those
failures to the Security Council, and not try to deal
with them ourselves. We have to do the analysis and
the groundwork on particular cases. I hope that before I
finish my job as Chairman of the Committee, we will
begin to focus on those areas that really need attention.
I look forward to further interventions when you
recall this debate, Mr. President, and I am grateful to
you for presiding today over a very interesting set of
exchanges.
The President (spoke in French): I thank Council will continue consideration of this agenda item
Sir Jeremy Greenstock for his clarifications. The on Monday, 7 October 2002, at 3 pm.
The meeting was suspended at 6.351).m.
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