S/PV.4646Resumption1 Security Council
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The President (spoke in Chinese): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of the
Republic of Korea. I invite him to take a seat at the
Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Sun (Republic of Korea): The Secretary-
General's report (8/2002/ 1223) on the United Nations
Mission of Support in East Timor (UNMISET) gives
positive indications that Timor-Leste is, by and large,
well on the path towards becoming a democratic and
economically viable nation: legislative networks have
been taking root, administrative structures are
functioning relatively well and the economy is in better
shape.
These initial achievements can certainly be
attributed to the wisdom and aspirations of the leaders
and the people of Timor-Leste, as well as to the
commitment of the international community. In that
regard, my delegation appreciates the leadership of
Ambassador Kamalesh Sharma, the Special
Representative of the Secretary-General, who has
shown considerable energy and competence.
Half a year has passed since we celebrated the
yearned-for independence of Timor-Leste. My
Government attaches great value to the role of
UNMISET, the successor mission to the United Nations
Transitional Administration in East Timor, in pursuing
a well devised, milestone-based approach towards the
Mission's gradual withdrawal over a two-year period.
In that regard, my delegation notes with satisfaction the
Secretary-General's observation that UNMISET has
been able to adhere generally to the timetables, as that
observation exemplifies the success of the Mission
during the past six months. As one of the major troop-
contributing countries to the military component of
UNMISET, the Republic of Korea will continue to
fulfil its share of the responsibilities until the Mission's
mandate is accomplished.
Noteworthy, too, is Timor-Leste's smooth
integration into the community of nations. The world
welcomed that nation as the l9lst State Member of the
United Nations last September. Timor-Leste has joined
major international and regional institutions, such as
the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank, and,
more importantly, maintains firm diplomatic relations
with regional States, as well as with the wider world at
large. The Republic of Korea has an ambassadorial
representation in Timor-Leste and is committed to
promoting stronger relations with that new nation on
every front.
The Secretary-General's report aptly reminds us
that, even with the steady progress that has
materialized thus far, there remain many challenges to
be tackled. Unfilled vacancies in the Government
sector, insufficient staffing of qualified officials, the
weak judicial system and acute resource constraints in
many parts of the administration are among those
challenges. As has been the case in the past few years,
the Republic of Korea will continue to extend,
wherever possible, its humanitarian and development
assistance to Timor-Leste, including in-kind, financial
and training assistance. We believe that the continued
commitment of the international community is an
indispensable factor in enabling that new nation to
develop as a democratic and prosperous nation.
The President (spoke in Chinese): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Ukraine. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Kuchinsky (Ukraine): I wish to express our
gratitude and appreciation to your delegation, Sir, for
convening this important meeting.
As Ukraine's principled position on Timor-Leste
has already been stated in the Council on numerous
occasions, I shall confine myself to making a few short
remarks in connection with today's discussion.
We are happy to ascertain that the Government of
Timor-Leste has already taken office and that its
national institutions have assumed responsibility for
the management of its affairs. The Parliament has
adopted its first pieces of legislation on a number of
important issues. The country has become a member of
the World Bank, the Asian Development Bank and the
Community of Portuguese-Speaking Countries. It has
established diplomatic relations with nearly all States
members of the Association of South-East Asian
Nations. On 27 September 2002, Timor-Leste was
admitted as the l9lst State Member of the United
Nations. We believe that all this also reflects the results
of the work done by the United Nations, and
specifically by the United Nations Mission of Support
in East Timor (UNMISET), led by Ambassador
Kamalesh Sharma.
Security Council resolution 1410 (2002), which
established UNMISET, marked the launching of a new
phase of partnership between the United Nations and
Timor-Leste, in which steadfast cooperation and
support in many critical areas has brought tangible
results.
UNMISET and the United Nations relief agencies
have helped the country to achieve steady progress for
the past sixth months in restoring essential services and
in reaching its development targets. The United
Nations relief, rehabilitation and development
programmes in Timor-Leste have managed to make
progress in rebuilding various components of the
country's infrastructure. Significant progress has been
made in the rehabilitation of physical and social
infrastructure and in the provision of social services,
especially in health and education. We believe that
continued international support is needed for the
strengthening of the capacity of national institutions.
We welcome, in this regard, the support being provided
to the Government of Timor-Leste by Indonesia,
Australia and other countries.
Despite the considerable efforts made over the
past six months, a number of critical elements of the
State remain fragile. One of the sensitive points of the
State-building strategy for Timor-Leste is the
administrative and governmental system. Building
Timorese public services remains one of the most
difficult aspects of UNMISET's mandate. There is still
a grave shortage of qualified and experienced Timorese
across all areas of government activity, particularly in
the justice sector. In this regard, we welcome
UNMISET's civilian support programme of advisers
aimed at promoting a broad-based, self-sustaining and
self-reliant administration of Timor Leste. In our view,
international advisers should continue to assist to
ensure that capacity-building can be maintained by
Timorese nationals and their institutions with minimal
external support.
The resolution of the refugee problem remains
another crucial issue and a prerequisite to ensuring
stability in the country. We welcome the efforts of the
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and
the International Organization for Migration to help
refugees to return to Timor-Leste by the end of this
year, hopefully. The complete return of refugees from
West Timor should remain a firm priority in order to
guarantee security on both sides of the border. We
stress the need to preserve the refugee status of the
Timorese who, under certain circumstances, may stay
in West Timor after December 2002.
The issue of the accountability of those
responsible for serious crimes committed in 1999
continues to represent a serious concern for the
international community. We urge both Timor-Leste
and Indonesia to cooperate closely in bringing to
justice all violators of human rights.
As a member of the Security Council, Ukraine
took part in the history-making United Nations mission
to East Timor in November 2000. My country is proud
to have taken an active part in the international nation-
building efforts there. We have contributed a number of
officers to the UNMISET civilian police component
since its inception, thus assisting in the establishment
of an effective Timorese Police Service and promoting
its capability.
In conclusion, let me emphasize that UNMISET
has succeeded so far in the fulfilment of its mandate
and I should like to reiterate Ukraine's continued
support for the strenuous efforts of the United Nations
and UNMISET in Timor-Leste, as well as Ukraine's
readiness to provide all necessary assistance.
The President (spoke in Chinese): I thank the
representative of Ukraine for his kind words addressed
to me.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of Japan. I invite him to take a seat at
the Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Haraguchi (Japan): I would like to thank
you, Mr. President, for convening this open meeting on
the situation in Timor-Leste. My thanks go as well to
the Special Representative of the Secretary-General,
Ambassador Kamalesh Sharma, for his useful report.
We appreciate the report of Secretary-General
Kofi Annan of 6 November 2002 on the United Nations
Mission of Support in East Timor (UNMISET). It
provides a comprehensive account of the situation in
Timor-Leste six months after it achieved its
independence, as well as an account of the activities of
UNMISET. The Government of Japan welcomes the
fact that Timor-Leste is continuing to make steady
nation-building efforts. On the other hand, the country
still faces a number of challenges, including the
building of a self-sustainable nation, resolution of
refugee issues, national reconciliation, and the
strengthening of relations with neighbouring States, as
described in the Secretary-General's report.
It is said that heaven helps those who help
themselves; Timor-Leste is no exception. In the nation-
building process, the endeavours of the people of
Timor-Leste are of primary importance. It is first of all
necessary that they work towards reconstruction and
development while promoting national reconciliation
so that united efforts for the construction of a self-
reliant nation are possible. As long as they continue to
make such earnest efforts on their own behalf, it is
incumbent upon the international community to
continue to assist them, thereby consolidating the
achievements that have been realized through
assistance extended in the past.
Japan, for its part, has been the largest donor of
assistance to Timor-Leste, and intends to continue
providing such assistance to the fullest extent possible
for self-sustainable nation-building. At the donor
conference last May we pledged a contribution of up to
$60 million for the coming three years. Japan hopes to
make use of bilateral cooperation to realize this
contribution, and to this end met with international and
non-governmental organizations in Dili on 5 and 6
November to discuss future Japanese assistance for
Timor-Leste.
Based upon the deliberations at that meeting, the
following day Japan and Timor-Leste held an inter-
governmental policy consultation on economic
cooperation. During that consultation, Japan expressed
its intention to continue providing assistance, with an
emphasis on human resources development,
agriculture, infrastructure, and peace-building.
Furthermore, from the viewpoint of enhancing human
security, the Government of Japan is contributing
approximately $6 million in the areas of agriculture
and community reconstruction through the Trust Fund
for Human Security.
I wish to add that the Government of Japan
appreciates the activities of the Commission for
Reception, Truth and Reconciliation of Timor-Leste in
fostering reconciliation between former pro-
independence groups and former pro-integration
groups, and has contributed $530,000 to the
Commission. National reconciliation is of crucial
importance for the future of the country, and we will
continue to provide assistance in that area.
We welcome the steady progress that UNMISET
has made in implementing the mandates entrusted to it
by the Security Council in resolution 1410 (2002). That
progress has enabled it to meet the timetables set by the
Secretary-General in his previous reports. I am
informed that the engineering unit dispatched by Japan
is working effectively in cooperation with the people of
Timor-Leste. Japan would like to request the Secretary-
General to proceed with the implementation of
UNMISET's downsizing plan while evaluating the
evolving situation in the field carefully. In so doing, he
should continue to consult closely with troop-
contributing countries.
The President (spoke in Chinese): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Portugal. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Macieira (Portugal): We are grateful to you
for convening this open meeting of the Security
Council to examine the report of the Secretary-General
on the United Nations Mission of Support in East
Timor, covering the first five months since the
independence of Timor-Leste.
The representative of Denmark has already
spoken on behalf of the European Union and, of
course, of Portugal. I would like to take the opportunity
to add a few words on certain issues of particular
concern to my delegation.
Portugal extends its strong support to the
important efforts and activities of the United Nations
under the engaged leadership of Special Representative
Kamalesh Sharma, assisting the authorities of Timor-
Leste at every level, particularly its emerging
institutions, and ensuring sustained momentum in the
development and strengthening of infrastructures,
public administration, and law enforcement
capabilities.
We welcome the well-structured and balanced
report of the Secretary-General on the three areas
mandated by the Security Council in resolution 1410
(2002). Particularly noteworthy is the focus of the
report on the activities undertaken by the Government
of Timor-Leste in seeking to promote a broad-based
democracy and meet the demands of its citizens by
gradually adopting the necessary legal framework and
institutionalizing the protection of human rights.
These are important developments,
notwithstanding some difficulties still being
experienced in the functioning of Timor-Leste's
judicial system. Some of these difficulties arise from a
lack of crucial financial and human resources for
capacity building. These needs are being addressed
constructively, by order of priority and with the
assistance of the United Nations, in a Government plan
to enhance the justice sector in accordance with the
legitimate options of language and legal system
established under the constitution of Timor-Leste.
Another issue to be highly commended is the
speedy progress on the part of Timor-Leste to ensure
good-neighbourly relations with other States of the
region, with particular emphasis on the relations with
Indonesia.
Timor-Leste has moved quickly towards
becoming a member of international organizations,
such as the World Bank, the Community of Portuguese-
Speaking Countries and the Asian Development Bank.
This is a further illustration of its efforts to overcome
economic difficulties and begin laying foundations for
the future management of its natural resources, that
will allow it to produce sufficient revenue to meet its
developmental needs in the future.
Until the day that Timor-Leste can rely largely on
its own resources, the international community must
stay involved, particularly in the areas identified for
support, such as stability, democracy and justice, as
well as public security, law enforcement, external
security and border control. The downsizing of
UNMISET must, therefore, proceed accordingly and
with extreme caution in order to ensure the
consolidation of results already achieved.
Portugal's commitment to Timor-Leste has been
and will remain central to our foreign and development
aid policies. Our bilateral direct assistance to Timor-
Leste totalled $57 million in 2000, $65 million in 2001
and $23 million this year. On the multilateral front, we
pledged a total of $50 million at the Tokyo Donors
Conference, of which $15 million was disbursed in
2000 and $15 million in April 2002. Another $10
million should be disbursed this year. Last May we
pledged an additional $9 million specifically for budget
deficit support.
The total involvement is far from exclusively
financial. To the contrary, thousands of Portuguese
have taken part in UNMISET, and before that, in
UNTAET - from peacekeepers and civilian peace
observers as the leading troop contributors, to civil
servants and simple volunteers from all walks of life
contributing what they know to help the people of East
Timor help themselves. That commitment of Portugal
will continue.
The President (spoke in Chinese): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Australia. I invite him to take a seat at the Council
table and to make his statement.
Mr. Blazey (Australia): Thank you for convening
this open meeting on an issue of deep interest to
Australia. I thank Ambassador Sharma for his
comprehensive and valuable briefing on the United
Nations Mission of Support in East Timor (UNMISET)
first six months in operation. I also would like to
record Australia's pleasure at seeing Timor-Leste,
represented by Ambassador Guterres, participate in this
important meeting.
Timor-Leste's participation today as an
independent State symbolizes the important fact that
this is, ultimately, Timor-Leste's own issue. Our task is
simply to assess how well UNMISET has been
assisting Timor-Leste strengthen its institutions and
make the transition to self-reliant statehood and a more
traditional relationship with the donor community.
By all accounts, UNMISET has acquitted itself
extremely well. It is largely on track to fulfil its
mandate. This has been assisted by the good
cooperation between Timor-Leste and Indonesia, which
is detailed in the Secretary-General's report. Good-
neighbourly relations are the bedrock of security in the
region. We are gratified to see progress on bilateral
dialogue to resolve border demarcation and the
constructive first meeting last month of the Indonesia-
East Timor Joint Ministerial Commission. We also
welcome continuing progress on the refugee issue.
Resolving that promptly will mark a very important
milestone and will contribute to the long-term stability
of Timor-Leste and to its sound relations with
Indonesia.
Timor-Leste's establishment of diplomatic
relations with nearly all of its neighbours of the
Association of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN), its
participation in ASEAN meetings as an invited
observer and in Pacific Island Forum meetings as a
special observer augur well for its longer-term
relationships in the region.
Consistent with a generally improving security
environment, the peacekeeping force is on track to
meeting its downsizing targets. That is welcome. The
drawdown timetable and associated milestones
recommended by the Secretary-General and endorsed
by the Council are based on sound planning and
assessments.
That said, it is also true that trends in the security
environment are not linear, and the situation is
inherently dynamic. We welcome the recognition in the
Secretary-General's report and in Ambassador
Sharma's comments that terrorism is an issue that
needs careful attention. Following the devastating
bomb attack in Bali, this point does not need to be
belaboured. But let me underline that, as the region as a
whole redoubles its efforts to combat terror,
UNMISET, too, must examine carefully how it can
assist Timor-Leste to address this international scourge.
In the longer term, the United Nations, including
through the Counter-Terrorism Committee of the
Security Council, needs to consider how best to
coordinate and support donor efforts to strengthen and
develop Timor Leste's indigenous counter-terrorism
capabilities. In this context, I should like to record
Australia's appreciation for the professionalism and
cooperation we have received in recent times from
UNMISET, the Timor-Leste Police Service and the
Government of Timor-Leste, in responding to possible
terrorist threats.
We consider that assistance, with the
development of an effective general policing capability,
should be a high priority for UNMISET. We welcome
recent efforts in that area by UNMISET. The
appointment of a training adviser for the United
Nations civilian police and the Timor-Leste Police
Service and the planned joint needs assessment mission
should help encourage a more strategic and coordinated
approach to strengthening the police. This is crucial,
and it will have Australia's support.
Closely related to the strengthening of the police
is the development of effective border controls.
Building capacity in this area goes directly to
UNMISET's core security mandate. A porous border
could exacerbate internal security problems and
undermine regional and global efforts against terrorism
and other transborder security challenges.
The need for greater attention to the justice sector
is widely acknowledged. I will not go through the
details, which are clearly set out in the Secretary-
General's report. Suffice it to say that more effort is
required to foster efficient and professionally
functioning courts and a prison system. Practical
solutions will be important. In that context, we also
note the importance of the United Nations supporting
the work of the Serious Crimes Unit.
Capacity limitations in the justice sector are only
one of many that Timor-Leste's administration faces.
Building up Timor-Leste's administrative and
governance capabilities presents a substantial ongoing
challenge and underlines the wisdom of the decision in
resolution 1410 (2002) to help Timor-Leste in those
areas. Such assistance is, of course, not simply the
responsibility of UNMISET. Bilateral and multilateral
support remains vital. Australia encourages that,
including through donors meeting their pledges in a
timely way.
Let me conclude by congratulating Ambassador
Sharma and UNMISET on the excellent start they have
made in partnership with the Government of Timor-
Leste. It is true, as Australia has often said, that the
United Nations involvement in Timor-Leste has shown
the Organization at its best. Australia, for its part,
remains committed to assisting Timor-Leste, including
through UNMISET, as best it can.
The President (spoke in Chinese): The next
speaker inscribed on my list is the representative of
Thailand. I invite him to take a seat at the Council table
and to make his statement.
Mr. Kasemsarn (Thailand): Allow me to pay
tribute to you, Sir, and to China for presiding over the
Security Council this month. I join others before me in
thanking Ambassador Guterres for his statement and
Ambassador Sharma, Special Representative of the
Secretary-General, for his useful briefing on the
development and progress achieved in the Democratic
Republic of Timor-Leste.
We are encouraged by positive developments in
Timor-Leste, as highlighted in the Secretary-General's
report. Despite resource constraints, the Timor-Leste
leadership should be commended for its unwavering
determination in consolidating and strengthening the
country's foundations within a short span of time since
independence. We also commend the United Nations
Mission of Support in East Timor (UNMISET) for its
continued assistance to the Government of Timor-Leste
and its close cooperation with the donor communities,
intergovernmental agencies and other United Nations
agencies in accordance with Security Council
resolution 1410 (2002).
We fully agree with the Secretary-General that
the continued engagement of the international
community in securing a solid foundation for the long-
term stability of Timor-Leste is vital. We therefore urge
the donor community to help narrow the resource gaps
in such priority areas as public administration and the
justice and finance systems, and in other areas as
foreseen in the National Development Plan of Timor-
Leste.
On the maintenance of peace and security,
training assistance for Timorese police and military
personnel is still much needed.
We wish to reiterate what we have stressed on
many occasions, that the support of the United Nations
and the international community in capacity-building is
of the highest priority if the Timorese are to attain self-
sustainability in the political, economic, social and
cultural development of the country.
The downsizing of UNMISET, with a view to a
smooth transition to traditional development assistance,
must be commensurate with the progress in the
development sector, including in the area of
employment generation.
For our part, Thailand is willing to render support
to the Timorese people in their development effort. Just
recently, Thailand sponsored a training course in local
administration for a group of Timorese leaders. Various
academic institutions in Thailand have now offered
scholarships and training programmes to Timorese
students. The Department of Technical and Economic
Cooperation of the Thai Foreign Ministry has just
announced 10 scholarships for Timorese students in the
areas of agriculture and health. In that connection, at
the end of this month, the director-general of that
department will lead a delegation to Dili comprising
both the Government and the private sector to discuss
further bilateral cooperation and assess the needs of the
Timorese in order to formulate a long-term assistance
plan. It is envisaged that the plan will primarily focus
on education, agriculture and health, and that it could
later be expanded to other areas.
Thailand will continue to support the work of
UNMISET through its contribution of police and
military personnel and through economic assistance.
We hope that such contributions, in conjunction with
the various assistance programmes, will help foster
capacity-building at the grass-roots level for the
population of Timor-Leste so that, over time, they can
participate in the regional and global economies on an
equal footing.
The President (spoke in Chinese): I thank the
representative of Thailand for his kind words addressed
to me and my country.
The next speaker inscribed on my list is the
representative of India. I invite him to take a seat at the
Council table and to make his statement.
Mr. Nambiar (India): Let me begin by
congratulating you, Sir, on your assumption of the
presidency of the Security Council at this critical
juncture in the Council's management of issues relating
to international peace and security. I would also like to
take this opportunity to warmly felicitate the
representative of Cameroon for his exemplary
stewardship of the Security Council during an
unusually active period of time last month.
India attaches great importance to its relations
with Timor-Leste. We have sought to contribute to the
country's development by providing expertise and
training in areas of our competence, and where we see
complementarities in their application. To that end, we
have offered 50 scholarships to East Timor in technical
and economic areas, as well as separate scholarships
for study in Indian universities in the areas of
agriculture and in the information technology sector,
involving the upgrading of skills. India made a
statement on this subject during the last meeting of the
Security Council on the issue of Timor-Leste, last
August. I shall therefore confine my statement on this
occasion to a few brief remarks pertaining to the report
of the Secretary-General (S/2002/1223) on the United
Nations Mission of Support in East Timor
(UNMISET).
I wish to take this opportunity to formally place
on the record of the Council our felicitation to Timor-
Leste on its entry into the United Nations as the
Organization's l9lst Member State. We are happy to
see Ambassador Guterres with us at the table.
The Secretary-General's report informs us of the
country's accession to other international bodies, such
as the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank,
and of its establishment of diplomatic relations with a
number of countries. India welcomes those
developments. We welcome in particular the growing
relations between Timor-Leste and Indonesia,
underscored by the exchange of State visits between
the two countries and the more recent creation of the
Joint Border Committee.
The Secretary-General has referred to the fact
that the leaders of T imor-Leste have sought, since their
independence, to promote a broad-based democracy
and to heed concerns or complaints expressed by their
citizens. India welcomes the embrace of democracy by
Timor-Leste and its steady process of institutionalizing
the protection of human rights in the country. Our own
commitment to democracy since independence, and the
fundamental right to freedom of speech and expression
enjoyed by all our citizens, leads us to recognize the
enormous value and utility of such an exercise for a
nation and a people. We wholeheartedly agree with the
characterization made by the Special Representative of
the Secretary-General with regard to the leadership of
Timor-Leste, specifically as regards President Xanana
Gusmao, Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri and Senior
Minister and Foreign Minister Jose Ramos-Horta, as
significant assets of that nation at its current historical
stage.
UNMISET has to play the role of enabler and
facilitator of the larger political, social and economic
goals of Timor-Leste. This is a major responsibility and
requires the support of the international community.
The Secretary-General has referred to unpaid
assessments to UNMISET's special account for the
period since the inception of the Mission, which
amount to $213.6 million. We believe that continued
and timely support for UNMISET's budget will greatly
enhance its ability to assist Timor-Leste towards self-
sufficiency as a nation. There is also need to address
the significant shortfall in resources hindering the
pressing need to fill posts required to develop capacity
in Timor-Leste's public administration.
At the same time, we note that East Timor has
been endowed with enormous potential for revenue
from its hydrocarbon deposits, commercially
exploitable coastline, agricultural base and tourism
attributes. These must be exploited in an efficient and
environmentally friendly manner, so as to empower the
nascent State with the resources required for self-
sufficiency and economic independence in the shortest
possible period of time.
We note with satisfaction that, during the first
three months of the fiscal year 2002-2003, the
Government of Timor-Leste successfully collected 23
per cent of its budgeted revenue despite the economic
contraction following the withdrawal of a significant
international presence. However, the lack of
sustainable assets, resulting in unemployment in the
range of 90 per cent, and the dependence on
international aid continue to beset the nation. These
issues need to be addressed.
The Secretary-General has drawn attention to the
functioning of the country's justice system. We believe
that the concurrent development of the judicial,
legislative and executive branches is important for the
balanced development of a nation. In addition, the
constraints faced owing to the lack of adequate
development of the judicial system will also hinder
efforts to bring to justice those responsible for serious
crimes committed in 1999.
We take this opportunity to express our
condolences to the families of the two UNMISET
peacekeepers who died in last month's bombing in
Bali, and to express our solidarity with the members of
UNMISET on the loss of their comrades. We note that
in his statement the Special Representative of the
Secretary-General alluded to the new shadow of
terrorism that has fallen over the region. As a country
familiar with the consequences of terrorist acts
perpetrated without regard for national boundaries or
norms of human decency, we agree that enhanced
vigilance and improved capacities need to be put in
place in Timor-Leste.
Before concluding my statement, I would like to
join others who have spoken before me in paying
tribute to the dedicated role played by the Special
Representative of the Secretary-General, who is my
predecessor as representative of India, and his team in
ensuring UNMISET's contribution and utility to
Timor-Leste.
The President (spoke in Chinese): There are no
further speakers on my list. I shall now give the floor
to Mr. Sharma to respond to comments and questions
that have been raised.
Mr. Sharma: I wish to express my appreciation
to all the delegations that have spoken today. Their
views and advice provide extremely important and
valuable input in our work. Some of the points that
were made need to be accorded greater reflection and
scrutiny, and I assure members that we shall do this.
The words of support which delegations have spoken
for our efforts have been of great encouragement to us,
and I shall certainly convey those words to my team,
which supports me so well. I thank delegations for the
confidence they have expressed. We hope to live up to
it.
I particularly thank the many delegations that
have advocated continued and strengthened donor
support to Timor-Leste; such partnership will be
essential to Timor-Leste for many, many years to come.
We rely on this continued commitment and solidarity,
which has to date been so generously in evidence from
all institutional and national partners and civil society.
Many delegations, indeed, have expressed this in their
statements.
As I have been kindly invited by you to respond,
Mr. President, I shall not abuse your generosity
overmuch. I intend to respond very briefly, and I hope
my observations are found to be of interest and useful
on some of the points which have been common to
statements by delegations and on others that were very
pointedly put in the form of questions addressed to me.
The most important theme, I find, as emphasized by the
majority of delegations, is that of justice and the rule of
law. I strongly believe that the rule of law is the
foundation for all other societal and Government
activities. That view is shared by the leaders of Timor-
Leste, as I indicated in my statement.
However, we have to recognize that inherent
difficulties related to judges' lack of experience, court
language and the legal system are, and will remain, a
continuing challenge. There will be a continuing long-
term need for international assistance, within the
Ministry of Justice, the courts and the prison sector,
well beyond the mandate of the United Nations
Mission of Support in East Timor (UNMISET).
I have, therefore, been consciously involving the
United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and
other multilateral and bilateral agencies in any
initiatives that UNMISET takes in order to promote the
objectives of the Government of Timor-Leste in
enhancing the functioning of the judicial system. In
this, it is important to bear in mind that we can, at best,
play the role of adviser and facilitator. The Deputy
Special Representative of the Secretary-General,
Sukehiro Hasegawa, who is also the UNDP Resident
Representative, in consultation with me, has prepared
input to the action plan of the Ministry of Justice; this
was an extensive document and, I believe, was
appreciated. The document set out what we saw as
challenges, the way in which those challenges could be
met, and who could be the potential partners in meeting
those challenges. An outline of the plan, as developed
by the Ministry of Justice as a national plan, was
presented to donors on 11 October. I should also inform
members that we are pursuing our contribution in this
sector by deploying needs assessment missions, also
coordinated by UNDP.
An assessment team on the prison system visited
last month and has already issued an extremely useful
report. Currently, there is also an assessment team in
the police sector.
A delegation made reference to the Judicial
Magistrates Statutes. Here again, I would emphasize
that, on the draft legislation, we had made our advice
clearly known both to the Government and to
Parliament, and we had also invited the Special
Rapporteur of the Commission on Human Rights on the
independence of judges and lawyers, Mr. Param
Cumaraswamy, and the Government also had the
benefit of his views. An issue was raised about the
legality of detentions. This issue is known, and also
forms part of the prison assessment report.
The other important theme emphasized by many
delegations was the role of human rights and the office
of the "Provedor". We have been instrumental in
promoting the search for the appropriate role for the
"Provedor", and a seminar was arranged on this team.
UNMISET has also mainstreamed promotion and
protection of human rights in all its activities. It is also
working towards the creation of a human rights
thematic group, which would involve all United
Nations agencies, funds and programmes.
I should emphasize here that the commitment of
the Government of Timor-Leste to human rights is
exemplary. Just a few days ago, on 6 November, the
Council of Ministers approved the ratification of a
number of human rights treaties. These are being
considered by the national Parliament with a view to
acceding to them by international Human Rights Day
on 10 December. These treaties include the
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights;
the International Covenant on Economic, Social and
Cultural Rights; the International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination; the
Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman
or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; the Convention
on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination
against Women; the Convention on the Rights of the
Child; the International Convention on the Protection
of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of
Their Families; and many others.
It is significant that among the treaties the
Council of Ministers has recommended for signature is
the Migrant Workers' Convention. At present, there are
19 signatories to that Convention, and Timor-Leste's
signature will have the effect of bringing the
Convention into force, since 20 signatures are required.
The Human Rights Unit of UNMISET, in
cooperation with other partners, continues to provide
training to Timorese authorities, particularly the police.
During August and September, a series of three-day
courses were organized for offices of the special police
unit on human rights and conflict management.
Training has also been provided to Timorese police
officers and to the vulnerable persons unit of the police
in various districts.
In Timor-Leste, there has been a small increase in
incidents against returnees. Such incidents are
prompted either by allegations of their involvement in
militia activities or by their efforts to reclaim land that
originally belonged to them. The human rights unit is
monitoring the well-being of returnees and is providing
assistance where appropriate. Such cases underline the
need for continued support for the work of the
Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation
and also the process - mandated by the Council - of
the investigation, prosecution and judgement of serious
crimes. The Commission has achieved full strength and
has conducted the first reconciliation process in Likisa.
Indeed, I visited Likisa and spoke to the
Commissioners personally. All of them were united in
expressing the view that it would be an important
contribution to the process of social healing, to which
President Gusmao attaches such enormous importance.
There were some queries raised as to
international advisers. I shall not talk about the
stability advisers, as most of the questions raised
pertained to the development posts. The 228
development posts that have been identified fall within
four thematic areas: financial services, which has 73;
essential services, such as health, education and
transport, which has 68; governance and centralized
services, which has 57; and the legal and justice
system, which has 30. Of the 228, only 49 have been
recruited thus far and another 33 are in the process of
being recruited, either by the United Nations
Development Programme (UNDP) or by bilateral
donors. Expressions of interest have been received
from donor agencies for another 48 posts, and, even if
all of them materialized, there would be a major
shortfall in funding for 98 positions, or nearly half of
the entire programme.
The largest funding gaps are currently in the
Ministry of Planning and Finance, 24 posts; the
Ministry of Transport, Communications and Public
Works, 20 posts; and centralized services, particularly
translators and legal advisers, 18 posts. We have been
queried as to whether there was something that
UNMISET could do about the time scale of those
development posts. I should clarify that the process
depends entirely upon the willingness and the energy
with which donors pick up the posts after having
examined them. In fact, the full list can be found on a
web site - www.nndp.east-timor.org - and I would
encourage all those in a position to do so to contribute
to this critical programme.
Many questions were raised concerning the
serious-crimes process. Here, something needs to be
said immediately and at the outset. UNMISET is
playing the role that is appropriate for it: ensuring that
all administrative and infrastructure facilities required
by the investigators, prosecutors, defence lawyers and
courts are made available to them. At the same time, it
is acutely aware that it must not interfere - or even
appear to interfere - with the legal and judicial
processes, which will take their own course. We would
be happy to share with any interested delegation the
current state of indictments and other details that we
have. Here, I should emphasize that the question of the
balance between reconciliation and justice is a theme
of the utmost importance in many peacekeeping
missions, and Timor-Leste is no exception.
There was a reference made to the need for a
forensic pathologist. We recognize that need, and we
identified it almost immediately after UNMISET had
begun its work. I personally met the Minister for
Health and officials in the Ministry of Justice in that
regard. To have a facility with a professional forensic
pathologist requires many years, because a cadre with
medical degrees is needed. So what we are also
concentrating on is engaging partners - particularly in
the neighbourhood - who can make their experts
available from time to time so that there is no backlog
in the morgue. We are also seeking long-term solutions.
Many references were made to veterans. A
prominent grievance has been that treatment accorded
to veterans and a lack of programmes devoted to them
may give that sector of the population a sense of denial
of dignity, worth and social usefulness, which needs to
be corrected. That is entirely recognized by the
Government. I have discussed the issue with the
leaders on several occasions, and, as a result of those
discussions, the President has established two
commissions to define and determine the exact
numbers of former combatants of the period 1974-1979
and Falintil veterans of the period 1979-1999. Prime
Minister Alkatiri has also drafted a project proposal for
the gainful employment of Falintil veterans. Those
ideas are being pursued further through the United
Nations Development Programme (UNDP) for
consideration by bilateral and multilateral donors. I
strongly believe that redressing the genuine grievances
of former combatants and of Falintil veterans would
contribute to enhancing the stability of Timor-Leste.
References were also made to border
demarcation. As that is an issue that is closely
connected to UNMISET's mandate, I should like to lay
out the situation very clearly for members. The
previous report (S/2002/432) estimated, in its
paragraph 93, that by July 2003 the border would be
demarcated and its management assumed by civilian
authorities, including the police. It was further
indicated, in paragraph 97, that the process of
demarcating the border was at an early stage and that,
if there were no delays in the process, the boundary
could be determined by the end of 2002 and the
international boundary could be demarcated by July
2003. Security Council resolution 1410 (2002), apart
from requesting UNMISET to give full effect to the
three programmes of the mandate implementation plan,
stressed the critical importance of cooperation between
the Governments of Timor-Leste and Indonesia, as well
as with UNMISET, in particular by working together to
secure agreement on the issue of border demarcation.
I am happy to inform the Council that the
Government of Indonesia have, in cooperation with
UNMISET, attempted to move forward in this
direction. The first meeting of the Joint Ministerial
Commission for Bilateral Cooperation - held in
Jakarta on 7 and 8 October, during which UNMISET
actively cooperated with both countries - agreed to
invite the Joint Border Committee to make every effort
to finalize agreement by 30 June 2003 on a line that
constitutes the border in accordance with the 1904
treaty between Portugal and the Netherlands and the
1914 arbitral decision and other relevant legal
instruments and in accordance with which the land
border can be demarcated unequivocally.
UNMISET is fully prepared to continue its active
cooperation with both countries in their efforts to meet
the target they have established to finalize this
agreement. The first meeting of the renewed Joint
Border Committee, which was revived at the Joint
Commission, is expected to be held in mid December,
and Indonesia and Timor-Leste are in the process of
finalizing mutually convenient dates through regular
diplomatic channels.
Of course, after the agreement on the line that
constitutes the border has been finalized, the process of
physical demarcation - if both countries decide to do
so - may take a fairly long time. However, once the
agreement on the border has been secured, with militia
threats maintained at current low levels and civilian
management of the border assured by concerned
authorities, I do not believe that absence of physical
demarcation should impede the withdrawal of
peacekeeping forces. I believe that you would be able
to maintain a schedule for withdrawal of peacekeeping
forces.
Refugees have also been mentioned by many
delegations. So far, the year 2002 has seen over 29,900
refugee returns to Timor-Leste, as compared to some
18,000 during 2001.
While the year began on a slow note, with 675
and 938 refugee returns being recorded in January and
February, the rate picked up considerably in March,
with 3,644, and almost doubled to 6,031 in April
following encouragement by the then President-elect
Xanana Gusmao during his visit to Atambour and
Kefah along with UNMISET and UNHCR on 4 April.
The high momentum of returns was maintained in May,
June, July and August, when more than 4,000 refugees
returned. In July there were, in fact, more than 5,000.
However, since the first of September, the rate of
return has slowed to a trickle, with 119 returns in
September, 37 in October and 72 so far in November,
of whom 52 returned only yesterday.
However, it has to be recognized that the
repatriation of refugees to Timor-Leste has been a
veritable success story. Out of about 260,000 refugees,
nearly 223,000 have returned to Timor-Leste since the
refugee repatriation movements assisted by UNHCR
and IOM. began three years ago. This figure must be
seen in perspective. As I mentioned in my statement, it
represents a return of over 25 per cent of the entire
population of Timor-Leste.
The return of refugees is motivated by several
factors, such as reconciliation meetings and the work
of the Commission for Reception, Truth and
Reconciliation. After the latest visit, over three days,
by President Gusmao and others, there is the
expectation that the process of refugee return will pick
up.
With regard to relations with Indonesia, which
was alluded to by many delegations, I am happy to
state that this core relationship, guided by the political
leadership in both countries, is developing in a most
cooperative and mutually beneficial manner. The visit
of President Megawati to Timor-Leste for the
Independence Day celebration and that of President
Gusmao to Indonesia on 2 and 3 July - when the Joint
Ministerial Commission was constituted - and an
early meeting of the Commission on 8 and 9 October
and the positive results achieved in the Commission are
to be saluted. In this connection I would like to express
my deep gratitude for the gracious reception accorded
to me by the leadership of Indonesia in the course of
my visit.
A reference was made to a phase five in West
Timor. I believe that this issue is being discussed
between the United Nations Security Coordinator and
the Government of Indonesia.
Another point raised concerned assets and
compensation. A reference was made to the zero option
in this connection. It is true that some statements were
made earlier in which the zero option was
recommended from the side of the Government of
Timor-Leste as a possible solution. However, during
the recent meeting of the Joint Commission this matter
was further discussed, and I wish to inform the Council
that the meeting agreed to seek comprehensive
solutions in the interests of further strengthening
cooperation between close neighbours on residual legal
matters such as assets - private, individual, corporate
and government. In addition, both parties agreed in
principle to find innovative settlements on corporate
assets through conversion of those assets for
Indonesian investment, including joint ventures. Both
parties have agreed to hold a technical meeting within
six months, before the second meeting of the Joint
Commission. We can greet this forward-looking
decisions.
On the question of delimitation of land and sea
borders, which was also referred to, I would like to
state that, at the same meeting of the Joint
Commission, it was decided that the two issues should
be treated separately. The Joint Border Committee was
revived in order to attend to the question of the land
border, on which I have already given the details, but it
was decided that issues relating to marine affairs would
be relegated to another subcommittee of the Joint
Commission because marine affairs involve many
issues which should be attended to holistically, such as
environment and pollution, fisheries, the economic
zone, piracy and shipping issues.
On the issue of benchmarking, the question was
raised of whether we would be able to follow the
excellent example of Mr. Michael Steiner, Special
Representative of the Secretary-General for Kosovo.
Here, I would like to provide the clarification that we
are, indeed, developing and assessing the benchmarks
for UNMISET's mandates, and we would be happy to
share them. But I trust that the distinction will be
appreciated that, with the emergence of a sovereign and
independent Timor-Leste, the benchmarks for the
country as a whole should be those that it decides for
itself. They are nonetheless fairly precise, specific and
measurable, and are contained in the National
Development Plan of Timor-Leste, copies of which can
be easily procured.
One delegation asked whether we could shed
some light on the current economic and budgetary
situation. UNMISET tries to be extremely active in
promoting various forms of useful economic activity
and in giving such advice as we think would be
appropriate, even in the economic field. With regard to
the specific matter of the budgetary and economic
situation, however, I would suggest that a better and,
certainly, more reliable source would be the institutions
of the World Bank and the International Monetary
Fund. I will be discussing this requirement, expressed
by delegations, and we will be indicating on our web
site - which I trust representatives will find
interesting in its own right - how that information can
be accessed by those who are interested. The address of
the site is www.unmiset.org.
You will be relieved, Mr. President, to know that
I am now drawing to a close. I thought I should speak
at some length because of the great engagement of the
various delegations that have spoken. I trust that the
few comments that I have made have been useful for
delegations.
In conclusion, I would like just to allude to
observations made by one delegation that Timor-Leste
has an advantage in being a latecomer among the
comity of nations, inasmuch as it can learn from the
mistakes of others. That is a very pertinent observation.
The current leadership of that country is in a unique
and historic position. Surely it will be considering the
work that it does now from the perspective of how it
will be seen in about 20 years' time, when people look
back at the country's history and see the direction that
the first leadership gave to it. I am confident that the
vision that must be demonstrated to the country and the
world will, indeed, be there - now and for later
generations.
The same delegation said that we must get the
pace of transition right, and I would like to conclude on
that point. We have to ensure not only that UNMISET
does its work satisfactorily but also that it prepares the
ground for a transition that is seamless and painless
and that propels the nation of Timor-Leste forward
with confidence, socially, politically and economically.
The President (spoke in Chinese): I thank
Mr. Sharma for his clarifications and explanations,
which were very detailed. I think that they will help us
to gain a comprehensive picture of the situation in
Timor-Leste. I would also like to thank him for
providing us with the UNMISET web-site address; I
will certainly log on and visit it after the meeting.
The Security Council has thus concluded the
present stage of its consideration of the item on its
agenda.
The meeting rose at 5 p.m.
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