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Under the existing rules of procedure,though a newcomer to the Council, I have the duty, as well as the honour,.of presiding over the Security Council during the month of February. 1 atll not unaware of· the· difficulties of -my .task ·at ca time when· th... Council is about to' enga~e on importantan( complicated problems. I regret that there was not more time in which I could profit froxp. the instructive example of my distinguished predecessor. However, I am somewhat comforted by the thought that I can count on the indUlgent co-()peration of my c~~~es. . -. ' The function of The President is above all to ensure the. orderliness.and regularity of debates and. to assist·in bringing them' to a successful conclusion. His first duty is that of impartiality. I can assure my colleagues thatI shall endeavour who~eheartedlyto conform to this duty. . 35. C~mtrlgnica.tion concerning the' arrivai'of the'representative of Albania ThepiEsIDENT. (translated from French) : Before we proceed to the adoption of the agenda, I have a communication to make to the CoUncil. Document S/263 entitled "Communications conceI'llingthe arrival in New York of a rt:pre- . sentative of the Peopl~'sRepublicofAlbania to the Security Council",. ~as just been distributed to members of the Council. ..' The document reads as follows: 1. CABLEGRAM FROM THE ACTING SECRETARY- GENERAL TO THE MINISTER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA, DATED 28 JANUARY 1947. [Original text: English] Colonel-General Enver Hoxha, President of the Republic of Albania, Tirana (Albania) 5566 ' I have honour to acknowledge your telegram of 24 Januaryiconcerning appointment Hysni Kapo to represent Albania before.Security Coun- .cil.Thic;reply Was 'brought tC)-attentiQn'of Security Council at its meeting toda~ and, Council 1 See Offit;fal Records pf the Secunt:!Council, Second Veal'. SupplementN'o.2, Annex ,4. ' ,~curite (document S/239?. ~ 34. AUocution clu President Le PRESIDENT: Les regles en vigueur m'imposent ie devoir, en menie temps que l~honneut, bien' que je som nouveau··.venu .,au Conseil de securite, d'en assumer la presidence pendant le mois de fevrier. Je ne saurais me dissimuler les difficultes de ma tache, a un moment ou, precisement, le .Conseil aborde des problemes importants et ardus. . ' Je regrette de n'avoir pu beneficier plus longtemps. de l'enseignement qui se. degageait de l'exemple de mon distin~e predecesseur. Je trouvecependantquelque reconfort dans la pensee que je puis comptersur la bienveillante cooperation demes colle~es. Le'role du President est avant tout de veiller ! l'ordre et a la regclarite des debats,.et de ' contribuera leur fructueux aboutissement. Son premier devoir est l'impartialite. Je puis assurer mes colle~es que j'aurai a creur de m'y conformer. 35. CommulJicQtion au suiet de I'arrivee clu representant de I'Albanie Le PRESIDENT:~Avant de· passer a l'adoption de l'ordre dujour, je voudrais fl!ire une communication au COmleil. Le document 8/263 iutitule "Communica- . tions concemant l'arrivee a New-York d'un re-_ presentailt de la Republique populaire d'Albanie au Conseil de securite"vient d'etredistribue aux membres du Conseil. . Ce document est I:edige dans les termes suivants: 1. ChLOGRAMME DUSECRETJ.nU: GENERAL PA'R INTERIM AU MooSTRE DES AFFAIRES ETRAN- GERES DE LA.REpUBLIQUE POPULAIRE D'AL- BANIE; EN DATE DU 28 JANVIER 1947. [Texte original en anglais] Au colonel-general Enver Hrixha ,President de la Republique d'-Albanie Tiral1a. ,(Albanie) , 5566 . J'ai l'honneur d'accuse~ reception de votre teIegramme du 24 janvier concemant la designation de M. Hysni Kapo comme representant de l'Albanie aupres du Conseil de securite. Votre reponse a ete portee a l'attention du Conseil,de . 1 Voir Proces-verbaux officiels du Conseil de Mcurite, Dewdeme Annee, Supplemep.t No 2, Annexe 4. (Signed) David OWEN" Acting Secretary-General~ 2. CABLEGRAM FROM THE SECRETARy-GENERAL TO THE MINISTER FOR FOP-EIGN AFFAIRS OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF ALBANIA, DA'rED ,31 JANUARY 194:7. . IOriginal text: French] Colonel-General Enver Hoxha, Presioent of the Republic .of Albania, Tirana, Albania With -reference to our telegram 5566 of 29 January concerning arrival bfMiliister Hysni Kapo to represent Albania·before Security CoUncil I have· honour. worm you that United Nations travel agents in Paris and NapleS have been instructed to give him all necessary assist.. ance to enable him to reach New Yorkas soon as possible. I have. honour request you to corifirm 1I our cablegram 5566 and acknowledge receipt of this one. (Signed) Trygve LIE, Secretary-General. 3. CABLEGRAM· FROM THE MINISTER OF FOR- EIGN AFFAIRS OF THE PEOPLE'S REpUBLIC OF ALBANIA TO THE SECRETARy-GENERAL, DATED 31 JANUARY 1947, AND RECEIVED 3FEBRUARY 1947. , [Orig!1!~ltext: French] Trygve tie, 'Secretary-General, . United Nations,' Lake Success, New York I:'l"o.43/30 ' I have the honour to worm you that I only had knowledge ~f your telegram 5566 of 28 January yesterday evening. United States Eml:>assy at Belgrade informed' our legation that it had been authorized to issue a visa to our representative and his suite; they will leave Belgrade immeqiat~lyfor .N~w York via Paris by any available means. It. is impossible to :fix the exact date of theirarrival at New York. Colonel-General Enver HOXHA President of the Republic. . . The PRESIDENT (translated from French): In .accordance with the decision.adopted by the Security Council at its last meeting,! the Secretary-General informed the.Albanian Gov- .ernment that he was placing the Travel Section of the United Nations at its Qisposal, in order to speed the Albanian -:repres~ntative's·arrival at New York. .,. 2. CABLOGRAMME DU SECRETAIRE GENERAL AU MINISTRE DESAFFAIRES ETRANGERES'DE·LA REpUBLIQUEPOPULAIRE D'ALBANIE E~ DATE pu 31 JANVIER 1947. , [Texte originalen jrangais] Au colonel-generalEnver Hoxha President de la RepubIique d'Albanie Tirana (Albanie) _ Reference notre teIegramme 5566 du 28 janvier concemant venue ,M~nistreHysnl Kapo pour representer AIbanie devant Conseil securite. Ai honneur vous informerqu'agents voyage Nations Uni~ a Paris et Naples ont J;'e~u instructions pour lui accorder l'assistance necessaiI'eafin lui permettre d'arriver New-Yorkaussit8": que possible. Ai honneur vous prier vouloir confirmer notre teIegramme5566 et accuser receptiondu present. (Signe) Trygve ~? Secretaire general.. 3. ChLOGRAMME DU MINISTRE DESAFFAIRES :ETRANGERES DE LA REpUBLIQ,UE POPULAIRE n'ALBANIE A11 SECRETAIRE GENERAL PAR ,. :INTERIM, EjS" DATE Du31JANVIER 1947, ET REgU LE 3 FEVRIER 1947? [Texte original en frangais] AM. Trygve Lie Secretaire general des Nations Unies Lake Success, New-York No 43/30 Ai l'honneiIrvouS3nnop.cer que j'ai pris connaissaJlce devotre tcIegramme 5566du 28 janvier seulement hier· soir•. Vambassade americaine a Belgrade a averti notre legation .• ~ , ..1 qu'~ne avait re~u autorisation d'accorder visa, a notre representant et a sa suite; ceux-ci quittent immediatement Belgrade par tout moyendisponible pour· New-York. via Paris. Impos.sible fixer date exact~ de leurarriveea New-York. (Signe) Enver HOXHA, President de la Republique. - .Le PRESIDENT: En efiet, conformement a la decision adoptee par le Conseil de securiteasa derniere·seance1, le.Secretaire.general a worme le Gouvemement albanais qu'il mettait asa dis:- position les services de voyages des NatioI1;S Unies, en vue de faciliter I'arrivee du repres~n­ tant de I'Albanie a New-York. .-'-,. 1 Voir Proces-verbaux officiels du Conseilde s6curitl, Deuxieme Annee, No 8. . n , . Mr. AUSTIN (United States of America) : Before pronouncing. a few brief .remarks) I wish tQ addr~' a "parliamentaty" enquiry to the Chair. Is there ~ymotion pending before the Security Council at this time? - 'I'hePRESm:E~ (tranS~ted. from French) : The SecUrity ,Council has before it the draft resolutions listedm,theagenda;but, if I understa:i:ld the meaning of the United States representative's' question correctly, there is no formal motion before the CounciL . Mr••Ausmf •(UnitJaStates.of America): I wish,to thank the Security Councilf()I' its consideratiQn in postponing to this ,<lay the' discus· sioI! of item, 2 and the remaining items on the agenda. During the time that has elapsed, we h;ilVf; be,en very busy. We have been consulting the President of the United States..and the Secretary of State, as well as various leaders of the lc::gislative branch gf -our Government,' in oraeI' that we might be 1?etter preparetL to appear in this. Security .Council "andpenorm whatever function is entrusted to the delegation of the United States to the United Nations; it is in the' spirit of conference arid consultation,and not in an attempt to try'to•ten-anybody hpw the matter ought to be settled, thatthe United States delegation to the United Nations has endeavoured to C:onsult every member of theSecurity Council in orderto obtainit';views. ' As'. a result' of'..those. conferences, . the dele· gation has from time to timcaltered· the draft of . its-resolution!n'an attempt to take full advantage of thewisdolIl of-the suggestions made by other members of'the Security· Council. It is still the purpose of the Uillted Sta;tes delegation to draw benefit·from the views of its distinguished colleagues"on this Council. Thus, .the .resolution ''Vhich I am goingt{) presentand move on behaH of ~e United States. represents the sttldied and careful consideration of the leading minds of this country and that of the Government of-.:the United~ States of America. Nevertheless) .our d.elegation comes to this great body; asking for the. judgement) opinions and full discussion of our fellow members on this Security.Council. _Before proceeding wiilia statement on behalf of OUT delegation, 1 now presentan~ move the ~, Le PREsD>ENT:L'ordredu jour appelle en premier lieu l'examen de la resolution de I'AssenibIee generale Fur les "principes regissant. la reglementation 'et la. reduction generales des armements". . La pf,U'ole est aurepr~sentant des' Etats-Unis. M. ~USTIN ,(Etats-Vnjg d'AmeI'ique) (tr.aduit de l'anglais) : Monsieur le President, je voudrais, .avant de presenter les breves observations que je me propose'de faire, VOllS poser une question de procedure "parlementaire'~, a savoir: y a,;,t-il une motion ,. actuellement soumiseau_ Conseil de securite~ Le' PRESIDENT: Le Conseil de securitea ete saisi des projets de resolutions enumeres dans l'ordre du jour; mais) si je comprends bien le sens de la question dJI representant des Etats- Ums, le Conseil n'est pas saisi d'une motion a proprement parler. M. AUSTIN (Etats-Unis d'Amerique) (traduit del'anglais): Je remercie le Conseil de securite d'avoir bie'n voulu ajoumer jusC{u'aujourd'hui l'examen au point'2 et des autres points figurant a l'ordre du jour. Au cours de la periode qui vient de s'ecouler," nous avons ettS.tres occupes. Tout d'abord, nous avons consuIte le President d.es Etats-Unfu, le Secret3.ire d'Etat) les divers dirigeants d'u corps legisl;iltif ae notre Gouverne- . mcnt et de nombreuses autres personnalites, pour mieuX pouvoir nous presenter devant le COD-sell de s~curite et remplir toutes les fonctions qui incombent ala delegation des Etats-Unisaupres des Nations Unies; c'est pour conf6rer et nous concerter, avec les membres du .Conseil,et non pour leurdire comment les questions doivent etre regIe~, que la. delegation des-.Etats-Unis &'est efforceedc·, prendre' contact avec tDUS les membres du Conseil de secunte afin clecon- ,naitre'leurs points de vue. Ala suite deces consultations; madeIegation a apporte' quelque~ modificatiops a ~()n projet de resolution, pour essayer de, tirer le:-nieilleur parti possible des sages'suggestions des autJ:'es membres du Conseil de securite; La delegation des Etats- Unis .desire toujours tenir compte des opinions de ses distingnesccillegues au Conseil. La reso- !ution que. je va~maintenant proposer au.nom .,des' Etats.,llnis est'le restiltat d'une etude approfond,ie' et attentive faitt par les. cerveaux les·plus eInine!1ts de ce pays et' du .Gouve1'l1~meIJ.t,des Etats-UniS .d:Amerique. ~eaIlmOins'Ilotre4eIe­ gation se presente devant cette hauteass'embIee pour demander I'avis, les opinions et .la .libre critique de nos collegues du Conseil de securite. re~lation and reduction of armaments, ttResolves: . "1. To establish a· comnnsslon composed of the members of the Security Council, the function of which shaH be to make recommendations to the Security Council regarding the practical measures, incIudingthe provision of effective safeguards for the general regulation and reduction of armaments and armed forces, except as regards those matters which fall within the competence of the Atomic Energy Commission as determined by the General Assembly resolutions of 24 January 1946 and 14 December 19461 ; '(2. To create a committee of the Security Council consisting of a representative of each member of the Council which shall make recommendations·to the Secudty Council regarding the terms of reference of the proposed commission, including its reiations with the Security Council, the Military Staff Commit- ~ee and the Atomic Energy Commissioh~ ..~ "3. To begin, at its next meeting, consideration of the First Report of tke Atomic Energy Commission dated 31 December 1946, with particular reference to the recommendations contained in Part III thereof." That is the whole of the draft resolution respectfully submitted by the United States dele..; gation to the United Nations. , And now I present for the consideration of the Council the following thoughts, which represent the thoroughly considered opinion of the Government of the United States-that is to say, the opinion of the offices of the President, the Secretaries of State, War and Navy and the opinion of the leaders of the legislative branch of our Federal Government. . You will note that this resolution calls upon the Council to begin consideration of the Atomic Energy Commission report at its next meeting. It is common sense for the Security Council to take full advantage of the arduous efforts of the Atomic Energy Commission during the past year in formulating a set of principles upon which a majority of the members of the Security Council have found it possible to a.g'ree. The control of atomic energy is of supreme importance, not only because of its terrible and destructive effects when used as a weapon, but also. because of its tremendous possibilities for the benefit of mankind. In order that this great discovery, may be employed to the full for 1 Sce the Resolutions adopted by the General Assembly dhuring the first part of its first session, page 9, and during t e second p&rt of its first session, pages 65, 66 and 67. m~rement les recommandatioIlB contenues dans la partie III de ce rapport." Tel est le projet de resolution que la delegation des Etats-Unis a l'hoIl..neur de soumettre a l'a_pprobation des Nations Unies. Et maintenant, je voudrais livrer a l'examen du Conseil les considerations suivantes qui representent la doctrine murement refte-chie et posee duGouvernement des Etats-Unis,c'est-a-dire du President, du Secretaire d'Etat, des Ministres de la Guerre et de la Marine et des chefs du corps Iegislatif du Gouvernement federal. Vous observerez que cette resolution invite le Conseil a commencer, lors de sa prochaine seance, ·l'exatnen clu rapport de la Commission de l'energie atomique. Il tombe sous le sens que l~ Conseil de securite doit tirer pleinement parti de tout l'effort ardu soutenu par la Commission de l'ene~gie atomique au cours de l'annee passee et qui a abouti a l'enonciation d'une serie de principes sur lesquels lamajorite des membres du Conseil de securite areussi as'entendre. Le contr8le de l'energie atomique est d'une importance supr~me, non seulement en. raison de ses terribles. effete destructeurs lorsqu'e1le est employee comine une arme, mais aussi du fait de ses immenses possibiIites pour le bien-etre de I'humanite. Pour que cette grande decouvetfe 1 Voir les Resolutions adoptees jJar l'Assemblee generale pendant la premiere partie de sa premiere session, page 9, et pendant la seconde partie de sa premiere sessi~m, pages 65, 66 et 67. . . Mter the First 'World War,.the United States had a bitter experience with unilateraldisarmament. My Government will not repeat tliat error. Twice in the past generation we have'been compelled to take part in great and bloody wars. In . neither case were we equipped at the outset with the armaments,which other peace-loving States IIlight have wished us to possess. Had we pos:' sessedadequate armaments, both wars IIlight have been avoided. . The United States is committed to the principles of mtet!lational collective security set forth in the United Nations Charter. In fulfilment of its obligation under thiS Charter, the United States IIlust, insist that inany plan or programme for the general regulation and reduction of armaments, practical security arrangements must be a' primary consideration. The Memberr of' the United Nations mnst have definite, concrete assurances that effective and enforceable safeguards with regard to security arrangements have been established before committing themselves to final plans for the reduction of armaments and armed forces. Furthermore, the negotiation and conclunion of the peace treaticil with Germany and Japan haye a direct bearing on the' prospects for the reduction' and. regulation of' armaments .and ,'armed forces. ,The organization of the wofId for peace depends upon the solution of the many grave problems involved in theSe peace settlements. The progress of the work in this field . must, therefore, be taken fully, into account as ,we go forward in the United Nations towards the general regulation and reduction of armaments and armed forces. . This does not, mean t.."J.at the United, States is opposed to any concurrent discussion ()fthe problems involved in ,the general regulation and reduction. of armaments. On the contrary, our 'draft resolution provides for the establishment of a comIIlission for this purpose and provides for ,its composition. It seems clear that before such a comIIlission can began any effective work, it is most important to define precisely its teI'Ill3 ~f reference, particularly its, relationship with the Atomic Energy ComIIlission and the Military Staff Committee. The exercise of a little care to solve these problems properly now, IIlight well avoid difficulties later on. We should be particu- 'larly careful to avoid overlapping functions Cela ne veut pas dire que les Etats-Unis soient opposes a discuter simultanement les problemes concernant lareglementation et, la reduction generales des armements. Au contraire, le projet de resolution df'-s Etats-Unis prevoit la creation d'une comIIlission a cette fin, ainsi que la fa~on dont elle sera constituee. n est clair qu'avant que cette comIIlission puisse se mettre effectivement au travail" i1 est de la plus haute importance de definir d'une maniere precise le mandat qui lui sera confie, et notanunent ses rapports avec la ComIIlission de l'energie atoIIlique et le Comite d'etat-major. Avec 'un peu d'attention, mainte- .nant, ces problemes peuvent etre resolus convenablement et nous eviterons probablement des -~ c~reful drafting which compressed the terms of gneuse qui a precise, sous one forme condensee, reference of the Atomic Ep.ergy Corrnnission. In le mandat de la Commission de l'energie atopassing, aIIow me to C;>Q~~rve that those functions mique. Permettez-moi, en passant, de signaler were determined ~y the General Assembly, and que ces fonctions ont ete defipjes par I'Assemblee not by' the Atomic En\lrgy Commission itself. generale et non par la Commission de 1'energie The Atomic Energy Commission's contribution atomique elle-meme. Les recommandatioIis prein the way of recommendations probably expe-: sentees par la Commission de l'energie atomique d~ted the Gener91 Assembly's consideration of OD". probableinent hate.l'ex~en·de cette questl¥s question, butl:he Atomic Energy .Commistion par I~AssembIee generale, mais la Commission did not raise itself by its own bootstraps. The sion die l'energie atomique ne s'est pas formee General Assembly fixed its tenns of reference. par sell propres moyeus; c'est l'Assemblee generale qui en a defini le mandat. Tous les menbres du Conseil connaissent les avantages que cette methode nous a procures. Notre tache actuelle est,a coup sUr, comparable a la precedente. Etant daunt que le Conseil a beaucoup de questions complexes ason ordre du jour; que les questions de principe semblenfavoir ete reglees au Conseil; et qu'un certain nombre de resolutions relatives a la question qui ilOUS occupe ont ete soumises au Consei1, il semble qu'il serait hautementopportun de creer un comite charge de rediger une resolution sur laqueUe les membre$ du Conseil pOUl'raient s'entendre,' . Lorsque la Cor.nnission se mettra au travail1 les problemes qu'elle devra resoudre consisteront esscntiellement a rechercher quanti et commtmt atteindre ses objectifs. Comment? Eh bien, la Commission devra rechercher les garanties qui devront figurer danS' les traites et conventions visant a proteger les Etats respectueux de leurs engagements contre lea risques de violations et de subterfuge. Quand? Eh bien, je pense d'abord a ce que je viens de dire de3 traites de paix, mais je pense aussi au rapport qui existe entre la reglementation des armements et l'obligation de fournir des forces armees comoI'lIlement al'Article 43 de la Charte, et en vue d'une action collective prevue dans tout traite. n faudra tenir compte d'autres .elements pour determiner la date de la mise en reuvre de la reduction des armements, mais Ies elementf! que je viens de signaler sont, a mon avis, les plus importants. C'est seulement en repondant aces d~ questions, comme le demande d'ailleurs clairement la resolution de l'Assemblee generale du 14 decembre, que l'on pourra realiser la reduction et la reglementation des armements de v;pe classique et des forces armees. En resume, mon: Gouvemement croit sincerement que la resolution qu'il propose aujourd'hui . represeilte la premiere mesure la plml efficace vers la reglementation et la red:uction des arme- All the members of the Council will realize the advantages which have accrued from that method. Our present task is certainly a comparable one. Since the Council has a great deal of complicated business on its agenda, since questions of principle have appatently been settled in the Oouncil, and since there are a number of :resolutions befor,e the Council relating to this .very matter: it would appear that it would be a matter of substantial convenience to the Council to set up a committee to draft an a~eed resolution. When the Commission gets to work, the problell1s with which it will have to deal 'will primarily be the problems of how and when. ,.By how, I mean what safeguards must be included in any treaties or conventions to protect complying States against the hazards of violations and evasions. In referring to when, I have in mind, first of all, what I have just said with respect to. the peace treaties. Howeyer, I also have in mind, the relationship between the regulation of armaments and the provision for armed forces under Article 43 of the Charter and-for collective action under any treaty. There are other ele-· mentswhich must be considered in determining the timing of arms reduction, but these are,-in our opinion, the most important ones. It is only by answering the questions of how , and when, as clearly pointed out in the General Assembly's resolution of 14 December, that the. regulation and reduction of conventional armaments and armed forces can be accomplished. To sum up, my Government sincerely believes that the resolution it is now proposing embodies the most effective first steps towards the regulation and reductio.a of armaments and armed forces and the eventual establishment of freedom from the appalling fear of war. ment~ et des forces armees et vers l'organisation d'un monde enfin delivre de la crainte horrible de la guerre. La politique des Etats-Unis d'Amerique a toujours vise, et visera toujours a contribuer, dans toute lalimite du possible, aetablir une securite The policy of the United States of America has been, and will continue to be, to contribute ~ the :,:n0st towards the achievement of There is only one road to disannament: it is the road of genuine collective security and gen~ uine international control of all annaments and of armed forces. Along that road the United States desires to advance as fast and as far as our fellow Members of the United Nations will travel with us.

In the course of the earlier meetings which the Security Council devoted to the question of dis", annament, several proposals were fonnulated. We have just heard the representative of the United States, who submitted a motion for the adoption of a new proposal. One of our'cQIleagues said recentIythatin dealing with this . question, we should endeavour above aUto single out points on which we are agreed. I consider that this is the President's special duty. I should therefore like to try to define some of the points on which members of the Council appear to be agreed and to subn.rlt them Jor your consideration; we could then proceed to·consider the points on which divergent opinions have been expressed. '. . The following seem to me to b~ the main ideas .(and I insist on this word, for I should like to make a distinction between ideas and their expression) ,on which there is either explicit or, implicit agreement at this stage in the discussion. 1. I think that we are now agreed in decid~ ing to establish a commission. 2. In the second place, I believe that we are agreed to give'this commission the function of making proposals or recommendations to the Security Council regarding the practical mea~ ures to be taken for the general regulation and reduction of armaments and anned forces, 3$ also for the establishment of international control to ensure this reduction of annaments and anned forces, in accordance with the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 December 1946. I think ~ have used, or very closely followed, the terms Le PRESIDENT: Au cours des seances ante~ rieures que le Conseil de securitea consacrees a la question du desarmement, plusieurs proposi:. tions ont ete fonnulees. Nous venons d'entendre le representant des Etats-Unis presenter une motion tendant aI'adoption d'une nouvelle pro~ position. L'u.Tl de nos collegues a dit recemment que, dans la question qui nous occupe, nous devions principalement nous preoccuper de de~ gager les points sur Jesquels nous sommes d'ac~ cord. Je crois que c'est le devoir tout particulier duPresident; je voudraisdonc essayer de definir quelques points sur lesquels les membres du Conseil semblentetre d'accord et les soumettre a votre examen; nous pourriom ensuite passer a I'etude des points sur lesquels des opinions divergentes ont eteexprimees~. Voici quelles me paraissent etre les idees prin~ cipales (et j'insiste sur ce mot, car je distingue l'idee de son expression) sur lesquelles, a ce stade de la discussion, il y a accord, soit explicite, soit implicite: , 1. n me semble y avoir, a present, accord pour decider de creer une commission. 2. n me semble y aV':lir, en secondlieu,accord pour confier a cette commission la mission de faire au Conseilde securite des propositions ou recommandations relatives aux mesures pra~ tiques a prendre en vue de la reglementation et de la reduction generales des armements et des forces armees, ainsi que de I'etablissement d'un controle international destine a assurer cette reduction des annementset des forces armees, conformement a la resolution de l'AssembIee generale du 14 decembre 1946. Je crois avoir, 1 Resolution de l'Assemblee generale en date du 14.de;. cembre 1946 sur lea "pr.ncipesregissant la reglementation et la reduction generales des armements". Proces~verbaux officielsdu Conseil de securite. Deuxieme Annee, Supplement No· 2, Annexe 5.. . 4. In approving the resolution of the General Assembly of 14 December, the Security Council undertook, in accordance with paragraph 4 of the resolution, to expedite cQnsideration of the reports of the Atomic Energy Commission. The Fmt Report of the Atomic Energy Commission has been· on the Security· Council agenda since the beginning of January. To the best of my knowledge, there has been no objection to its being conSidered as soon as a decision has been taken to establish the new commission, which I shall call the disannament commission. _Before I proceed to _enumerate_the points on which divergentopinions have been expressed, I shall once again go over the points I have mentioned, one by one, to ascertain to What extent they meet with agreement amongst members of the Council. . Ido not think that the first point raises any' difficulti~. I believe that the Council· agrees to establish. a commission. ,'.The second point, which relates to the functions of this commission,·is closely bound up with the first. The Council' seems to agree to give the commission the task of making.proposals or recommendations to the Security Council regarding the practical measures to be taken for the general iiegulation and reduction of armaments .and ~l'l:J:!.ed _forces,- a.&- -alsofor the. establishment of international·control to ensure this reduction of a~aments arreianned forces, in conformity with t~e resolution of the GeneraJ Assembly of 14 December 1946. ' - You will understand that I reserVe the question,of. the C0mpetence of the Atomic.- Energy 90iri,!pission; which is dealt with in theJollowing point. - :. I thinkthat the third point, which I have already put before you, may be formulated in this:way: does the Council agree that, by approv~, ing the resolution of the General Assembly of 11,:, DeGember and, consequently, .paragraph 8 of ~hat -resolution, it understands that th~ fun-ctions of-th.e new disarmament commission cannot. ex-' ~enQ,~oi11atters -within $e _compete~ce,o(the' Atomic Energy Commission without overlapping the,functions of the'latter? \ .;: " J'en arrive au trbisiemepoint, dont j'ai (Jeja donne connaissance et que jecrois pouvoir formuler, a peu pres,. de la maniere suivante: Le ConseH est-il d'accordpourestimer qu'en~p~ prouvant la re,solution de l'Assemblee generaIcd1.l J.4 _deGenillie. et, par consequent, son paragr~phe8,:ilehtend que lamissioh de la nouvelle commissi(m dudesarmement ne sauraits'etendre iiux mati~resfafuan.t·parrle des attributions·de la. I now wish to make a few remarks on the new draft resolution submitted by Senator Austin. The first part of the first paragraph of this draft reads: "To establish a commission composed of the members of' the Security Council, the function of,which shall be to make recommendations to the Security Council regarding the practical measures, including the provision of effective safeguards, for the general regula- ,tion and reduction of armaments and armed forces . . ." This only repeats a proposal which I made on 27 Dec.ember 19461 for the creation of a commission, the function of which should be to prepare proposals for submission to the Security Council, regarding the measures for implementing, as soon as possible, the General Assembly resolution of 14 December 1946. This prop6sal, as is well known, was supported by an overwhelming majority in the Security Council and was reflected in .other draft resolutions submitted to the Council. Therefore this part of the United States resolution repeats what is already contained in other proposals, and it ,adds, nothing new. I fail to see why we need a repetition of'the proposal already submitted to the Security CQuncil. If the representative of the United States agrees to the proposal to establish a commission composed of representatives of all the States which have a seat on th~' Security Council, would it not, be better if he frankly stated, that he agrees to this proposal and supports it? j\s regards that partof the first paragraph of the United States dn,l.ft, containing inst~ctions whereby this, commis.sio.n shall., not' deal with m.atters falling withjn -the competence of the Je passe maintenant a la partie du premier paragraphe du projet americain quiprevoit que cette" commission p.'aura pas, a connaitre des questions relevanfde'la competence de la .Com.,. As is well Jmown, the SecuritY C0UD:cil has approved this ,resolution of the General ,Assem., bly.We may well ask, therefore, what need there is for a special decision on a questionori which we have already, reached agreement, and Oll whiCh an appropriate'decision' has already, been taken. Consequently, this part,also of the first paragraph of the'United States resolution adds nothing substantially new.';1 The second paragraph of the United ,States draft resolution provides for the creation, in addition to thecomniissionreferred to in paragraph 1, of a special committee to determine the programm:e of work of the: coi:nmission, and also the 'relations 'between the commission'-a.nd the ',Security CQllncil, "between the,coinritission and the Military StaffC6riunittee and between the commission and the Atomic Energy'Commis.. sian. I am conviIiced that there'is no' necessitY for the adoption of the proposal to,create a special conunittee for these purposes. " ' The General Assembly resolution constitutes thcprogranime of 'the 'coIn111ission, for the creation 'of whlcli IsubIID.tted' a proposal on 27 December 1946 which was sripported by the overwheimingmajority of the other r~presenta.: tives on the'CoUncil. The resolution lays down definite, even though general ta.skS' in the' field of the regwation and reduction'ofarniaments and armed forces. These tasks must form the basis of the work of the commission. Wor-king on the basis of this programme, as la~d down and affinned by the General Assembly; the, commission sJiould ptep~re' concrete, pio;.; posals. for submission to theSecurityCounci1~ which would'ehable :the'decision 'of' the General Assembly regarding the regulation'and tedtlctioJ;i of 'armaments and, anned'foIces,fobeirnplemerited- Within the shorteSt ,p'ossible time; It:is, for the proposed 'cornmiSsiQn to detemiine what specmc"qriestionS it should deal with ill the course' of -its work arid,what' concrete, proposals it should prepare for subriliSsion to the SecuritY Council. There is no necessity to fonn a special comriIittee' to 'aetermine 'these speCific"questionS'; I consider the proposal 'to fornia special-corn'" mittee unacceptable for another reason. The Greation of sU(~ha conunitt.ee would lead ~t(')a delay ill-the ~~iderati';n:~nd prep~~tton,- pf, proposals regarding' practical,measures: for' the Le programme de la commission qlle j'avais propose de creel''le 27_decembre dernier, proposition soutenue par la grande majorite'des membres du Conseil, est tout trace dans la resolution de I'Assemblee generale. Tout entraitant dUprobleme danS seslignes generales, la resolution de I'Assemblee definit neanmoins avecprecision les t~<;hes quinous incombent dans le domaine de la reglementation et de la reduction des armements et des forces armees., Les termes de la resolution doivent done constituer hi base,des travaux de la commission.' " En ,appliquant -et en developpant'ce programme,e1:abli •et ratifie par l'Asseniblee gene~ tale, la commission doit soumettre au Coi:J.seil de securite -des :propositions' concretes eri. vue de h~ter la mise en pratique de la resolution de I'AssembIee generale sur la reglementation, et la redQ.ction des armemen1$ et d(:8,forces armees. n appattient,a, la commission elle-meme de delimi- . ter aveC exactitudeles questions qu'elle aura a exatnirrer au cours de ses trava~ et de definirla nature des propositionsconl.cetes qu'elle devra soiImettre au,Conseil de securite. n, n'est pas besoin de creer·un comite special 'pour mener it. Jien l'execution de cette t~che. ' J'estime qu'ilexiste entoreune autre raison qui rend inacceptable la proposition de creer,Ull comite: la creation de ce comite retarderaitl'exa- J;I1en et I'elabora~on des, propositions relatives aux' niesurespratiques ,necessairespour ~ettre en.application la resolution de l'AssembIee 'gene- Se~urity Council are fairly well defined. The coinmisSion' envisaged by the Soviet proposals should be a su!Jsidiaryorgan of' the SecliritY Council.: Is it·not clear' what the relations between the Security 'Council and its, 'subsidiary organ should be? . , .~Then'why set,up a special organto study w~at is quite clear? The Security Council c~!1' ~t any time give any tasks or instructions· to such a .commission; The commission must' at ,all times accept'and a,ct·,upon any tasks or instructions fiom. the Council regarding the nature of its work and '.the questions With which' it has to deal. The same consideration applies to the rela- . tJons hetweenthis conu:iliSs~on a~d the Military Staff Committee.' Both organs must'work under the: .gufdart~e· of' the Sec~ty Council." The Security COUI~C~ is f~yeJltitledto give 3:ny inStructions it .considers necessary both to the Military .Staff 'Committee and'to ,the COl11~ mission. What is there obscure in 'the relations betWeen .the commission and the Military'-5taff Cornrillttee? '. , , . 'aaye we really encountereq. any' difficuiti~s in ilie relationS betWeen, for ins~ance, the Military, N'est-il pas clair qu'en creant un organe special appele a fonctionner paralleIement a la commission, :nous ne ferions que retarder I'ex:amen des questions que pose la resolution de l'AssembIee generale en date du '14 decembre?Le Conseil de seeurite doit s'efforcer de hater, et nOll pas de retarder, l'ex:ameil de ces questions. n me semble,' ainsi que je.I'ai deja dit, que ee point de vue est conforine a I'opinion de la grande majorite des membres du Conseil de securite. n existe une autre raison encore qui';rend inacceptable la creation d'un cornite special. D'apres1e'projet des Etats-Unis, ce comite aurait en partictilier pour tache de determiner la nature des relations de la commission que le Conseilde securite se propose de creer avec le Conseil de securite, avec le Comite d'etat-major 'et avec la Commission de l'energie atomique. 11 me semble que nous devons simplifier et clarifier ces pro'- blemes complexes et obscurs, et non pas les embrouiller davantage. ' La nature des relations qui doivent exister entre la commission et le Conseil de securite est claire, me semble-t-il. La commission que nous avons propose de creer doit ette un organe auxiliaire du Conseil de securite. n n'est vraiment pas difficile' de' detenniner la nature des relations qui doivent 'exister entre le Conseil de securite etson organe auxiliaire~ Mais aIors, polirquoi creer un comitespedaI charge d'etudier une question aussi simple? II est clair que le Conseil de seeurite peut a tout moment, donner n'importe quel ordre ou li'importe quelle' instruction' a cette commission. La com'; mission doit accepter a tout moment toutes les instructions'et tous les ordres du Conseil de seeurite relatifs a la nature de ses travaux et ani questions dont elle aura a s'occuper. lIen va de. meme des relations de cette comniission avee le Comite d'etat-major: LeS deux organes aoiverit travamer sous la direction dti Conseil de securite.IAe Conseil de securite a le pouvoir de dOID1er au Comite d'etat-major, aussi bien qu'a la commission, toutesles instructions qui lui semblentnecessaires. Qu'y a-t-il done d'obscur .danS les relations entre' IacomriJission et leComite d'etat-major? AVClns-nous eu des' diffic~~es pour de~.l~ na:ture des reIatioris,qui' doivent exister 'entre le, CoID:ited'etat-niajoret ~e Comite d'experts, Par'exemple? '. On saitque'" ce~ Germet' est, Jtii ".As regardS the relations between the commission and the Atomic Energy Commission envisaged in the Soviet proposals, I think that this question is already settled by the fact that the tasks· of the Atomic Energy Commission are defined both in the resolution of the General ~embly of 24 January 1940 and in its resolution of 14 December 1946. I repeat that I have not heard of any proposals calling for the reconsideration or abrogation of these decisions of the General: Assembly with regard to the.Atomic Energy Commission. With reference to paragraph 3 of the United' States draft resolution, there is, in my opinion, no necessity for it, for the simple reason that the Security Cbuncil has already adopted its agenda. Item 4 of the agenda is the consideration of the report of' the Atomic Energy Commission. The Security Council has adopted this agenda and the order in which questions should be considered. Why should we again pass a resolution on the'necessitY ofstudying the report of the Atonnc Energy Coinmission, when such a resolution has already been passed by the adoption of the agenda? Surely this is not essential to make the resolution more convincing? I do not think resolutions are made any weightier by being passed tWice; rather the contrary. Therefore, as regards paragraph 3, I do not Ainsi done, pour ce qui est du panigraphe 3, see why we have to 'pass a special. resolution on je ne vois pas deraison de prendre une decision a question on which agteement has already been speciale sur une question que nous avons deja reached. . ttanchee cl'un commun accord. In his speech, Mr. Austin again touched on a Dans sa declaration, M. Austin 'a de nouveau number of general questions. I do not intend to pade d'uncertain nombre de questions generales. dwell on $ill the questions referred to in Mr. Je n'ai pas l'intention de m'arreter sur touies Austin's speech. I do not intend to do this, chiefly ces questions, d'autant qu'il s'agit de choses fort because they are old questions on which we have anciennes et qui ont fait l'objet de plusieurs already heard repeated statements by the 'tepredeclarations de· la part des representants des sentatives oIthe United States of America both Etats-Unis d'.Amerique, aussi bjen au Conseil de in.the General Assembly and here in the Security securite qu'a I'Ass~mbIee gener~e. Les., autres Council. The delegation of the USSR, as wen delegations, y compris la delegation de I'URSS, as oth~r delega..tions, has made frequent replies. y ont repondu a plusieurs reprises. .. .1 only want to touch upon one question. J .;ais m'arreter a une seule de cesquestions. There is one idea which is repeated very Une idee qui revient tres souvent dans les dec1a- ~requently in the speeches made by the reprerations des representants des Etats-Unis, est celle seuta-tives of the United States-namely, that the qui affirme que Iew: pays ne peut consentir au' United States of America cannot proceed to disdesarmement ou a la reduction des armements armament or to'the reduction of armaments and et des forces armees, tant qu'iI n'a pas ~te cree armed fOfcesuntil a "system of security" with. un "systeme de securite" avec toutes lesgaranties all'necessary safeguards has been created. Thus necessaires.·-Ainsi donc, on' oppose la reduction the regulation and reduction of armaments and des armements et des forces armees a la creation a~ed forces is set in opposition to th~ creation ; d'un "systeme 4e .securite" et de garanties capa- ~f a· "Syst~in of security" and safeguards emur- : bles d'assurerla·rriise en pratique 4e la resolution mg the· implementation of the regulation and sur la reglementation et la reduction des-arme- ~duction of armaments and armed forces. ments et des forces armees. Quant aux relations qui. doivent exister entre . la commission dont la deIegati0n sovietique a propose la creation, d'une part, et la Commis-:- sion de l'energie atomique, d'autre part, cette question me semble resolue par le simple fait . que les taches de la Commission de l'energie atomique ant ete definies dans la resolution de l'AssembIeegeneraIe en date du 24 janvier 1946, aussi bien que dans la resolution du 14 decembre dernier. Je n'ai pas connaissance, je le repete, de propositions qui aient ete faites ,en. vue de modifier ou d'abroger les decisions. de l'AssembIee generale relatives a la Commission de controle c'.erenergie atomique. Quant au paragraphe 3 duprojet de resolution americain, je l'estime inutile, pour la simple raison que le Conseilde securite a deja adopte 1'0rdre du jour. L'examen du rapport de la Commission de l'energie atomique y figure au point 4~ Le Comeil a adopte cet ordre du jour,ainsi que- 1'0rdre' dans lequel seront examinees les differentes questions. A qUQi bondedder de nouveau d'examiner le rapport de la Commission de l'energie atomique, puisque, en adoptant l'ordre du jour, nous avons deja prisunedecision dans' ce sens? Serait:'ce pour donner plus de poids a cette decision? Je ne crois pas qu'enprenant deux fois la rileme decision, on lui confere plus d'autorite. C'est plutot le contraire. m~de by the representative of this or that coun-:- les membres du' Conseil veulent teinoigner Jeur try .in the'Security Council about -desiring to I desir' de donner effet a cette·resolution. Les implement this resolution, but by the actionS of peuples jkgeront d'apres les' actes; ils jugeront these countries, how far these actions are in fact 'clans·quelle .mesure les actesde Ces pays contridireCted towards the implementation ofthe decibuent a]amise en pratique de la: resolution de sion of the General Assembly, which may, if it l'Assemblee; resolution qui, si elle.est app~quee is implemented as itshould be, play a great part conuneilcoilvient, pourra jouer .un grand role in the building up of durable peace and internadans l'etablissement d'une pabc dlU'able et de la tional security. securite internationale. '

(transltiled from French):' Le PRESIDll:NT:Etant donne queplusieul'S As I still have several_speakers on my list, i proorateurs restentinscrits, je 'proIJOse de suspendre ,pose to adjourn the meeting until 3 o'clock this la seance jusqu'a 15 heures. afternoon. The meeting rose at 1.3(Jp.m. .. NINETY-NINTH MEETING Held at Lake Success, New Yor1c, on Tuesday; 4 February'1947; at 3 p.m; ' . ' . President: Mt.M. F. VAN LANGENHOVE (Belgium). . , Presen"t: The representatives of the fo1l9':Ving countries: .Australia, .Belgium, Brazil, China, Colombia,. France, Poland, Syria, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, United Kingdom, United States of America. 38. Continuation of the discussion' on the seneral .regulation and reduction' of armaments' , The PRESIDENT ·(translated from French): The meeting is called to order. Icall:,on the representative of Australia. La seance est levee a13 h. 30~ QUATRE-VINGT:"DIX-NEUVIEME SEANCE, _ Tenu~ aLake Succe,fs, New-York; , le mardi 4 fevrier 19~7, a15·hfJure.s. . Prlsident: M. M. F. VAN UNGENHOVE .; (Belgique). Presents: Les representa,nts des pays ~uivants: AllStra}ie, Belgique, Bresil" ChiIJ,~, Cololllhie, Franc:;e, Pologne~ Syrie, Union desRepubliques soci~tessovi~tiques, Royaume-Uni, Etats~Unis d'Amerique. . ,. , . 38.' Suite de la discussion 5ur:la reglementationetla r~du~ion gen~rale!r'des armements . Le PRESIDENT: 'Lase~nce est puverte. La; parole est au representant de l'Australie..